I worked with a guy that had Vance like qualities. He was interested in a woman that was a friend of mine. I asked what she thought of him, her response fits Vance. "He comes off like he might ask if you'd like to go for a ride in the trunk of his car".Vance is the kid who stared at all the girls creepily and even though you never caught him, you suspected he tortured animals. Walz is the guy who was friends with all the girls, not because he was the cool kid, but because he was basically their gay friend, even if straight.