he's 38 ... could be here for 25 years. Extremely promising, played at a high level, and comes from a coaching family. He is ready to make his mark. In two years he would have been eating us alive at OSU ... we beat them out for once. He can coach and he's likeable. It is a great hire, period
Anyone that doesn't like this hire is a moron ...
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Similar things said in 2008. Young coach (42), Big Ten roots, Final Four on his resume, could be here 25 years. yada yada.
Lol....Jesus dude, you are going to set a record.
Very true, there are no guarantees in life, which is why the OP of this thread and his comments are moronic.
His teams play defense.
He isn't a weirdo.
He's taken Dayton to the tourney 4 yrs in a row.
He isn't a weirdo.
His teams value the ball.
He isn't a weirdo.
He made the elite 8 at Dayton
He wears pants that fit.
He's a real basketball coach from a basketball family.
He's not a salesman.
His teams have overcome injuries.
He doesn't blame injuries.
He's regarded as one of the best young coaches in the nation.
He's never switched defense mid-possession.
He can play with a lead of 4 with 3 minutes to go.
He's not a weirdo.
He isn't a weirdo.
He's taken Dayton to the tourney 4 yrs in a row.
He isn't a weirdo.
His teams value the ball.
He isn't a weirdo.
He made the elite 8 at Dayton
He wears pants that fit.
He's a real basketball coach from a basketball family.
He's not a salesman.
His teams have overcome injuries.
He doesn't blame injuries.
He's regarded as one of the best young coaches in the nation.
He's never switched defense mid-possession.
He can play with a lead of 4 with 3 minutes to go.
He's not a weirdo.
Agreed that it's not a sure thing. I'm not expecting to place 1st and 2nd every year just b/c it is IU. Heck, hiring BD would not have been a sure thing. (I think Stevens would have been a sure thing, but who knows...) Archie has a chance to lead IU back so let's enjoy it.
Ohio State fans I have spoken to are pi**ed. They wanted Archie badly. I love the choice.
Nothing is a sure thing. That said, anyone have a link to an article or message board that tells us how lackluster Archie is, as was the case in 2008 with Crean?
After the NBA longshot guys, there was a group of about 6 guys that were pretty much neck and neck. We got one of them.
After the NBA longshot guys, there was a group of about 6 guys that were pretty much neck and neck. We got one of them.
Stop comparing the two you idiot. This is why I said The IU fans can never be united. Just get behind the new coach and stop crying about it.
Kentucky fans are upset too. They viewed Archie as a potential successor to Calipari.
What? Some idiot made this same remark the other day. I went back and looked, he just got like a 10 year extension the 18 months prior to leaving them. Please, deal with facts.
https://marquettewire.org/2439379/tribune/tribune-news/crean-signs-contract-extension/
There are a slew of Kentucky fans laughing their heads off right now, too. Kentucky wasn't going to hire a mid major coach. They will go after a big dog, likely land Donovan or someone of that level.
The comparisons, according to the media and experts are aligned. Only difference is Crean had a Final Four, Archie doesn't.
Who cares that correct information was provided? Obviously you don't, and that is not surprising.
Jones, I bet you're a big hit at the office, what with that contagious charisma and unflappable optimism! So many people on this board are real downers. It's nice for such a refreshing perspective! What's your secret? Is it simply being able to look at the world and see all the angles, or is there a special pill you take?
Because it is impossible to have tremendous optimism at work, family, church, but also have pessimism for a program that can't shoot straight for 30 years. Impossible.
A quick look for "Fire Archie Miller" led to a UNLV forum posting placed cheekily in advance. Otherwise, most of the search results discuss Archie in terms of replacing someone who was/is/should be fired.
What I find interesting is that he has been in the conversation for many coaching jobs, but remained at Dayton. Was he not offered in the end? Did he turn them down?
You mean they would never hire a mid-major coach from a place like, say, Memphis?
Who also coached in the NBA and went to two Final Fours at two different schools. I didn't see any of that on Archie's resume, if I had, it would be a home run hire and an elite hire.
You also don't see on Archie's resume two FF runs bounced.
Jones, you make broad statements, then when anyone just looks at them, you bring all sorts of qualifications and special exceptions.
They went to the NCAA tournament that year and lost in OT to a better seed. He wasn't about to be fired. Dumb.
I wasn't referring so much to Marquette but the last 18 months at IU. Guess it was too subtle.
Considering you were quoting a Marquette article and a Marquette extension, yes I guess I couldn't read your mind and the subtle part was too subtle.
I remember Marquette fans coming here and telling us we'd regret hiring Crean. They said he has no clue how to use bigs in his system and he could not coach defense.
All coaches have limitations. Do you think Archie has any?
Care to still say I didn't go to IU, or are you backing off that one now that you were proven wrong?
Good. It wasn't fun watching Matta coach their team knowing IU probably could have had him.
Assuming BD and Stevens are off the table who would you have liked to see get the job?
"His teams play defense."
Enlighten me on this point and make me feel better. How do his teams stack up in points given up per game, defensive efficiency, turnovers etc. If you're right about this, I'd like to hear more.
According to the SI article, Dayton has ranked 31, 15, 41 in terms of kenpom's defensive efficiency metric.
Thanks. Obviously, I don't even have to look them up to think those rankings are better than IU's the past few years.
Do you think any of those rankings are skewed by playing in Dayton's conference instead of the Big Ten?
