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Are Trump's beautiful tariffs

Was doing nothing a viable option? The do nothing risk averse policies of the last few decades was eroding our heavy industry, worsening the opportunities for high-paying dirty jobs, increasing income and wealth imbalance, driving deficit spending, increasing trade imbalance and increasing our debt load at a skyrocketing rate.

As far as tariffs is concerned, they are simply a consumption tax on imports that state and local governments impose on all goods and services. If the tariff revenue offsets no income tax on tips, overtime, and social security, ( blue collar and low income taxpayers) tariffs are not a big problem.

We must execute a course change.


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One thing I like about Trump 2.0 compared to the earlier version is the mostly outstanding team he has put together.

Scott Bessent:

“Access to cheap goods is not the essence of the American Dream. The American Dream is rooted in the concept that any citizen can achieve prosperity, upward mobility, and economic security. For too long, the designers of multilateral trade deals have lost sight of this. International economic relations that do not work for the American people must be re-examined.

This is what tariffs are designed to address – leveling the playing field such that the international trading system begins to reward ingenuity, security, rule of law, and stability, not wage suppression, currency manipulation, intellectual property theft, non-tariff barriers and draconian regulations. To the extent that another country's practices harm our own economy and people the United States will respond. This is the America First Trade Policy.

We are identifying bad actors across a range of criteria, not just tariffs applied to our exports, but also non-tariff barriers, laws which unfairly apply fines to our exporters, government policies which undercut global competition and suppress wages and currency manipulation that enables persistent trade surpluses.

These are not the only metrics in which our global trading partners should be scored. That is increased burden sharing on security is critical amongst friendly nations. No longer should American tax dollars, American military equipment, and in some cases, American lives, be the sole bearers of upholding friendly trade and mutual security. Burden sharing is not a matter of offloading risk, but a matter of all benefiting parties having interest in the system. The shared interest ultimately strengthens the international system as the cost of disruption outweigh any benefits of dissolution.;”

I think your no plan comment is mostly hogwash.
Hegseth, Waltz and RFK Jr.?
 
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I need to buy a lottery ticket. I was 100% somebody would post those three names. I was 90% certain it would be you. Others would just post an emogi.
They are objectively bad. If Republican Senators had any balls they wouldn’t have confirmed Hegseth and RFK (a loony moonbat). Waltz’s irresponsibility was a surprise, there’s isn’t.
 
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Of course the numbers are a compilation. Any dolt would know that. The amount of tariffs vary by product.. Some countries ban some U.S. products. The point is that our producers face very significant trade barriers that we don’t impose on others.
Why is honesty not an option?
 
Of course the numbers are a compilation. Any dolt would know that. The amount of tariffs vary by product.. Some countries ban some U.S. products. The point is that our producers face very significant trade barriers that we don’t impose on others.
Oh you freaking idiot. We just showed you where the numbers came from. Just stop the charade.
 
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Do you deny that the numbers they put up on that poster were not what they claimed they were?
Actually you are partly correct and I stand corrected.

The chart itself states that the figure includes tariffs (which must be the compilation I mentioned) plus the value of other barriers to U.S. imports that includes currency manipulation and value-added taxes and bans. Theystart with the trade deficit. That’s not a deception, it’s stated on the chart and in the WH statement.
 
Actually you are partly correct and I stand corrected.

The chart itself states that the figure includes tariffs (which must be the compilation I mentioned) plus the value of other barriers to U.S. imports that includes currency manipulation and value-added taxes and bans. Theystart with the trade deficit. That’s not a deception, it’s stated on the chart and in the WH statement.
It wasn't stated in the speech. Those were claimed to be tariffs in the speech. How many people listen to the speech compared to reading the statement put out sheepishly after, do you think?
 
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already working? A lot would say the most beautiful tariffs ever. 😁





I would tamper down doom and gloom until the hard data is actually bad. There's a lot of media fud right now and when the 3rd place finisher at Moose's Tuesday bingo night is telling you to sell all your stocks because the world is ending, you might want to fade the advice.

LOL, yay a few thousand manufacturing jobs while the economy is going into recession
 
Also, to be fair, the recession will be over long before any of those manufacturing jobs actually materialize.

Not sure I agree with that. Assuming ZH data is accurate (which is a suspect assumption), manufacturing net jobs gains are already occurring. I would think the recession will last at least another quarter.
 
Sure. Caught a few in my time. But nobody is ever perfect in timing. Hence my message of DCA.

I'm on a thing called "a budget". My income is barely matching my expenses. I'm frugal, with spreadsheets. Was hoping to replace a deck this year...nope. In fact, I think I'll be withholding all of my nonessential purchases. I know lots of people in my same situation...
Hate to hear that but kudos to you for being responsible. Most people aren't. They'd replace the deck, add a Traeger, and then be screwed when they need new tires.
 
I'm on a thing called "a budget". My income is barely matching my expenses. I'm frugal, with spreadsheets. Was hoping to replace a deck this year...nope. In fact, I think I'll be withholding all of my nonessential purchases. I know lots of people in my same situation...

Everyone will hunker down. And when you've got an economy that's 70% driven by consumer spending it's not going to be good.

The ones on the margin are going to have it worst. Hold on to what you have and good luck.
 
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