Are we going to ignore the NC State/NCAA drama?

[JamieDimonsBalls]

Here's a couple decent summaries:

College Baseball Stunned by NC State's Removal From CWS

The college baseball world on Saturday struggled to come to terms with the news of NC State's removal from the CWS.

www.baseballamerica.com

NC State baseball: Report reveals why Wolfpack had to forfeit game against Vanderbilt

NC State baseball's season is over due to the NCAA's ruling.

www.saturdaydownsouth.com

D1Baseball’s Aaron Fitt reported that two unvaccinated NC State players tested positive for COVID-19 this week in Omaha. Per the guidelines, that prompted the NCAA to then test the entire Wolfpack roster, including the vaccinated players. Four NC State players then tested positive, and the NCAA made the no-contest ruling for Saturday’s game.

So, to be clear, the NCAA decided that these four vaccinated players that supposedly tested positive for COVID (sorry if I'm still skeptical over the testing accuracy) were more of a risk than all of the (supposedly) vaccinated, unmasked fans at the CWS? Despite those players risk of transmission, even if four of them somehow tested positive for COVID, being materially reduced and the game being played outdoors, the NCAA did something even worse.

The NCAA clearly is only looking out for its pocketbook and I hope the players sue it for damages caused by emotional distress, as there is sure to be plenty.

Also, blasting out the decision over Twitter at 2:10am seems like a poor way of handling the notification.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Here's a couple decent summaries:

College Baseball Stunned by NC State's Removal From CWS

The college baseball world on Saturday struggled to come to terms with the news of NC State's removal from the CWS.

www.baseballamerica.com

NC State baseball: Report reveals why Wolfpack had to forfeit game against Vanderbilt

NC State baseball's season is over due to the NCAA's ruling.

www.saturdaydownsouth.com

D1Baseball’s Aaron Fitt reported that two unvaccinated NC State players tested positive for COVID-19 this week in Omaha. Per the guidelines, that prompted the NCAA to then test the entire Wolfpack roster, including the vaccinated players. Four NC State players then tested positive, and the NCAA made the no-contest ruling for Saturday’s game.

So, to be clear, the NCAA decided that these four vaccinated players that supposedly tested positive for COVID (sorry if I'm still skeptical over the testing accuracy) were more of a risk than all of the (supposedly) vaccinated, unmasked fans at the CWS? Despite those players risk of transmission, even if four of them somehow tested positive for COVID, being materially reduced and the game being played outdoors, the NCAA did something even worse.

The NCAA clearly is only looking out for its pocketbook and I hope the players sue it for damages caused by emotional distress, as there is sure to be plenty.

Also, blasting out the decision over Twitter at 2:10am seems like a poor way of handling the notification.

this thing breaks my heart on many levels. how stupid for these kids not to be vaccinated out of an abundance of caution for some F up to happen. god i hate the ncaa tho. my college team was the best team in the country my junior year. we were absolutely pounding teams and one of the other coaches that didn't like ours reported us that we had pros on our team. the ncaa did an investigation with a group of our players who were foreign and received meal money overseas and made them sit out. after the ncaa tournament was over they delivered their ruling that they were not professionals lol. AFTER the tournament they said they were fine to play. Fing ridiculous. five starters.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

this thing breaks my heart on many levels. how stupid for these kids not to be vaccinated out of an abundance of caution for some F up to happen. god i hate the ncaa tho. my college team was the best team in the country my junior year. we were absolutely pounding teams and one of the other coaches that didn't like ours reported us that we had pros on our team. the ncaa did an investigation with a group of our players who were foreign and received meal money overseas and made them sit out. after the ncaa tournament was over they delivered their ruling that they were not professionals lol. AFTER the tournament they said they were fine to play. Fing ridiculous. five starters.

to be clear 4 out of 6 were vaxxed

 

[UncleMark]

to be clear 4 out of 6 were vaxxed

Conflicting information on that point .

 

[mcmurtry66]

to be clear 4 out of 6 were vaxxed

understood. but knowing how capricious the ncaa can be any forward thinking coach would have thought of this and forced every kid going to be vaccinated or stay back. if i was on that team i'd be absolutely livid right now. and i'd be livid at my coach and teammates who weren't vax. those are memories lost forever. I can tell you personally those memories mean more to me than anything in my life outside of family. They mean a hell of a lot more than school and work and our crew all these years later message daily. Coach f’d those kids. Stupid.

 

[UncleMark]

...any forward thinking coach would have thought of this and forced every kid going to be vaccinated or stay back. if i was on that team i'd be absolutely livid right now. and i'd be livid at my coach and teammates who weren't vax. [...] Coach f’d those kids. Stupid.

Exactly. The coach and the AD were douchebags for not requiring vaccinations. The selfish/ignorant/stupid unvaxxed bastards should never have been allowed to jeopardize the welfare of the team. I'll guarantee Tom Allen has his whole team vaccinated. That's what LEO is all about -- looking out for your teammates, even if that is uncomfortable or requires a little self-sacrifice.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Exactly. The coach and the AD were douchebags for not requiring vaccinations. The selfish/ignorant/stupid unvaxxed bastards should never have been allowed to jeopardize the welfare of the team. I'll guarantee Tom Allen has his whole team vaccinated. That's what LEO is all about -- looking out for your teammates, even if that is uncomfortable or requires a little self-sacrifice.

Absolutely!!!

 

[Noodle]

Exactly. The coach and the AD were douchebags for not requiring vaccinations. The selfish/ignorant/stupid unvaxxed bastards should never have been allowed to jeopardize the welfare of the team. I'll guarantee Tom Allen has his whole team vaccinated. That's what LEO is all about -- looking out for your teammates, even if that is uncomfortable or requires a little self-sacrifice.

As of now, isn’t IU requiring all students to be vaccinated if they want to be on campus this Fall? Or did they back off from that? Meanwhile, in Florida I think that would likely violate their recently enacted state law. It seems likely that a coach in Florida likewise could not require vaccination for participation in a sport.

 

[ulrey]

listen to the science

 

[UncleMark]

As of now, isn’t IU requiring all students to be vaccinated if they want to be on campus this Fall? Or did they back off from that? Meanwhile, in Florida I think that would likely violate their recently enacted state law. It seems likely that a coach in Florida likewise could not require vaccination for participation in a sport.

I'll ask @Marvin the Martian to fact check me, but IIUC, IU has backed off somewhat. Originally, they said if you didn't have the vax (or a very very good excuse, medical or religious) you couldn't be on campus, period. They've since revised that to requiring those who won't get vaxxed to get tested constantly and being suject to quarantining and the like. They may also be "requiring" the unvaxxed to wear masks, but it seems to me that would be unenforceable.

I suppose a coach in FL might not be able to "force" a player to get the vax, but I'm sure he could force the player to wear a mask, just like an employer. That would get the point across.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I'll ask @Marvin the Martian to fact check me, but IIUC, IU has backed off somewhat. Originally, they said if you didn't have the vax (or a very very good excuse, medical or religious) you couldn't be on campus, period. They've since revised that to requiring those who won't get vaxxed to get tested constantly and being suject to quarantining and the like. They may also be "requiring" the unvaxxed to wear masks, but it seems to me that would be unenforceable.

I suppose a coach in FL might not be able to "force" a player to get the vax, but I'm sure he could force the player to wear a mask, just like an employer. That would get the point across.

And they play games in other states with other requirements. As a practical matter the coaches and teammates should have gotten together and sorted this out in advance.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

I'll ask @Marvin the Martian to fact check me, but IIUC, IU has backed off somewhat. Originally, they said if you didn't have the vax (or a very very good excuse, medical or religious) you couldn't be on campus, period. They've since revised that to requiring those who won't get vaxxed to get tested constantly and being suject to quarantining and the like. They may also be "requiring" the unvaxxed to wear masks, but it seems to me that would be unenforceable.

I suppose a coach in FL might not be able to "force" a player to get the vax, but I'm sure he could force the player to wear a mask, just like an employer. That would get the point across.

Students are supposed to be vaccinated and must attest to being vaccinated. But they are not required to prove it due to state law.

 

[UncleMark]

Students are supposed to be vaccinated and must attest to being vaccinated. But they are not required to prove it due to state law.

So if they don't lie and are not vaccinated, they will be banned?

 

[Noodle]

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I suppose a coach in FL might not be able to "force" a player to get the vax, but I'm sure he could force the player to wear a mask, just like an employer. That would get the point across.

I’m not sure even that would be permitted in Florida.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

So if they don't lie and are not vaccinated, they will be banned?

They are not saying that directly, the wording is that lying on attestations often come with severe penalties in life. So the implications are there.

Oh, people can request religious and health exemptions.

I answered the wrong question, yes, that is what is being said. And staff would be fired. Faculty, maybe. Courts would probably determine if tenure protects faculty.

 

[UncleMark]

They are not saying that directly, the wording is that lying on attestations often come with severe penalties in life. So the implications are there.

Oh, people can request religious and health exemptions.

I answered the wrong question, yes, that is what is being said. And staff would be fired. Faculty, maybe. Courts would probably determine if tenure protects faculty.

So bottom line, if you pinkie swear you're vaccinated you're home free?

 

[Marvin the Martian]

So bottom line, if you pinkie swear you're vaccinated you're home free?

Yes, unless someone rats you out.

 

[Noodle]

They are not saying that directly, the wording is that lying on attestations often come with severe penalties in life. So the implications are there.

Oh, people can request religious and health exemptions.

I answered the wrong question, yes, that is what is being said. And staff would be fired. Faculty, maybe. Courts would probably determine if tenure protects faculty.

And yet, 46% of nursing home staff in
the US are still unvaccinated. Think about that.

 

[UncleMark]

Yes, unless someone rats you out.

So how does that work? Does the rat have to show you're not, or do you then have to show you are?

 

[UncleMark]

And yet, 46% of nursing home staff in
the US are still unvaccinated. Think about that.

Boggles. How can that be allowed to happen?

 

[Marvin the Martian]

So how does that work? Does the rat have to show you're not, or do you then have to show you are?

That I do not know,in fact Aaron (IU's COVID lead) STRONGLY urged people not to report anyone. I think he knows IU has no way to find out

 

[Marvin the Martian]

And yet, 46% of nursing home staff in
the US are still unvaccinated. Think about that.

I was just reading today how transplant patients are not getting immune responses from the shots. Unvaccinated medical workers are going to kill people.

 

[outside shooter]

I was just reading today how transplant patients are not getting immune responses from the shots. Unvaccinated medical workers are going to kill people.

Yes, I have a friend who is a liver transplant recipient. She has been vaccinated, twice, yet her antibody levels are zero. She's among those that need the rest of us to not be stupid.

 

[Lucy01]

Yes, I have a friend who is a liver transplant recipient. She has been vaccinated, twice, yet her antibody levels are zero. She's among those that need the rest of us to not be stupid.

Jim Jones says hi 👋

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Jim Jones says hi 👋

 

[mcmurtry66]

I absolutely love this picture. I love when he makes that resting face. He looks just like Tony Clifton

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

I absolutely love this picture. I love when he makes that resting face. He looks just like Tony Clifton

 

[mcmurtry66]

Hahahahahaha bwahahahahaha fantastic

 

[mcmurtry66]

That is so great

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

That is so great

There was actually a conspiracy theory back in 2016 that Trump was Andy Kaufman in disguise.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

 

[mcmurtry66]

There was actually a conspiracy theory back in 2016 that Trump was Andy Kaufman in disguise.

That’s really funny. I swear when he adopts that one posture and facial expression he looks just like him

 

[mcmurtry66]

Love it

 

[Noodle]

There was actually a conspiracy theory back in 2016 that Trump was Andy Kaufman in disguise.

If only we could have been that lucky.

 

[outside shooter]

That's not any less crazy than the Evangelicals who insist that Trump was sent by Jesus!

 

[cosmickid]

That's not any less crazy than the Evangelicals who insist that Trump was sent by Jesus!

This story is 5 days old, so not the most current of info. I think it's funny that people who are refusing to take a major safety precaution and show concern for others are selfishly whining about people who are vaccinated getting "extra benefits". Is it really a coincidence that states lagging behind in vaccines given are basically the same states where hospitals and emergency services are being overrun by new cases and the majority of patients are not vaccinated?

Indiana University students sue over vaccine requirement

Eight students involved in the lawsuit range from incoming freshmen to Ph.D. and law students at the university.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Conflicting information on that point .

NO. That FACT was reported in Rick Doyal's article in the Indy Star Sunday morning.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Yes, I have a friend who is a liver transplant recipient. She has been vaccinated, twice, yet her antibody levels are zero. She's among those that need the rest of us to not be stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Injecting experimental cocktails into your body is stupid, unless you buy meth, fentanyl and heroin and inject that.

In that case, I'm all for you doing, you know, that thing.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Stupid is as stupid does.

Injecting experimental cocktails into your body is stupid, unless you buy meth, fentanyl and heroin and inject that.

In that case, I'm all for you doing, you know, that thing.

So, you got the vaccine years ago.

 

[UncleMark]

Trump doing his Mussolini poses are legend. The best was when he got back from the hospital, stood on the balcony and took off his mask, and started guppy breathing.