A guy on another site who coaches high school basketball in the state said the reason for Brooks holding off committing is there is a lot of negative recruiting going on. He also indicated that most of it surrounds the family not liking how the fans are calling for Archie head already and does not want any of the coaches not being there when Brooks is there. I know some of you won't believe this but I firmly believes that the fans anger towards coaching can have an negative effect on recruiting.
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Yes, you always have, which explains your blind allegiance to CTC for so long.
IU fans CARE about bball and don't like to see a subpar product on the floor, as we have since January. I'm fully confident they'd have LOVED the fanbase and support if they'd attended the Marquette or Lville games. I'll take high expectations and engaged and caring fans any day over 2/3's empty arenas and fans that don't care or don't show if their team starts losing.
Nothing wrong in supporting your team and being upset with their play. when you are calling for the coaches head and how you talk about the players personally then that is where the problems start.
Whatever Scott. Quit blaming the fans. He's lost 9/10 games while making $3.5 million. Quit being such a puss.
Archie will have the time to develop his recruits. Parents will need to understand that IU has a passionate fanbase that is impatient during a coaching transition, and want results as soon as possible, which is not always realistic depending on the balance and construction of the roster left behind by the previous coach. The parents also know how passionate IU fans are about their love and support for Archie's inside-out in-state recruiting strategy and their love for Indiana HS players, which extends to passionately wanting the top Indiana HS talents to be Hoosiers such as TJD, Franklin, and Brooks. And extending to legacy family recruits such as Trendon Watford and his family who attended IU ganes for four years supporting his older brother Christian. Brooks and Watford need to know that Archie will be there for them and that IU fans want, and expect high level success, just like they do.
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I am not the one that is saying this but it is coming from people who are close to Brooks. I guess if you don't missing on a top in state player because of how some idiot fans can't be rational.
2 decades of mediocre play isn't going to spawn much praise.
I understand your point, but I also understand the frustration.
2 more years, that's how long I plan to wait.
After that, well, I never watched a single game during the Sampson era, I reckon I can live without it.
I understand your point, but I also understand the frustration.
2 more years, that's how long I plan to wait.
After that, well, I never watched a single game during the Sampson era, I reckon I can live without it.
We held OSU to 55 and lost. We have a problem but it isn't the coach. Patience will be needed. CAM is a good coach.
Go Hoosiers!
Go Hoosiers!
Players and their families don't need to read our posts to feel and hear people suggest IU needs to make a change. Twitter is fuel for negative recruiting and can start with any negative post from any idiot.
I think Brooks is waiting to see how the season finishes and what college offers the best opportunity. I would not blame him for going somewhere else. I do hope we use that open spot for a big body that can help us immediately.
A guy on another site who coaches a boys club team (They won the league last week in a tight one, 6 to 4) said Brooks hasn’t committed because they don’t want to play for a coach who loses 9 of 10
games and can’t make the NCAA tourney.
BS, just $%^&ing BS, if anything his family would probably care more to know that his time here won't be wasted and fans do care about winning. Give this crap line up.
We'll, I've done neither. I guess the question is what qualifies to you as talking about players personally. I've never called for CAM's head, although this losing streak has made me question his coaching and leadership. With players I've definitely been critical of J Smith and D Greens play on the court... and maybe D Green's commitment off it, if the reason for the suspension is to be believed. None of that are what I would call talking about them personally.
If you expose any fanbase to this losing streak and the stretch of poor seaons we've had, 90% are going to tune out and not show up. The other 10%, are probably from programs that truly care, and 0 are going to be "happy" and not complaining. I think the support the fans continue to show is pretty incredible and at this point, is about the only thing leaving me hope things can still be turned around. I'll take that 7 days of the week and twice on Sunday, over not caring or showing up. When Matt Painter was hired at PU they were getting about 7K fans or fewer in the stands and didn't even have a midnight madness event, while IU's support has never fallen to that level, despite our futility. Again, I'll take it.
Why don't you spell out all your rules for posting on your new IU website: IUScott's Rosy Hoosier Forum? I'm sure it will be wildly popular and help get all kinds of 5* players to Btown, no matter what our record is.
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Doubling down … Travon Duval's or Wendell Carter's bitching, which is probably actually legit, but oh, how it has hurt Duke's fortunes this year. I don't want anybody who or their family is softminded enough that my comments on a f'n IU message board is going to sway their decision on where they choose to get their education, much less play basketball..
Parents also have to know that rival trolls are also masquerading as IU fans saying bad things about players and coaches just to stir the pot. Dont read any more into the twitter and blog posts. This team has defeated Marquette, Louisville, and Michigsn State. It's not the coaches. Next season will be one step closer to a team of all-Archie recruits.
This I can agree with, though I'm not really in love with Archie right now, he is trying and that counts a lot. I really think there needs to be some Creaning … as the f'n a-hole, orange scumbag, just recently admitted in his own very public words.
Oh poor little victor bear the snowflake can't handle the pains of a team going through some growing pains. Get a pair buddy. We do not need overly emotional fans like you. Archie has had 1 recruiting class so far. Go back to your moms basement and find a new hobby that you are emotionally capable of handling.
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Stupid, then I'm done for the day. Social Media, really? Does not contact with coaches that are recruiting you actively count more? I think we have way more recruits than we need swayed by Social Media, and if I were in Arch's place, I wouldn't engage in it and just go watch who I wanted on my team.
Couple of things.....
Archie isn't getting fired.
And I bet that poster isn't really close to the family and doesn't know how the family is feeling one way or the other.
For a team that has the dubious shot at going 2 for 2019 I think there's still a lot of support. There's disenchantment and disappointment and the feeling this has now become a wasted year. Yet, except for a few die-hard boneheads, I'd say the vast majority of IU fans and alumni believe Archie Miller will still pull this together. The chemistry issues need to be resolved and I'm positive that will all occur as this season concludes. It will be addition by subtraction and those who are added will be a significant chemical addition. This is the time for Miller to be selling the vision to the right people, those who will be key components of the resurgence.
If IU fans having high expectations bothers him, then he can just go somewhere else. I also find it laughable that he would commit to North Carolina, Michigan State, or Kentucky just because of the IU fans being too "mean". If one of those schools missed the tournament for 3 straight years like we are about to, their fans would be every bit as pissed. Kentucky fans would riot in the streets and North Carolina fans would just stop showing up.
IU fans have a right to be pissed about the way this team is playing right now. Bottom line, if he commits somewhere else it won't be the fans fault. Maybe he just doesn't want to play in an offense that scores in the 50s every home game.
We will Rutgers next year, time to start thinking forward. Arch may survive, but the commits need to continue, that's the only hope till all the Crean is gone.
Is TheHoosier.com, Peegs or Inside the Hall doing this - like they did at KSR:
No?
Think our fan base has no worries regarding how bad they REALLY are . . .
So you're saying Archie's recruiting druggies now? OK, I want him out!
Do I need to add DWS? Probably.
Is TheHoosier.com, Peegs or Inside the Hall doing this - like they did at KSR:
No?
Want to know the state of our program? I am a lifelong fan and have not paid to watch for 3 years because of the horrid product. I have no idea who this guy is, new Hightower, Valentine?
Think our fan base has no worries regarding how bad they REALLY are . . .
Yeah everybody. Temper your behavior because Scott heard an internet rumor that reinforces his hair brain theory.
Not the first time you didn't care about ass play.
never said it was only this board or any other message board but all of social media where it could hurt with recruiting.
It wasn't about being to mean but they are bothered by the fact that the fans want Archie gone and are afraid that there might be a coaching change
Archie will get 4 years, most of us know that. If he doesn't get it going by then he will be fired, just like he would at any other school with high expectations.
Honestly, we need a bit of Scott Skiles
As much as I think this debacle of a season is Archie's fault, I don't see him being replaced during the 1 or 2 years that Brooks would bere...
I’m sure his main concern is the complete dumpster fire going on on the court. I’d imagine that is a little more important to him than what the fans are saying.
This is just BS propaganda to try to get the cult back in line.
Here is the MAJOR problem with this theory.
This wasn't going on early in the season.........and yet, he still changed his mind about committing to IU.
I feel this is total BS, but if true, so what.
This wasn't going on early in the season.........and yet, he still changed his mind about committing to IU.
I feel this is total BS, but if true, so what.
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