ok thx, so safe to say, if LSU wins that game (which I doubt), then Tenn is automatically out.
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I don't think Tennessee will lose again though.
why are we still talking Purdue basketball? This is a football thread.
I'm torn. I think an LSU team that beats Georgia in the SEC championship deserves to get in, even over a Tennessee team that pummeled them in Baton Rouge. I've always considered the SEC champion to be an automatic qualifier. However, there are those that think LSU can't get in without UT getting in. I think Georgia is in no matter what, but I question whether or not the committee has the balls to put three SEC teams in a four team field in the event LSU does win out.
agreed. GA is a lock. If LSU wins, then someone is getting slighted, and since LSU would be coming off a win vs GA, it would be Tenn.
Unless.....the OSU/UM game is very one-sided, and then the winner chokes badly in the B1G champ game....then maybe both B1G teams are out? Too many missing pcs yet.
As for Marquette being garbage: they will play Miss State, Baylor, Wisconsin and Notre Dame before the Big East schedule gets going. The Big East has Villanova, UConn and Creighton, two ranked in the Top 25 and one ranked 28th. I prefer to see how they play others before coming to a conclusion of their worthiness.
Villanova has already dropped out of the top 25 and almost lost to a team that was a 36 point underdog. Nova has carried that conference the last 4 or 5 years and has clearly taken a step back. I think it's a 3, maybe 4 bid league this year, Marquette not factoring into the equation.
Oh, I read your post. You say he got hot for 1 game. He is 3 games into his college career. What's to say that his first 2 games weren't nerves and the third game is more indicative of what we will see going forward? Miller Kopp is different since we know his history. He is in his 5th year. He is what he is.......a career 36% 3pt shooter. The jury is still out on Smith.
If you are on 6 other boards as much as you are here, then yes I know what your life looks like.
What exactly is my projection of him?
You would know if I were posting over there. I'm very forthcoming with who I am. Your mods are are children and are happy to ban anyone and everyone with a differing opinion, so of course I have numerous names over there (none that are currently not banned).
Smart is a shit coach. Why would I care what he thinks?
Michigan could win that. There are questions, once again, about OSU's toughness, and their two top TBs have been injured. If Michigan gets 200 yards rushing, including scrambles, they'll win. Given that it's at OSU, the edge goes to them....maybe 55-45%.
You may or may not be correct about the Big East this year. Time will tell. Marquette may/may not make the NCAA Tournament. However, even if you do not make the NCAAs, that doesn't mean that you are "garbage" as B1GFAN claimed. While NIT participants are not great, I believe "garbage" is a gross overstatement.
Braden Smith could turn out to be the next Michael Jordan. Not likely, but it could happen. Is it more likely in your opinion that Braden Smith averages 20 a game on very efficient shooting like he did last night, or that he averages closer to what we saw in the first two games?
Since the Kopp comparison doesn't work for, do you expect Reneau to shoot 71% from the field and 50% from 3?
Anyone that doesn't make the NCAA tournament is garbage. Yes, that includes IU over the last 6 or 7 years. Since garbage is a subjective term, you should have no arguments.
Interesting.....hadn't thought of that. But, imo, they don't beat Oregon. What about Tennessee v. Michigan? I think a 1 loss Tennessee gets in over Michigan because the SEC is once again the best conference......and late losses (to OSU) matter more. To me, the most likely 4 are GA, OSU, TCU and Tennessee, in that order.
Would be interesting if Michigan losses a very tight or OT game to OSU and looks better than OSU...........
I find your comment humorous. When Smart's VCU team beat Purdue in the NCAAs a few years ago, many people here proclaimed him a great coach. Again, listening to announcers and commentators on television, they seem to have an almost universal opinion that he is a good coach. That was certainly said on the broadcast last evening. Also, I recall many posts here citing Crean's coaching chops because he got Marquette into the Final 4 and criticism of Painter because he has not reached a Final 4. Smart has gotten there. So either a Final 4 is a marker of a good coach or it isn't, which is it? I just want to get it on the record. You can't have it both ways.
As for your projection of Smith, I have read what you have written about him here. I do not take the posts of others who post under false names seriously.
If you posted previously as NCTrojan, I recall your posts at the time of the Gillis recruitment that you were "..in the room..." when serious discussions were held. That was demonstrated to be false, iirc. In fact, did you not later admit that?
If results hold and OSU beats Michigan, yes I think those are the 4 that get in. Tennessee will have better wins and subsequent better resume than Michigan even if Michigan keeps it close with OSU. Now, will the committee go off resume or will they go off eye test? Will be the million dollar question.
I'm not saying Smith will average 20 a game. He could, but not likely. But what I am saying, is that his 3rd game numbers could be closer to what we should expect than the 1st 2 games. But, what you are saying is that players are going to regress from their early numbers. They probably will, but we do not know that with freshman. The jury is still out on all of them. With your logic, what about JHS? Is he shooting 42% from the field, 0% from 3pt, and 56% from the line. Do you expect him to keep that up, regress, or improve?
Shaka has been decidedly average since leaving the friendly confines of the A10. Hasn't won a tournament game since 2013. I'll let you decide if he's a great coach or not.
LSU's fate will make it interesting. If OSU rolls UM, but then loses in conf champ game, is the B1G out? If LSU beats GA, then that might be the case.
As much as we're trying this damn thread keeps turning back into a discussion about Purdue basketball.
Shaka is living off of success he made a decade ago, just like Crean. At some point, the years go by and you either win big again, or people realize you were a flash in the pan, yesterday's news.
Here's what appears to be basically locked in at this point...assuming there aren't any monumental upsets in the last 2 weeks.
Playoff spot - SEC title game winner (LSU will get in if they beat Georgia, not if they don't)
Playoff spot - 2nd SEC team (Georgia makes it no matter what, Tennessee makes it if Georgia wins out)
Playoff spot - B10 title game winner (Assuming its OSU/Mich winner)
The last spot is up for grabs.
TCU will get it if they win out.
If they don't, USC will get it if they win out.
If both of those teams don't, loser of Mich/OSU will get in.
Tennessee could be the 3rd SEC team to make it if:
LSU wins SEC title game
TCU loses
USC loses
Smith is a very solid ball handler, but that's mostly attributed to being very methodical. Purdue is playing at one of the slowest paces in the country, but that's mostly due to Smith using up 12+ seconds bringing the ball up the court nearly every possession before initiating any offense, even with minimal pressure.
He was definitely productive in the Marquette game on an individual level, but that was majorly offset by him somewhat sucking the air out of the rest of the offense with his dribbling. Purdue's offensive movement, and in particular Edey's production, was better when Smith was on the bench. Purdue went on their run with about 8 min to go because Marquette miscalculated by applying a full court press which forced Smith to actually pass the ball, which gave Purdue's offense some life. Only 3 assists when he spends that much time with the ball in his hands is actually quite terrible.
He was definitely productive in the Marquette game on an individual level, but that was majorly offset by him somewhat sucking the air out of the rest of the offense with his dribbling. Purdue's offensive movement, and in particular Edey's production, was better when Smith was on the bench. Purdue went on their run with about 8 min to go because Marquette miscalculated by applying a full court press which forced Smith to actually pass the ball, which gave Purdue's offense some life. Only 3 assists when he spends that much time with the ball in his hands is actually quite terrible.
The only stat that counts is how many games he will win during his four year career. It remains a team game.
-LSU is in if they beat GA.
-If OSU/Michigan don't win the B10 title game, they'll need carnage around them to get in. So much its not worth talking about yet.
I think the most intriguing potential comparison is a 12-1 Pac12 champion USC, with recent wins over UCLA, Notre Dame, and then Oregon...against Tennessee, who would have big wins over Bama and LSU, but no conference championship. My guess is Tennessee would get the nod if that's a direct comp for the last spot.
Your posts here and on GBI do not support these claims.
You also never answered my question, please do so.
You may want to slip out the side door and hope posters forget about you for awhile.
Good thing you were there to "educate" her on how wrong she is about her own son and how her multi year relationship with the IU players is not as valid as your embittered rivalry bias.
I am sure she was thankful, but sure had an odd way of showing her gratitude.
So dumb. After Smart upset Purdue, many thought he was a good coach. That has been proven wrong over the years since then. We now know that Smart only beat Purdue because Matt Painter chokes in March. Tom Crean is also a proven moron as a coach.
Making a Final 4 doesn't make you a great coach. Failing to make the Final 4 in 18 years of being a high major coach does prove that you aren't a great coach.
What is my Smith projection? Are you making stuff up again?
I did post under NC_Trojan10. You cannot point to a time when I said I was in the room with Gillis when he committed. You are mistaking me with another poster. It's funny, because I do know exactly who said that, and we still make fun of him for it. I do know the Gillis family very well, though. Great people.
You don't even make sense. "My logic" is that one or two games against inferior competition is not a baseline for projecting the rest of the season. No, I don't expect JHS to continue with the poor shooting numbers. No, I don't expect Miller Kopp to shoot 75%. No, I don't expect Reneau to average 12 ppg on 71% shooting and 50% shooting from 3. No, I don't expect Braden Smith to be anywhere near 20 ppg.
Let's hear your best guess on what Braden Smith averages for the season. This should be gold.
Winning a bunch of games doesn't matter if you fail in March as so many Painter teams do.
That;s what IU fans do
Marquette is garbage, but I bet you are basing IU to win a Natty based on their two wins so far aren't you?
I do. I'll except that as well. Or stock options. Or cattle. Really, anything. Ownership in a company.
You have any more hot takes like "Fletcher Loyer will average 14 points this year"?
I don't even have IU winning the Big Ten. Go back to GBI and try again later.
Oh wow. That is a bad typo. Usually I'm better than that. Then again, I don't really give a crap on a message board. Good thing there is way more to running a company than being a perfect Grammer person.
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