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Ehh IDK about that.
2018 Nova .. base rotation.

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If you think Loyer, Jones, Gillis, Newton, Morton, Stephanobitch would make that rotation you're obviously smoking crack . Third, fourth, fifth options for Purdue, in their recent glory years, would not start on any championship team. More than half of them wouldn't even get minutes. Scrubs ... all of them. They lack talent ... two guys is not enough but that's what that system generally churns out .
 
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You don’t think PU had talent when they were runner up?
Edey and Smith... and then non Final Four level players.

This year's team, essentially the same team, but without Edey, lost 6 out of 9 games late in the year in what, the 3rd or 4th best conference?

That's how much talent they had outside of Edey. Not to mention how badly UConn destroyed all their non Edey players.

Nah...I'll keep hoping for better.
 
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2018 Nova .. base rotation.

Brunson Pro
Booth
Bridges Pro
Paschall Pro
Spellman Pro
DiVencenzo Pro
Gillespie Pro
Samuels Pro

If you think Loyer, Jones, Gillis, Newton, Morton, Stephanobitch would crack thet rotaton you're obviously smoking crack .
All teams constructed the same? Come on man
 
But Duke has put themselves in a position to win it all quite a lot in the last 20 years.
But they always eventually lose when freshmanitis rears it's ugly head. The last team to win a chip relying on multiple freshman was UK 12.
 
But they always eventually lose when freshmanitis rears it's ugly head. The last team to win a chip relying on multiple freshman was UK 12.
Duke was after that with Okafor, Jones, and Winslow...but that's also been 10 years or so ago. Mainly just talking about the look and feel of the program and team. But I guess a similar argument could be made against that specific approach...they too have a ceiling just below winning a Natty. Theirs is probably higher than Purdue's though still...
 
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Duke was after that with Okafor, Jones, and Winslow...but that's also been 10 years or so ago. Mainly just talking about the look and feel of the program and team. But I guess a similar argument could be made against that specific approach...they too have a ceiling just below winning a Natty. Theirs is probably higher than Purdue's though still...
I bet money PU will be a final four team next year
 
Huh? TKR is a better Daryl Thomas lol.
Calloway?? Come on man lol
And currently, your team is going to rely on Fletcher Loyer, 2 unproven sub 6-5 wings, an all American that is prone to getting destroyed by athletic backcourts, and 2 non Pro level bigs to win a natty...

Good luck.
 
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And currently, your team is going to rely on Fletcher Loyer, 2 unproven sub 6-5 wings, an all American that is prone to getting destroyed by athletic backcourts, and 2 non Pro level bigs to win a natty...

Good luck.
My team? Good grief dude, heaven forbid we just talk basketball. Also Devries will most likely be more like Painter than he will your Duke or Kansas example.
Purdue returns TKR, Smith and add the big man from SD and the Israeli.
Unlike you I can talk basketball and give credit to people other than the team I follow.
 
And currently, your team is going to rely on Fletcher Loyer, 2 unproven sub 6-5 wings, an all American that is prone to getting destroyed by athletic backcourts, and 2 non Pro level bigs to win a natty...

Good luck.
Zero athletes on that roster.
 
Good grief man. Villanova had way more talent than Purdue. It’s not even close. It’s a bad comparison.
It's a bad comparison to every championship team in the last ten years and probably more. Painter can't recruit enough talent, he does develop well but that road has limitations. The limitation is only having 1 or 2 guys per year, when you need 3 or 4. Plus his coaching hides their faults.
 
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This is Purdues final crack at it. They spent this year. Purdue still needs athletic wings. Running it back with who they have is elite eight max.
Depends how good this Israeli kid and the big man from SD are. They def need to add some athleticism to the wing
 
My team? Good grief dude, heaven forbid we just talk basketball. Also Devries will most likely be more like Painter than he will your Duke or Kansas example.
Purdue returns TKR, Smith and add the big man from SD and the Israeli.
Unlike you I can talk basketball and give credit to people other than the team I follow.
You talk about PUke the most and blow up threads.
 
They keep changing the uniforms, so we not only don't know the players, we don't know what color unis are the IU players wearing!

I guess I'm old. One of the great joys I've had in being a fan was watching a player develop over 4 years, from the deer-in-the-headlights freshman to the smart & aggressive junior or senior. But now the rosters churn over so fast that no such continuity will seemingly ever exist, other than for maybe the end-of-the-roster guys who find a niche over time.
I loved watching them in high school! Of course I saw several of Damon’s games, but also Yogi, TJD, and others.
 
That doesn’t matter anymore unless you are recruiting that type kid. I’m all for kids getting paid but I like it to be paying the talent you retain. Like Purdue has done with Edey and Smith. They play for the name on the jersey, gave the home town discount to stay and play for that team. I hope Devries recruits this way.
We’ll see what happens to Purdue after this year. Those guys all started just as NIL was ramping up. My guess is they will have the same issues as everyone else soon.
 
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My team? Good grief dude, heaven forbid we just talk basketball. Also Devries will most likely be more like Painter than he will your Duke or Kansas example.
Purdue returns TKR, Smith and add the big man from SD and the Israeli.
Unlike you I can talk basketball and give credit to people other than the team I follow.
We're well beyond this backtracking... you have a very well established track record for popping up and ardently supporting a B level national program. In the context of you purporting to be an IU fan, its very odd.
 
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We're well beyond this backtracking... you have a very well established track record for popping up and ardently supporting a B level national program. In the context of you purporting to be an IU fan, its very odd.
I live 45 minutes from them and know the program. Not a fan, just recognizing they have been doing well and iu hasn’t, and maybe the reason is how they develop and recruit was better than how iu was doing it.
 
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Why didn’t Houston? Or Alabama?
None of those teams mentioned, and probably 15-20 others, would have struggled to beat IU at home, and got their asses beaten by IU in the Hall. That's the point. Their relative talent level catches up with them. Its why they've NEVER won a Natty. Its why they have 1 Final four in 45 years. They're Purdue.
 
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None of those teams mentioned, and probably 15-20 others, would have struggled to beat IU at home, and got their asses beaten by IU in the Hall. That's the point. Their relative talent level catches up with them. Its why they've NEVER won a Natty. Its why they have 1 Final four in 45 years. They're Purdue.
Ok lol
 
I live 45 minutes from them and know the program. Not a fan, just recognizing they have been doing well and iu hasn’t, and maybe the reason is how they develop and recruit was better than how iu was doing it.
They're doing great, fine, well, whatever positive description you want to put on them.

Painter has been there 20 years now, and they're still not Kansas, Florida, UConn, Nova, etc...

So no... its pretty easy to decide that I wouldn't want DeVries to strive to be like Painter and Purdue. Its not hard, at all, to understand that Self, Jay Wright, Hurley, etc... are much more desirable models to emulate. And part of the reason for that is many of us have experienced it.

You can pick and choose the elements you think match Purdue as well, developing, turnover...whatever... that was common place before one and dones became fashionable. RMK IU was not = Painter Purdue... They were always good because he was a brilliant coach. They won natty's because he realized he needed elite talent to do it, and was constantly looking for it. When he had it, they had legit chances to win Natty's... 73, 75, 76, 81, 83, 87, 89, 92, 93...put yourself in that position enough times, and you'll win some...say maybe 3 of them. If you're a program that rarely ever puts yourself in that position... you're much less likely to win any.
 
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They still aren’t very athletic. Florida team this year would’ve beat them by double digits.
As would have Duke and Auburn. Alabama probably as well had they played in the tourney. PU lucked out with the easiest path to get where they got and also got the #1 seed they matched up best with. Not their fault, they played who they were seeded to play.
 
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RMK told him half the secret - recruit smart players - he didn't tell him the second half. You need high level talent. I hope we do what 1/2 of what Painter does, plus talent. Purdue does a good job developing, and dumpster diving but he never has an enough talent. Edey/Smith surrounded by scrubs. Smith/TKR surrounded by scrubs.. smart one dimensional scrubs but still scrubs. It doesn't work, unless December championships are the goal.
One UCONN buzz saw from a natty.
 
Duke was after that with Okafor, Jones, and Winslow...but that's also been 10 years or so ago. Mainly just talking about the look and feel of the program and team. But I guess a similar argument could be made against that specific approach...they too have a ceiling just below winning a Natty. Theirs is probably higher than Purdue's though still...
2015 - I forgot about them.
 
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