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"autism destroys families" says the non doctor/buffoon RFK Jr.

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Been dealing with reoccurring bladder cancer for the last four years so I’ve worked really hard on fixing my body.
You really are a hero. Your son loves you more than anything. God bless you and your health.

Reading through this thread has me in tears. So many of us going through this. We feel alone but we aren't. Stay strong brothers!
 
For everyone with special needs children, one major thing to get setup is a Special Needs Trust(SNT). I didn't even realize that was a thing until about a year ago. It really puts a little peace of mind in the back of your head... There I go I'm crying again. Peace out homies.
 
For everyone with special needs children, one major thing to get setup is a Special Needs Trust(SNT). I didn't even realize that was a thing until about a year ago. It really puts a little peace of mind in the back of your head... There I go I'm crying again. Peace out homies.
You heard about it a year ago…I heard about it just now from your post. Thank you.

My biggest fear is knowing that we won’t be here forever to care for him. And thinking he’s going to end up in one of those shitty institutions or group homes. I worked in one when I was doing my undergrad. I know most of the people there really care and do their best, but it would be a shitty place to have to live. We’re doing everything we can for him, to prepare him, but I wonder if he’ll ever be truly capable of living on his own. High functioning for autism can still be light years away from “normal” everyday functioning.
 
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You heard about it a year ago…I heard about it just now from your post. Thank you.

My biggest fear is knowing that we won’t be here forever to care for him. And thinking he’s going to end up in one of those shitty institutions or group homes. I worked in one when I was doing my undergrad. I know most of the people there really care and do their best, but it would be a shitty place to have to live. We’re doing everything we can for him, to prepare him, but I wonder if he’ll ever be truly capable of living on his own. High functioning for autism can still be light years away from “normal” everyday functioning.
I’m in shock you people don’t know these things. Go see an estate planning lawyer. Talk. Snt. Healthcare directives. Peace of mind

If it looks like Medicaid beds suicide or assisted suicide. Unless you’re in rural America I guess
 
For everyone with special needs children, one major thing to get setup is a Special Needs Trust(SNT). I didn't even realize that was a thing until about a year ago. It really puts a little peace of mind in the back of your head... There I go I'm crying again. Peace out homies.
ABLE (aka STABLE) accounts are also very useful. They are much easier to set up than a SNT and the money can be used for more things (including living expenses). On the other hand, ABLE accounts have annual contribution limits and size limits. In many instances it makes sense to have both an ABLE account and a SNT.

 
Lol my ex is much hotter. Lingerie model. That’s who he married in that pic. Got mine on a break at the sushi joint around the corner from Napoli

@DANC im feeling a certain way
Was your ex-stoker or your baby momma who is the lingerie model?

Asking for a friend.
 
Not saying you're wrong. Your feelings are valid. However there is no proof linking autism to vaccines. In our support group their is a couple who's child never got any vaccines. Religious exemption. That's just as anecdotal as kids with vaccines.

I'm good with more research on that though. As everyone should be.
'Your feelings'........
Forget your family's REAL life vaxx injuries experience.
It's just your 'feelings'.....
 
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You heard about it a year ago…I heard about it just now from your post. Thank you.

My biggest fear is knowing that we won’t be here forever to care for him. And thinking he’s going to end up in one of those shitty institutions or group homes. I worked in one when I was doing my undergrad. I know most of the people there really care and do their best, but it would be a shitty place to have to live. We’re doing everything we can for him, to prepare him, but I wonder if he’ll ever be truly capable of living on his own. High functioning for autism can still be light years away from “normal” everyday functioning.
Not sure where you live. If in Indiana, the ARC is a great resource.

 
I’m in shock you people don’t know these things. Go see an estate planning lawyer. Talk. Snt. Healthcare directives. Peace of mind

If it looks like Medicaid beds suicide or assisted suicide. Unless you’re in rural America I guess
It's important to talk to someone who is versed in the specifics of special needs kids and adults.

I waded through a lot of blanks stares and people saying shit this was just flat out wrong before I got a referral to the guy we used. I posted the website for ARC of Indiana above. If anyone is in Indiana, that's a great place to start.

If you're in the Indy area, Bob Fechtman is who we used for guardianship and our SNT. I can't recommend him enough.

 
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It's important to talk to someone who is versed in the specifics of special needs kids and adults.

I waded through a lot of blanks stares and people saying shit this was just flat out wrong before I got a referral to the guy we used. I posted the website for ARC of Indiana above. If anyone is in Indiana, that's a great place to start.

If you're in the Indy area, Bob Fechtman is who we used for guardianship and our SNT. I can't recommend him enough.

@TheOriginalHappyGoat i think actually does that shit too
 
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The Bad Things thread appears to be gone, so this is the next best place to put it.


Horrible person who should see jail time.
Saw that. Make me think deporting some US citizens may be a good idea. (Calm down, you easily triggered. That's my emotional reaction, not a policy suggestion. Although booting Hickory and the brain dead here might be a great idea).
 
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I grew up in the 70s, as many of you here did as well. Think back to your elementary school classes. Were at least 1-in-31 of your classmates autistic and not diagnosed? Certainly. We thought of them as "slow" or "unruly" or "difficult" kids. It wasn't categorized with any precision. These kids were not afforded special classes or adjustments to improve their classroom performance. They just floundered and were often ostracized. No parent wanted their kid to be known for those issues. So we just passed the slow, weird McMurt-type kids along, year after year.
 
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I grew up in the 70s, as many of you here did as well. Think back to your elementary school classes. Were at least 1-in-31 of your classmates autistic and not diagnosed? Certainly. We thought of them as "slow" or "unruly" or "difficult" kids. It wasn't categorized with any precision. These kids were not afforded special classes or adjustments to improve their classroom performance. They just floundered and were often ostracized. No parent wanted their kid to be known for those issues. So we just passed the slow, weird McMurt-type kids along, year after year.

Graduated high school in 1989. Didn't know a single kid that smeared poop, couldn't talk, constantly stemmed, had huge sensory issues, etc.
 
Graduated high school in 1989. Didn't know a single kid that smeared poop, couldn't talk, constantly stemmed, had huge sensory issues, etc.
You need a fact infusion

-Autism is a wide spectrum
-Autism is not a disease
-There are genetic causes
-It can often be diagnosed within months of birth
-Autistic people pay taxes
-Autistic people go on dates
-Autistic people get married
-Autistic people have children
-Autistic people have careers and often thrive
-They can be doctors, scientists, teachers, artists, musicians, entrepreneurs, business executives, athletes, actors, and just about anything else
-Autistic people are our neighbors, coworkers, friends, and family


Please tell me how / why you doubt any of these facts.
 
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I grew up in the 70s, as many of you here did as well. Think back to your elementary school classes. Were at least 1-in-31 of your classmates autistic and not diagnosed? Certainly. We thought of them as "slow" or "unruly" or "difficult" kids. It wasn't categorized with any precision. These kids were not afforded special classes or adjustments to improve their classroom performance. They just floundered and were often ostracized. No parent wanted their kid to be known for those issues. So we just passed the slow, weird McMurt-type kids along, year after year.
How many kids went to the nurse on their lunch break to take regular medication
 
I grew up in the 70s, as many of you here did as well. Think back to your elementary school classes. Were at least 1-in-31 of your classmates autistic and not diagnosed? Certainly. We thought of them as "slow" or "unruly" or "difficult" kids. It wasn't categorized with any precision. These kids were not afforded special classes or adjustments to improve their classroom performance. They just floundered and were often ostracized. No parent wanted their kid to be known for those issues. So we just passed the slow, weird McMurt-type kids along, year after year.
Uh no. Honestly we didn’t have fat kids like you either.
 
I grew up in the 70s, as many of you here did as well. Think back to your elementary school classes. Were at least 1-in-31 of your classmates autistic and not diagnosed? Certainly. We thought of them as "slow" or "unruly" or "difficult" kids. It wasn't categorized with any precision. These kids were not afforded special classes or adjustments to improve their classroom performance. They just floundered and were often ostracized. No parent wanted their kid to be known for those issues. So we just passed the slow, weird McMurt-type kids along, year after year.
Damned if I know. In eighth grade in the '60s most of us were too busy checking out blossoming boobs.
 
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I never knew any kids that smeared poop, couldn't talk, etc. Neither do your kids. Extremes of the spectrum that rarely are encountered.
The “spectrum” has expanded as has the use of medication in younger and younger kids….why is that?

Or did your public school have a good percentage of kids taking medication?
 
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Graduated high school in 1989. Didn't know a single kid that smeared poop, couldn't talk, constantly stemmed, had huge sensory issues, etc.
Yep. That's because they were usually placed into an institution, and certainly were not permitted to attend regular schools. That all changed significantly starting around 1990 when the IDEA was passed. Until then, you would very rarely see a child with Down syndrome attending the same school as other kids in their neighborhood.

I used to be president of our county board for developmental disabilities. We operated three schools for children with the most significant developmental disabilities - some of them spent the school day in hospital beds. When I first joined the board, we reduced the number of schools to two because we simply no longer needed three. That was around 2005. One of the schools had photos of each graduating class going back to the 1970s. They were arranged sequentially, and each class was progressively smaller. Early on, most classes were almost entirely students who had Down syndrome. By the late 1990s, very few students with Down syndrome attended the schools. Some graduating classes had none or maybe 1-2 out of 10-15.

Times have changed since you and I were kids. In 1974, the grade school I attended was replaced by a state-of-the-art building designed to accommodate students with disabilities. They combined my grade school with an existing school for students with disabilities. It made national news as it was one of the first grade schools in the country that allowed typical kids and those with disabilities to attend the same school. But, it was only for kids with physical disabilities - not those with developmental disabilities. The kids with developmental disabilities were required to attend a completely separate school. It was that way until at least 1990 or so.

So yes, growing up you never saw kids severely affected by autism. But that's largely because they were hidden away from society.
 
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Your photo was a little troublesome tho as on a break this fckr got my ex stoker. I found the msgs
That dork has gotten a hard on since Bobby Knight was coaching. He probably doesn't even eat p#%%y. She's miserable Murt.
 
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I am wrong in saying that you would not be medically treated for a condition if you and everyone else (including doctors) hasn't recognized that you even have the condition?

Really?

Please explain.
How many kids has a peanut allergy?
Why the increased use of SSRIs in elementary kids? Why the increased use of clonidine in elementary kids? Were there kids in your 1st grade class that didn’t want to sit in their chair? What was the solution?
 
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Again, why am I wrong when I said that a kid would not be medically treated for a condition if the kid and everyone else (including doctors) hasn't recognized that the condition existed?

That's what you quoted and that's what you claimed was wrong.

As to SSRIs, the first effective and widely used SSRI approved for use in adults was Prozac (fluoxetine), approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in December 1987 and marketed in January 1988. Much later it was approved for kids (2002).

My school lacked a time machine, so indeed in the 1970s no kids were taking SSRIs

Kids who wouldn't sit in their chair back then were paddled. So were kids who talked too much in class or talked back to the teacher.
 
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Again, why am I wrong when I said that a kid would not be medically treated for a condition if the kid and everyone else (including doctors) hasn't recognized that the condition existed?

That's what you quoted and that's what you claimed was wrong.

As to SSRIs, the first effective and widely used SSRI approved for use in adults was Prozac (fluoxetine), approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in December 1987 and marketed in January 1988. Much later it was approved for kids (2002).

My school lacked a time machine, so indeed in the 1970s no kids were taking SSRIs

Kids who wouldn't sit in their chair back then were paddled. So were kids who talked too much in class or talked back to the teacher.
Is that when you weren’t learning about aids @hookyIU1990 🤣🤣🤣
 
Yep. That's because they were usually placed into an institution, and certainly were not permitted to attend regular schools. That all changed significantly starting around 1990 when the IDEA was passed. Until then, you would very rarely see a child with Down syndrome attending the same school as other kids in their neighborhood.

Wasn't there a predecessor law started around your schooling that allowed for disabled children to be integrated with public schools? Or are you saying that only physically disabled kids were part of that old version?


So yes, growing up you never saw kids severely affected by autism. But that's largely because they were hidden away from society.

While this is a fair point, it is hard to ignore some of the idea that something environmental is driving the incidence rate. Since 2000, 10 years post-IDEA, the rate has grown from 1 in 150 to 1 in 31.

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Again, why am I wrong when I said that a kid would not be medically treated for a condition if the kid and everyone else (including doctors) hasn't recognized that the condition existed?

That's what you quoted and that's what you claimed was wrong.

As to SSRIs, the first effective and widely used SSRI approved for use in adults was Prozac (fluoxetine), approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in December 1987 and marketed in January 1988. Much later it was approved for kids (2002).

My school lacked a time machine, so indeed in the 1970s no kids were taking SSRIs

Kids who wouldn't sit in their chair back then were paddled. So were kids who talked too much in class or talked back to the teacher.
The paddle was the better treatment option…in most cases it would be today as well. There are some parents on here that have kids with special needs. Not to speak out of turn but I would assume they have benefited some what from pharmaceuticals. But that doesn’t change the fact that as a whole our children are over medicated and that continues to be the fact all thru adulthood.
 
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