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Boogie Fland - Here comes a big one!

He’s not flying private on IU’s dime or anybody associated with IU. They aren’t going to jeopardize his eligibility before he even signs his letter of intent.

We have way too many free-thinkers on here who need to stop thinking altogether.
I don't think there's a private jet but regardless, you're blatantly wrong. NIL has limited restrictions so it's nothing for there to be a commercial shoot in Bloomington that is part of his NIL agreement and includes a private flight. You can try to blatantly say that can't happen, but it most certainly can because it does. As long as it's a valid agreement between the business and athlete, the NCAA isn't stepping in front of that.
 
I don't think there's a private jet but regardless, you're blatantly wrong. NIL has limited restrictions so it's nothing for there to be a commercial shoot in Bloomington that is part of his NIL agreement and includes a private flight. You can try to blatantly say that can't happen, but it most certainly can because it does. As long as it's a valid agreement between the business and athlete, the NCAA isn't stepping in front of that.
Just can’t be straight from a booster.
 
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He’s not flying private on IU’s dime or anybody associated with IU. They aren’t going to jeopardize his eligibility before he even signs his letter of intent.

We have way too many free-thinkers on here who need to stop thinking altogether.

Lending a private jet under the guise of NIL isn’t NIL no matter how much you want to think it is.
Its already happening...to the point where its becoming normalized...if not expected, for high profile kids.
 
I don't think there's a private jet but regardless, you're blatantly wrong. NIL has limited restrictions so it's nothing for there to be a commercial shoot in Bloomington that is part of his NIL agreement and includes a private flight. You can try to blatantly say that can't happen, but it most certainly can because it does. As long as it's a valid agreement between the business and athlete, the NCAA isn't stepping in front of that.
What in the hell is the matter with you people? The NCAA 10000% would step in front of a scenario where a kid who 2 hours earlier verballed to IU and was flown in on a private jet to attend IU's midnight madness. Fland isn't eligible to sign his letter of intent for another 2 weeks. This is as clear cut of an impermissible benefits violation as can be.

The NCAA is trying to take down Harbaugh for buying a prospective recruit a damn hamburger, what do you think they would do if they caught wind that a booster fronted a 6 figure charter rental?
 
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Its already happening...to the point where its becoming normalized...if not expected, for high profile kids.
Who, where? Who is being flown around the country on private jets through the university or boosters dime?
 
Just can’t be straight from a booster.
Right, just straight from the booster's business account. A booster can endorse a player's NIL permitted its for an endorsement deal that is part of a disclosed agreement provided to the school. Do people think its common for random businesses to simply want college athletes endorsing their businesses? Although possible, not nearly common enough to make the scene what it is today. People are kidding yourself if you don't think these NIL deals are built upon the foundation of boosters.
 
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Fland is more than within his right to profit off his name, image, and likeness as a high school student in NY. An IU booster lending his private jet has nothing to do with NIL. This isn’t hard. Just because the NCAA has been told they can’t regulate students profiting off their name, image, and likeness, doesn’t mean booster and university associates can run around and throw money and gifts however they see fit.
Get off it being cook lending him the plane geezer I just said him as an example. I could rent him a PJ for 60k. It’s legal. And if it happens, you might just wanna quit this internet thing.
 
What in the hell is the matter with you people? The NCAA 10000% would step in front of a scenario where a kid who 2 hours earlier verballed to IU and was flown in on a private jet to attend IU's midnight madness. Fland isn't eligible to sign his letter of intent for another 2 weeks. This is as clear cut of an impermissible benefits violation as can be.

The NCAA is trying to take down Harbaugh for buying a prospective recruit a damn hamburger, what do you think they would do if they caught wind that a booster fronted a 6 figure charter rental?
Correct, they wouldn't allow that. But they would allow him to take a private jet to IU to shoot a commercial. What he did while he was in Bloomington is up to him. The NCAA could be on the plane with him and see its part of the agreement. You're stuck in your old ways bud. Sorry.
 
Right, just straight from the booster's business account. A booster can endorse a player's NIL permitted its for an endorsement deal that is part of a disclosed agreement provided to the school. Do people think its common for random businesses to simply want college athletes endorsing their businesses? Although possible, not nearly common enough to make the scene what it is today. People are kidding yourself if you don't think these NIL deals are built upon the foundation of boosters.
High school NIL is tricky. Thats the difference. Matter of fact the NCAA is not onboard with this. You can’t just send a boosters plane without getting the ncaa all over it. It’s easier just to use a rented one.

 
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Correct, they wouldn't allow that. But they would allow him to take a private jet to IU to shoot a commercial. What he did while he was in Bloomington is up to him. The NCAA could be on the plane with him and see its part of the agreement. You're stuck in your old ways bud. Sorry.
Of course if the Fland family has the means to afford a chartered jet from White Plains to Bloomington then more power to them. But "X and X family" lending their private jet with a promissory note attached to it, isn't going to fly, literally.
 
Get off it being cook lending him the plane geezer I just said him as an example. I could rent him a PJ for 60k. It’s legal. And if it happens, you might just wanna quit this internet thing.
You and Cook fall under the same status of "booster", if you want to be called that. And while you could do that, it wouldn't be legal, in any sense of how the NCAA operates.
 
Right, just straight from the booster's business account. A booster can endorse a player's NIL permitted its for an endorsement deal that is part of a disclosed agreement provided to the school. Do people think its common for random businesses to simply want college athletes endorsing their businesses? Although possible, not nearly common enough to make the scene what it is today. People are kidding yourself if you don't think these NIL deals are built upon the foundation of boosters.
You couldn't be more wrong as it pertains to a prospective high school recruit.
 
Who, where? Who is being flown around the country on private jets through the university or boosters dime?
Recruits are flying private for visits. And they're not paying for it. That's all I know as facts.
 
Recruits are flying private for visits. And they're not paying for it. That's all I know as facts.
Who and to where and which schools? Who is paying for it?

Are you talking about a recruit making an official visit in which the school is allowed to fund? That is completely different than the situation ascribed above.
 
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Cav and Coach Geez, why can't you guys get along? cav why you call him a geezer? both of you are great contributors here, don't let things get so personal.
 
Who and to where and which school? Who is paying for it?

Are you talking about a recruit making an official visit in which the school is allowed to fund? That is completely different than the situation ascribed above.
I'm talking about recruits flying private to schools, and not paying for it. You can parse through the details if you want. Would this be considered an official visit for Boogie, or has he already used his IU visit?

If Boogie commits at 2, and wants to fly to Bloomington for HH...you actually think he's going to log in to his Delta app and pay for it? Come on dude?!
 
I'm talking about recruits flying private to schools, and not paying for it. You can parse through the details if you want. Would this be considered an official visit for Boogie, or has he already used his IU visit?

If Boogie commits at 2, and wants to fly to Bloomington for HH...you actually think he's going to log in to his Delta app and pay for it? Come on dude?!
He's already taken an official visit and official visits are set weeks in advance and are vetted through the NCAA as the host school has to send a list of financials and expenses that the NCAA approves.

And to answer your question, Boogie isn't calling up IU asking to send a private jet to come pick him and drop him off at AH. That isn't allowed under any rule.
 
Who and to where and which schools? Who is paying for it?

Are you talking about a recruit making an official visit in which the school is allowed to fund? That is completely different than the situation ascribed above.
Well Boogie has not taken his senior year official to B-town, so they could pay for the ticket/travel and be fine if they use it as his official visit this fall
 
He's already taken an official visit and official visits are set weeks in advance and are vetted through the NCAA as the host school has to send a list of financials and expenses that are approved.

And to answer your question, Boogie isn't calling up IU asking to send a private jet to come pick him and drop him off at AH. That isn't allowed under any rule.
And yet... he isn't going to be booking the flight himself and paying for it himself. There are about 400 people in between Boogie and IU that can, and would, facilitate all this. And it certainly wouldn't have to be a commercial airline flight either.

What world do you think you're living in?

Edit...this is all hypothetical. He might be picking Kentucky...and then flying on Calipari's plane to the Bahamas or something. Or he might be picking IU and just sending his love from out east.
 
Well Boogie has not taken his senior year official to B-town, so they could pay for the ticket/travel and be fine if they use it as his official visit this fall
See my post above.

There is a process and protocol that is followed in relation to an official visit. No, Boogie can't call up IU an hour after he commits and say "send the PJ".
 
And yet... he isn't going to be booking the flight himself and paying for it himself. There are about 400 people in between Boogie and IU that can, and would, facilitate all this. And it certainly wouldn't have to be a commercial airline flight either.

What world do you think you're living in?
What part of "School boosters and university associates" can't facilitate NIL deals and inner-workings with prospective high school students do you not understand?

He's not coming to midnight madness unless he's already pre-arranged a flight himself.
 
Woody and IU should have a PJ ready for him and fam to Btown right after. The amount of pub and press that would get would be ginormous. We legit would be looked at as the premiere destination for recruits.

Woody can be King if he gets Boogie and his Queen.
Would be kinda like when EJ flipped for IU and was at Hoosier Hysteria or midnight madness back then.
 
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What part of "School boosters and university associates" can't facilitate NIL deals and inner-workings with prospective high school students do you not understand?
You're precious. Was it you that made this jump that anything and everything that could be done in this little hypothetical had to be done through a booster or IU official?

Have you not been paying attention to NIL stuff?

Literally HUNDREDS of people not "affiliated" with IU that would and could make something like this happen.
 
You're precious. Was it you that made this jump that anything and everything that could be done in this little hypothetical had to be done through a booster or IU official?

Have you not been paying attention to NIL stuff?

Literally HUNDREDS of people not "affiliated" with IU that would and could make something like this happen.
Who are the hundreds of people not affiliated with IU that could pull this off between the time Boogie commits at 2pm and the time Hoosier Hysteria starts at 7, that doesn't cross any kind of impermissible benefit violation set forth by the NCAA?
 
Who are the hundreds of people not affiliated with IU that could pull this off between the time Boogie commits at 2pm and the time Hoosier Hysteria starts at 7, that doesn't cross any kind of impermissible benefit violation set forth by the NCAA?
Sh!t it’s in NY. Easily done. Italian cut suits rule.
 
Listened to some of Jim Coyle/ISB today and he was talking about "what if" they did a video appearance at HH with BF, so maybe that's another option. The only reason I mentioned it was that VMB said he'd heard he might be trying to make HH Friday night.
 
Sh!t it’s in NY. Easily done. Italian cut suits rule.
To be fair, the guy did say hypotheticals. Most hypotheticals don't cross into any sense of reality.

The chances that Boogie receives a legitimate NIL deal from somebody not associated with IU that offers the exclusive use of a private jet at the snap of a finger where all the paperwork has been reviewed by different sets of legal teams all within the hour of committing are slim to none. In other words, Cavanagh has a better chance of becoming IU's next head coach if all we want to talk about is hypotheticals.
 
Who are the hundreds of people not affiliated with IU that could pull this off between the time Boogie commits at 2pm and the time Hoosier Hysteria starts at 7, that doesn't cross any kind of impermissible benefit violation set forth by the NCAA?
I could. The company I work for might love to have Boogie as a spokesman for our products. And we might want to fly him somewhere to snap some pictures for our marketing efforts. We have some dealers relatively close to Bloomington...Bloomington airport is as good a place as any for these photos?!

And while I'm not going to do that, I pretty easily could pull all that together in a couple hours. And I'm not "affiliated" with IU at all.

Much more likely...any of the dozens and dozens of people he's been around in the AAU circles the last couple years.

The core point though...if Boogie wants to come to HH, he will, and he won't be paying for it.

I'm sooo worried about all this now though, that I hope he picks IU at 2, and stays home. DWS...
 
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Geez, not seeing the forest through trees.

A private company can arrange whatever travel arrangements they want to bring in an athlete to sign a NIL contract and/or begin execution of said contract given that state allows HS NIL


The NCAA has zero jurisdiction in a private contract.
 
You guys are making way, way too big of a deal out of him potentially being at Hoosier Hysteria.

If his commitment press conference is at 2 in New York, he’s not going to be at Hoosier Hysteria. And that’s fine — Hoosier Hysteria is a silly event that barely even counts as a practice these days. Relax.
 
Geez, not seeing the forest through trees.

A private company can arrange whatever travel arrangements they want to bring in an athlete to sign a NIL contract and/or begin execution of said contract given that state allows HS NIL


The NCAA has zero jurisdiction in a private contract.
My point is that you're not living in any kind of reality if you think that is going to coincide with him choosing (hopefully) IU and showing up at Hoosier Hysteria 5 hours later. How many non-IU businesses are going to be knocking down Boogie's door to "sign him up" an hour after committing to IU?

What kind of NIL deal do you think Boogie Fland is going to get from a non-IU entity, especially before he plays a collegiate game? $50k? Maybe $100k? It's going to cost more money to fly Boogie private than the actual NIL deal itself. He's a good high school player who might be good enough to get drafted in the first round if he has a good freshman year. He isn't anywhere close to being the second coming.

And you want to accuse me of not seeing the forest?
 
You guys are making way, way too big of a deal out of him potentially being at Hoosier Hysteria.

If his commitment press conference is at 2 in New York, he’s not going to be at Hoosier Hysteria. And that’s fine — Hoosier Hysteria is a silly event that barely even counts as a practice these days. Relax.
Thank you
 
High school NIL is tricky. Thats the difference. Matter of fact the NCAA is not onboard with this. You can’t just send a boosters plane without getting the ncaa all over it. It’s easier just to use a rented one.

Nothing in that document outlines what i stated. A booster, can own a business, the business can make an NIL agreement with anyone. It's not the booster making contact, it's the business. Anyone can then get on a jet as part of the agreement specifically for the endorsement and fly into Bloomington to fulfill his portion of the NIL agreement. The NCAA can dig into that all they want and as long as the facts within the agreement aren't false and was run past the school prior to, this is perfectly legal. How can the NCAA prove differently? These college kids doing commercials for big corporations are most certainly being flown in.
 
Geez, not seeing the forest through trees.

A private company can arrange whatever travel arrangements they want to bring in an athlete to sign a NIL contract and/or begin execution of said contract given that state allows HS NIL


The NCAA has zero jurisdiction in a private contract.
Precisely. The Booster rules are valid but impossible to enforce unless you can prove there wasn't the intent stated within the agreement. Otherwise, its a kid making money and even though people want to pretend its unbelievable that he could then also attend something unofficially while in the area doing business, is going to have a hard time understanding how dark college athletics have been for generations.

But again, its all a moot point because this kid won't be at HH. The fact still remains its not only allowed but its happening already.
 
These college kids doing commercials for big corporations are most certainly being flown in.
We aren't talking about college kids who are free to sign endorsement deals with university backed donors ONCE THEY ARE ACTUALLY ENROLLED IN SCHOOL. We are talking about prospective recruits (high school students) who can't enter into legally binding NIL deals with booster or booster associated entities of the schools they are being recruited by.

READ THE F******* RULE BOOK.
 
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