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Based on skillset alone, is there even one guy

Hopefully Goode gets his 5th year otherwise clean house. Looking forward to a new culture and a roster of guys that want to play for W's and not their own stat sheet
Yes, build with culture first.

Hopefully a new coach can instill confidence when bringing in new players that we can win. That has been missing. Look at Ballo. He left Arizona/Gonzaga, and he ends up at IU. Obviously he isn’t here because it gives him a better chance to win.
 
Goode would be my top guy. He can play and thrive in pretty much any system, I'd strongly guess.

Beyond that, just depends on who new coach is, what they value, what they teach, and whether or not our current guys are willing/capable of doing those things.

Pretty much all of them are probably more than capable physically. Its a very small thing, but watching guys like Mack, Malik, Bryson, even Trey lots of times...defend active and dangerous perimeter ball handlers while standing straight up... There's just no way that Woodson was working on fundamental things, regularly, like defensive stances, help and recover, and then whatever offensive things that would be similar to that.

What do those guys look like playing for a coach that would focus on those things...starting in April of this year? Its possible many of them would look completely different.

But outside knowing that... I'd say Goode...I suspect a healthy Newton too...but there's no way to actually know anything on him, at this point.
 
Goode would be my top guy. He can play and thrive in pretty much any system, I'd strongly guess.

Beyond that, just depends on who new coach is, what they value, what they teach, and whether or not our current guys are willing/capable of doing those things.

Pretty much all of them are probably more than capable physically. Its a very small thing, but watching guys like Mack, Malik, Bryson, even Trey lots of times...defend active and dangerous perimeter ball handlers while standing straight up... There's just no way that Woodson was working on fundamental things, regularly, like defensive stances, help and recover, and then whatever offensive things that would be similar to that.

What do those guys look like playing for a coach that would focus on those things...starting in April of this year? Its possible many of them would look completely different.

But outside knowing that... I'd say Goode...I suspect a healthy Newton too...but there's no way to actually know anything on him, at this point.
Sad to say, but Newton is Maurice Creek.
 
Carlyle is just scratching the surface of his incredible abilities. Under a new coach, he will be all Big Ten! He’s the guy to build a roster around. Definite keeper.
 
Carlyle is just scratching the surface of his incredible abilities. Under a new coach, he will be all Big Ten! He’s the guy to build a roster around. Definite keeper.
I know you're joking...but he would probably be a good, contributing guard for a better coach and program. He was impactful defensively, and on the boards, when he was engaged and dialed in. And we know that's probably something natural in him, because so few others showed it for Woodson. And on the rare stretches where he wasn't shooting the ball the second he touched it, or taking awful 19 foot jumpers off one pass and one dribble... when he just played within the flow, cut to the basket, offensive rebounded...he showed what he could be.

Not saying he'll ever average 20, or be all conference at a P4 conference or anything...but a coach that compelled him to play the "right" way all the time, and he'd look completely different as a player. AND I suspect would get a lot more comfortable shooting the ball too.
 
I do hope Goode returns. Could care less about the rest. They didn’t show their full potential in the year(s) they’ve been here so I won’t miss what I never saw. And potential includes skills, grit, leadership, passion, er al.
 
This seems like the Sampson situation at IU, probably best just to guy the program and start over from scratch. Thankful, portal szn is amongst us.
 
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