Boogie Fland
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I saw a meme titled “typical family tree in Kentucky “ and it was a picture of a grass field.
Score in the 87 championship game (1987]. Pleasant walk down memory lane for real bball fans. Golden year. Thanks for bringing it up. Best post you ever made by far.
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Just need to pay them more. Pay them twice as much as now is all Woodson needs for success.
This is exactly how I feel. Also, if I were Dolson, I'd establish a handful of characteristics or qualities I'd be looking for in the next coach. Don't zero in on specific coaches initially, like he seemingly did last time. When those guys don't work out, you're left holding the bag, and end up with plan W type guys like Woodson.
Establish some criteria, identify half a dozen guys that fit that criteria, go after all of them initially. There are so many good college coaches, winning games RIGHT NOW, playing an exciting style and brand of basketball. There would have to be 4-5 of them that would have serious interest in an IU program...that, as you said, would have the backing of the entire AD, BOT, and School Administration.
You're proclaiming success after 10-12 games??? wow
Or a wreath, given the time of year....
Why play dumb..oh that’s right…sorry.
I posted about being sad after reading about homicide detectives in KY.
You tried to cheer me up by posting “1987,”.
You did cheer me up since I immediately realized you were referring to the 1987 NCAA championship game when IU beat Syracuse 74-73.
I acknowledged your reference by just citing the score “74-73”.
I posted about being sad after reading about homicide detectives in KY.
You tried to cheer me up by posting “1987,”.
You did cheer me up since I immediately realized you were referring to the 1987 NCAA championship game when IU beat Syracuse 74-73.
I acknowledged your reference by just citing the score “74-73”.
I suspect that getting a culture change in football is much different than in basketball.
I’m no behind the scenes expert, but it seems Cig brought in his staff and some players. He was experienced at working with them, and obviously they all bought into what he was doing. They came because of him, I assume. Do you think Cig is being influenced to a great deal by others? I’m guessing it’s his show.
Now, clearly MW is where the buck stops, but do I think that Matta and Fife were here because Woodson wanted them? Were they here because they believed in MW and bought in? What about the players? Why are they here? Is it possible that there are other influences and things going on that we don’t know about?
I think the overall climate within the athletic department, school, decision makers, etc... needs to somehow, finally, hit the reset button and just be open, actually supportive and enthusiastic, about what a top tier basketball program needs to look like and be, TODAY. Since the mid 90's, even when RMK was still here, Indiana basketball has been chasing a ghost.
Starting today...we don't need our basketball program to be like RMK's was. We don't need the coach to be connected with the state. We don't need to hold ourselves hostage pining for someone like Stevens to come "save us". Resolve that Indiana basketball IS going to be top tier in every single facet a program can be. Facilities, training, recruiting, style of play, NBA preparation...The standard is the standard. No more good ole boy crap. When Indiana Basketball even marginally figures things out, we do great things. Crean 11-12, and then 16. Sampson in 07'. Even Mike Davis, with his run in 02. All terribly flawed coaches, that caught some momentum...what could IU look like with a coach that isn't as flawed...these days with our relative resources versus the rest of the college bball world???!!!
For Phuck's Sake...grow up and get on the same page. Resolve that you're ALL going to be "in" on this. And go get a really good, proven, forward thinking basketball coach. And surround him with all the wonderful tools and support that IU can offer.
I agree with all of that, but….
Who is in charge?
RMK kept the good ole boy network at bay, he was the sheriff. That good boy network never went away and now we have NIL. So much money. This isn’t a program that is owned by Indiana University and managed by a coach. It’s bigger than that and there are multiple agendas at play. Who is to say that last season wasn’t awesome? To some within the program maybe it was.
Always a concern.
I've never even come close to the dynamics that running a major college bball program involve. But I very strongly suspect...if the AD, Prez, BOT, and the coaching staff, are all presenting a unified standard for what IU basketball is, and the team wins... The bigger money people that drive a chunk of our NIL and other aspects of the program...they'll fall in to place.
I think we've spent too many years worrying about things like that, and have forgotten that the binding element here, is quality, reliable, winning basketball.
In business, its sales and profits. In basketball, its winning. When management or leadership are all on the same page, and winning, its nearly impossible for outside actors to effect change that goes against the ongoing successful efforts of the team.
Agreed. Strong leadership and buy -in at all levels of the organization is needed. Everyone with the same goals, objectives, etc.
I tend to be cynical, but I have seen other organizations fail and no matter how many new coaches they get or top players they draft, they fail.
Its much easier said than done. But its almost always better to establish what it is, and who you want to be, and then go find the leaders that best embody that.
I think Indiana has been epically awful at 1) getting everyone on the same page about what IU basketball is, and should be... 2) Picking coaches that embody that. It seems like they're constantly at odds with each other. Going from Bob Knight to Mike Davis...what??? Going from Knight/Davis to Sampson...what??? Archie Miller...what??? And then a high major program, trying to become a perennial championship level team hiring someone like Woodson...what???
Yes I said it last year and will delete my account if May fails at Michigan and gets fired. We should of fired Woodson and hired May.
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