he's a clown because he lost a game at home to Nebraska? oh man, he'll have to lose more games like before anyone who knows anything thinks he's a clown. ahh -- but you and the rest of the teenagers are done with IU. cool.
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he's a clown because he lost a game at home to Nebraska? oh man, he'll have to lose more games like before anyone who knows anything thinks he's a clown. ahh -- but you and the rest of the teenagers are done with IU. cool.
Did you forget about Indiana State at home by 30? How about IPFW by 20+? Remember those? How about that outstanding Rutgers team?
oh, you didn't think last year's team would lose some weird ones? Were you rafting with Harry C Good and away from scores the year before that?
but hey -- IU got handled at Purdue. it's your time to shine!
Archie did not inherit a good team. And what about Gregg Marshall? He killed it at Winthrop but didn't even make the tourney until year 5 and Wichita St and went to the FF in year 6. He's another system coach much like Bennett and Archie. Or John Beilein who was very mediocre at UM the first 5 seasons. Again, I'm not proclaiming Archie to be the next Bob Knight. Maybe he is just a mediocre coach. But maybe he's a very good one that simply needs time to implement his system.
Yeah the biggest challenge is the stupid Indiana fans.
I have not seen any thing yet in 1.5 years that makes me think he is a good coach.
Did any of those guys inherit 2 all conference players including a lottery pick, as well as 10 other top 150 players?
I live in Dayton, OH and have had season tickets to UD basketball for many years. Did you not research the talent, or lack of it that Archie had in Dayton? Did you see what he did with those kids? Elite 8, 4 straight NCAA Appearances? Beating O$U in the NCAA tournament? He took a team of only 7 players (his big-man was a walk-on and no one was taller than 6' 7") to the second day of the NCAA tournament. Maybe if 'IU Fan' could stand behind their coach and give him the support he and the team need the glass would be 'half full'. Obviously its not about talent or coaching with him but 'IU Fan' is known far-and-wide for running every coach out of town since Bobby Knight
Sometimes you make 16-16 free throws and still manage to lose because of other deficiencies. (Maryland)
Would Juwan have developed into the player he is today for Crean? I don’t know, but he certainly wasn’t all conference when Crean was here.
side note: marshall's wichita st team not going to the dance this year
So just who did Archie inherit that was all-conference in 2016-17?
10 Top-150 players? Didn't you say this about Villanova?
So you make a point about how another team doesn't win without talent - but then expect Archie to win with "10 Top-150 players"?
Only 3 players on this team ever played a game for Tom Crean. It’s a ridiculous excuse. They’re Archie’s players.
Juwan
De’Ron
Devonte
Zach
That’s 4.
Then the Crean recruits - Smith, Moore & Durham.
But don’t let facts get in your way . . .
McRoberts is a walk on. Only 3 scholarship players ever played for Crean. The other 10 are Archie’s.
Crean never spent one second of practice with Smith, Moore, or Durham. Archie and staff are solely responsible for their development.
Yeah, McBob is a walk-on - and a rotation player. Speaks volumes to the lack of experience and talent on this team that a walk-on and the 230th-ranked player are main contributors.
Again, you said ‘Nova isn’t winning with 3 stars - but you expect that from Archie. After only 1-1/2 seasons.
Responsible for their development? You’ve never played, have you? Because you’d understand how trying to run meaningful practice with the injuries we’ve had has hampered development.
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I don't know why you still bother arguing with this troll because he is not worth it. If you don't want to mess with these trolls there are better places to discuss IU basketball rationally than this place. Just in the last couple of days I have seen a few from here come over because they can't stand dealing with these negative posters.
No, maybe not. But he will get to 500 wins next year at over 0.72 winning percentage. That is a remarkable record of success for having very few highly ranked players.
Yes, development. Durham has made huge shooting improvements over last season.
But any player recruited by a previous coach often has a different understanding of how they will be used within a team. Obviously, Curtis Jones, for example, didn't fit what Archie wanted to do.
Smith has been up and down. There have been some problems with committing to play as hard as he is being asked to play. And yet, he is one of the most veteran guys under Miller as only a sophomore.
“Remarkable”?
The man coaches in the Missouri Valley Conference. - which has been no higher than the 7th best conference nationally over his tenure at Wichita St, ranked 10-12 most years.
Marshall is a pretty good coach, but his won/loss record isn’t anything remarkable considering who it’s been achieved against.
