Brown kid from Blackford
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Schedule he plays is awful which makes the numbers a little inflated but he can shoot it.
I dont know anything about the kids talent other than hes a great shooter. I would like to see Indiana offer a scholarship to him. Worst case hes a Matt Roth type player, best case hes a taller version of Jordy Hulls. We need shooting. He may go to a midmajor and then just light Indiana up for 30 with our packline D.
Or, he could go to Notre Dame or Purdue. Still light us up for 30 with our packline D stopping everyone else. IU goes on to hang our 6th NCAAT Championship banner.
No, worst case is that he's Priller 2.0 and takes up a scholarship for 4 years while never seeing meaningful game time. I don't think he gets a scholarship offer from IU. Or do you think he's somehow gone under the radar of the coaching staffs for not just IU but also Purdue, Notre Dame, Butler, and every other major university in the surrounding states? I'd like him at IU but as a walk-on.
I hope you are right especially about the 6th banner. Just tired of us missing the tournament while these types of kids kill us when we play. If we have room, i would like to see them offer to him. Preferred walkon or scholarship, im sure he would take the free ride.
He and Jalen Blackmon have the chance to catch Damon Bailey's scoring record. I don't recall either being injured and missing a lot of games. Both are crazy scorers.
Priller, ouch. Id say he would have a larger impact then him or Gelon for sure. I would at least like to see how he devlops this year and next before we completely write him off. Im not saying he would be a superstar but could develop into a nice player like Kline did at Purdue.
The only team they have played that I know anything about is Southridge. Southridge is not a strong team this year. He will need to face D1 players in AAU to show he can do more than shoot the ball. Maybe he can defend but nobody will know with the schedule he will play.
Good lord. Just because he can shoot doesn’t make him a high major player. Remember Brody Boyd? Kid could score at half court but didn’t do much at Iowa. Don’t even get me started on comparing him to Bailey.
Brown can flat shoot the ball. If we’re only talking a game of H-O-R-S-E, I want him on my team.
But the schedule Blackford plays, to be honest, is incredibly weak. Against the really good teams he faced last year ( Northwestern, Delta) he was good but not great. Still questions about how well he can get his shot off against D1 level competition, as well as can he guard at that level.
Probably ends up in the MAC, although I’d be ok with giving him a preferred walk-on spot with an opportunity to earn a scholarship, if circumstances allow it. At this point, too many other priorities in-state in the 2021 class.
But the schedule Blackford plays, to be honest, is incredibly weak. Against the really good teams he faced last year ( Northwestern, Delta) he was good but not great. Still questions about how well he can get his shot off against D1 level competition, as well as can he guard at that level.
Probably ends up in the MAC, although I’d be ok with giving him a preferred walk-on spot with an opportunity to earn a scholarship, if circumstances allow it. At this point, too many other priorities in-state in the 2021 class.
I think Brown played on one of the indy elite aau teams and was overwhelmed.
He sat out a year and transferred to a tiny school with awful competition so he could put up numbers.
Don't blame him but, there's a reason a kid putting up those kind of numbers are only getting low major looks.
He sat out a year and transferred to a tiny school with awful competition so he could put up numbers.
Don't blame him but, there's a reason a kid putting up those kind of numbers are only getting low major looks.
If we can ever become a good screening team on offense and better at help defense, there’s no reason a kid like this could help us at improving our most glaring weakness: shooting the damn ball! You watch him go to another school and light it up.
Exactly, we need scoring, even if it gives up D. We play bad zone now basically, which I hate, but it is what it is until contract time, and I don't think he'll find enough success to be renewed. Look at Holtmann, killing it all, that's what we should have bought. And buying is the right term
Lol. That’s exactly what Crean did. Worked out great didn’t it? We’ve discussed Holtman until we are blue in the face. He hardly inherited a bad team.
This isn’t a motion league anymore. Not enough time in the shot clock. This is why high ball screens and pick and roll is the go too.
I saw him the other night..He's a nice player.
But a MAC or MVC gaurd..He sees the floor well .and plays hard D..But he struggled the night I saw him shooting..13 - 29 overall...Like 1-12 from the three ball.
Length and strength of the Big Ten team's athletes would only exasperate that..
But a MAC or MVC gaurd..He sees the floor well .and plays hard D..But he struggled the night I saw him shooting..13 - 29 overall...Like 1-12 from the three ball.
Length and strength of the Big Ten team's athletes would only exasperate that..
I have not seen him play so I don't know anything about IU recruiting him. I do think that Archie came to build defense first and the only true guards he recruited so far are Rob and Armaan who both seem to be able defenders. I expect to see Jerome and possibly Damezi more at the wing positions as they can defend better.
Deron will get more time when teams are not playing four guards against us. Until then he will have to pass Joey in practice. Not sure why Race has seen less time other than Justin defends quickness better. Still Race has been a rebounding machine for the minutes he plays.
All this to say I think players have to defend to come to IU and play meaningful minutes. Can Brown guard Big Ten guards?
Deron will get more time when teams are not playing four guards against us. Until then he will have to pass Joey in practice. Not sure why Race has seen less time other than Justin defends quickness better. Still Race has been a rebounding machine for the minutes he plays.
All this to say I think players have to defend to come to IU and play meaningful minutes. Can Brown guard Big Ten guards?
Brown would struggle more than Jordy did. He would have to shoot 45% to overcome that. He’s also not physical enough to take contact from the 200ib guards in power 5. (I’m being conservative too)
I know Lad
I know Ladner is much quicker but your argument then should hold for him too. But I’m sure with the right weight training both he and Brown will be a lot bigger and stronger when they play in college. I remember when Zeek T first came to IU. He couldn’t have been much more than 170 lbs., if that.
We've extended defense quite a bit this year starting in the 2nd game and played straight man as much as packing it in. That's probably why those wing driving lanes are there. I get that the announcers haven't told you that yet but maybe you should watch a game and pay attention instead of whining about, well, everything and see things for yourself. Oh yea, you can't because you don't know anything except whining.
What a silly and foolish fan you are..
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And I hate it. AAU type dribble drive hand off offense is ugly basketball. Actually I wish there was a longer shot clock, or no shot clock at all. Takes part of the the strategy out of the end of game.
Lander and zeek had/have elite speed. Lander is much more athletic than Brown. He also can defend in the NCAA elite level. Brown will be an anomaly. Wish the best for him but lander and zeek he is not.
We've been running blocker mover and fwiw dribble drive hand off and high PnR isn't because of AAU, it's because of NBA and analytics. ie the most efficient play in basketball. Blame Chuck Daly, and his there's 6 ways to guard a high PnR and none of them work, seminars.
You're 30 years behind .. AAU strategy doesn't drive NCAA strategy, NBA strategy does. *eyeroll*
And, how can it remove strategy? It can't .. it can change strategy and make different things important but can't remove it.
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The NBA has ran that offense for years. There is a video somewhere that Bird was breaking down the screen and roll options. That was from the mid 80s. It’s fast and efficient offense.(if ran right) Butler used it and got to two finals with it.
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It removes strategy because you can not run a 4 corners or a motion offense until you get a layup when the defense makes a mistake. If you cant run an offense that takes over 45 seconds this completely changes the game. I prefer Indiana HS Basketball rules with no shot clock.
Speeds up for what?
The non-basketball fan to see more poor shot selection shots.
No thanks.
I also enjoy the tempo control and the wearing down of the defense until you get a lay up, dunk, or high percentage shot.
Forced drives with turnovers or low % shots or a mind numbing amount of forced 3s is just ugly offense to watch.
You tell me? Why shorten the clock? It gives more drama. Most people hate the slow methodical game. They like lots of possessions. The short shot clock does that. So you like Wisconsin? You like Virginia? Most don’t.
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