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Anybody have an opinion on Chris Jans

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from Mississippi State? He would most likely do better (not saying much) than Woodson ever would at IU. He is 55 and moved around and landing at IU would be the icing on his cake for his career.
 
I'm not up to speed on his style of play. I wouldn't be opposed to him being on a list. He's obviously won at each of his stops.

My ever changing list, as of Christmas Eve...

1. Stevens...sorry, I'm going to include him on every search list we have. And I do think there's enough that's changed since he "listened" to Dolson's pitch roughly 4 years ago, that he should be on any IU list. Not the least of which, his two kids are now in college, and one of them is playing basketball at Notre Dame. Maybe he'd be excited to coach him as a walk on at IU? But also, he has to feel like he's completed his rebuild successfully in Boston. And maybe he's now ready to finish his career, and add the biggest thing he could possibly add to his legacy...bringing IU basketball "back". Its obviously far fetched, but I honestly think its less far fetched than it was when he did consider it, 4 years ago.

2. McCollum... I'm digging in more on him. And liking what I'm finding, and seeing...A LOT. It'll be interesting to see how his Drake team finishes the season out, and if he can make some noise in March. But he won big in D2, he brought some D2 talent with him to Drake and is winning there now. Indiana should be a big step up, so not sure if he could pull a Cig and bring some Drake players to IU, and mirror that success...but obviously he's having success with "lesser talent"...and I suspect its because they know his program, and are able to execute it at a high level. Bring Stirtz with you, maybe another kid, and pair them with some national level talent...and your obvious winning program... Could be immediately successful at IU.

3. DeVries... Basically similar to everything I said about McCollum above. I wonder if DeVries son would get a 5th year if he wanted to come to IU? Are we beyond Covid year considerations? Even if not, he's beaten Gonzaga and Arizona already this year... he was obviously successful at Drake. It'll be interesting to see what he does in the B12 this year. If he makes the NCAA's, then makes some noise in the NCAAs, I think that'd be enough evidence he'd likely be successful, quickly, at IU, as well.

4. Crutchfield... D2 coach right now killing it. Team plays a very uptempo style. I gotta think that style, combined with his proven college winning programs, then combined with IU's resources, would lead to excitement and success. Obviously a risk, with no D1 experience. But again, style of play, proven success against his college peers, and IU's resources...I'd feel pretty comfortable he'd win at IU.

5. Pearl... of all the current high major coaches, he combines the style, success, proven ability to recruit, etc... If you're going after current college big fish, he'd be at the top of the list.

More realistic, current college coaches, with historical success... Matta, Beard, maybe Jans, Louisville's coach (not sure he'd leave LVille for IU?), Shaka Smart maybe. Dusty May potentially as well, but I'm not as sold on him. He's giving off Crean vibes to me.
 
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3. I think we are in the last year for COVID year eligibility. That's why we still have Leal and Galloway.
 
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3. I think we are in the last year for COVID year eligibility. That's why we still have Leal and Galloway.
So Tucker DeVries is playing is last year of college right now? He’s in his 4th year. Hard to keep up with the rules these days.
 
So Tucker DeVries is playing is last year of college right now? He’s in his 4th year. Hard to keep up with the rules these days.
With 2025/26 we are back to "5 years to play 4" i.e. allowing for a redshirt year. Maybe there are still some other hardship allowances but from what I have read the class of 2025 is the last one that had the extra COVID year.
 
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I'm not up to speed on his style of play. I wouldn't be opposed to him being on a list. He's obviously won at each of his stops.

My ever changing list, as of Christmas Eve...

1. Stevens...sorry, I'm going to include him on every search list we have. And I do think there's enough that's changed since he "listened" to Dolson's pitch roughly 4 years ago, that he should be on any IU list. Not the least of which, his two kids are now in college, and one of them is playing basketball at Notre Dame. Maybe he'd be excited to coach him as a walk on at IU? But also, he has to feel like he's completed his rebuild successfully in Boston. And maybe he's now ready to finish his career, and add the biggest thing he could possibly add to his legacy...bringing IU basketball "back". Its obviously far fetched, but I honestly think its less far fetched than it was when he did consider it, 4 years ago.

2. McCollum... I'm digging in more on him. And liking what I'm finding, and seeing...A LOT. It'll be interesting to see how his Drake team finishes the season out, and if he can make some noise in March. But he won big in D2, he brought some D2 talent with him to Drake and is winning there now. Indiana should be a big step up, so not sure if he could pull a Cig and bring some Drake players to IU, and mirror that success...but obviously he's having success with "lesser talent"...and I suspect its because they know his program, and are able to execute it at a high level. Bring Stirtz with you, maybe another kid, and pair them with some national level talent...and your obvious winning program... Could be immediately successful at IU.

3. DeVries... Basically similar to everything I said about McCollum above. I wonder if DeVries son would get a 5th year if he wanted to come to IU? Are we beyond Covid year considerations? Even if not, he's beaten Gonzaga and Arizona already this year... he was obviously successful at Drake. It'll be interesting to see what he does in the B12 this year. If he makes the NCAA's, then makes some noise in the NCAAs, I think that'd be enough evidence he'd likely be successful, quickly, at IU, as well.

4. Crutchfield... D2 coach right now killing it. Team plays a very uptempo style. I gotta think that style, combined with his proven college winning programs, then combined with IU's resources, would lead to excitement and success. Obviously a risk, with no D1 experience. But again, style of play, proven success against his college peers, and IU's resources...I'd feel pretty comfortable he'd win at IU.

5. Pearl... of all the current high major coaches, he combines the style, success, proven ability to recruit, etc... If you're going after current college big fish, he'd be at the top of the list.

More realistic, current college coaches, with historical success... Matta, Beard, maybe Jans, Louisville's coach (not sure he'd leave LVille for IU?), Shaka Smart maybe. Dusty May potentially as well, but I'm not as sold on him. He's giving off Crean vibes to me.
Re choice #1….a boy can dream, right?

Sorry, wish I could muster a shred of belief. Fool me once, ….
 
I'm not up to speed on his style of play. I wouldn't be opposed to him being on a list. He's obviously won at each of his stops.

My ever changing list, as of Christmas Eve...

1. Stevens...sorry, I'm going to include him on every search list we have. And I do think there's enough that's changed since he "listened" to Dolson's pitch roughly 4 years ago, that he should be on any IU list. Not the least of which, his two kids are now in college, and one of them is playing basketball at Notre Dame. Maybe he'd be excited to coach him as a walk on at IU? But also, he has to feel like he's completed his rebuild successfully in Boston. And maybe he's now ready to finish his career, and add the biggest thing he could possibly add to his legacy...bringing IU basketball "back". Its obviously far fetched, but I honestly think its less far fetched than it was when he did consider it, 4 years ago.

2. McCollum... I'm digging in more on him. And liking what I'm finding, and seeing...A LOT. It'll be interesting to see how his Drake team finishes the season out, and if he can make some noise in March. But he won big in D2, he brought some D2 talent with him to Drake and is winning there now. Indiana should be a big step up, so not sure if he could pull a Cig and bring some Drake players to IU, and mirror that success...but obviously he's having success with "lesser talent"...and I suspect its because they know his program, and are able to execute it at a high level. Bring Stirtz with you, maybe another kid, and pair them with some national level talent...and your obvious winning program... Could be immediately successful at IU.

3. DeVries... Basically similar to everything I said about McCollum above. I wonder if DeVries son would get a 5th year if he wanted to come to IU? Are we beyond Covid year considerations? Even if not, he's beaten Gonzaga and Arizona already this year... he was obviously successful at Drake. It'll be interesting to see what he does in the B12 this year. If he makes the NCAA's, then makes some noise in the NCAAs, I think that'd be enough evidence he'd likely be successful, quickly, at IU, as well.

4. Crutchfield... D2 coach right now killing it. Team plays a very uptempo style. I gotta think that style, combined with his proven college winning programs, then combined with IU's resources, would lead to excitement and success. Obviously a risk, with no D1 experience. But again, style of play, proven success against his college peers, and IU's resources...I'd feel pretty comfortable he'd win at IU.

5. Pearl... of all the current high major coaches, he combines the style, success, proven ability to recruit, etc... If you're going after current college big fish, he'd be at the top of the list.

More realistic, current college coaches, with historical success... Matta, Beard, maybe Jans, Louisville's coach (not sure he'd leave LVille for IU?), Shaka Smart maybe. Dusty May potentially as well, but I'm not as sold on him. He's giving off Crean vibes to me.
why would Pearl leave Auburn
 
why would Pearl leave Auburn
He probably wouldn’t. But as bad as IU has been, it is one of only a few schools in the country where a coach of Pearls caliber could create a real national legacy. He could win back to back nattys at Auburn, and I’m not sure he’d be remembered outside the state of Alabama 5 years later.
 
He probably wouldn’t. But as bad as IU has been, it is one of only a few schools in the country where a coach of Pearls caliber could create a real national legacy. He could win back to back nattys at Auburn, and I’m not sure he’d be remembered outside the state of Alabama 5 years later.
outside the state of alabama.....or....even inside the state of alabama?! haha
 
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I'm not up to speed on his style of play. I wouldn't be opposed to him being on a list. He's obviously won at each of his stops.

My ever changing list, as of Christmas Eve...

1. Stevens...sorry, I'm going to include him on every search list we have. And I do think there's enough that's changed since he "listened" to Dolson's pitch roughly 4 years ago, that he should be on any IU list. Not the least of which, his two kids are now in college, and one of them is playing basketball at Notre Dame. Maybe he'd be excited to coach him as a walk on at IU? But also, he has to feel like he's completed his rebuild successfully in Boston. And maybe he's now ready to finish his career, and add the biggest thing he could possibly add to his legacy...bringing IU basketball "back". Its obviously far fetched, but I honestly think its less far fetched than it was when he did consider it, 4 years ago.

2. McCollum... I'm digging in more on him. And liking what I'm finding, and seeing...A LOT. It'll be interesting to see how his Drake team finishes the season out, and if he can make some noise in March. But he won big in D2, he brought some D2 talent with him to Drake and is winning there now. Indiana should be a big step up, so not sure if he could pull a Cig and bring some Drake players to IU, and mirror that success...but obviously he's having success with "lesser talent"...and I suspect its because they know his program, and are able to execute it at a high level. Bring Stirtz with you, maybe another kid, and pair them with some national level talent...and your obvious winning program... Could be immediately successful at IU.

3. DeVries... Basically similar to everything I said about McCollum above. I wonder if DeVries son would get a 5th year if he wanted to come to IU? Are we beyond Covid year considerations? Even if not, he's beaten Gonzaga and Arizona already this year... he was obviously successful at Drake. It'll be interesting to see what he does in the B12 this year. If he makes the NCAA's, then makes some noise in the NCAAs, I think that'd be enough evidence he'd likely be successful, quickly, at IU, as well.

4. Crutchfield... D2 coach right now killing it. Team plays a very uptempo style. I gotta think that style, combined with his proven college winning programs, then combined with IU's resources, would lead to excitement and success. Obviously a risk, with no D1 experience. But again, style of play, proven success against his college peers, and IU's resources...I'd feel pretty comfortable he'd win at IU.

5. Pearl... of all the current high major coaches, he combines the style, success, proven ability to recruit, etc... If you're going after current college big fish, he'd be at the top of the list.

More realistic, current college coaches, with historical success... Matta, Beard, maybe Jans, Louisville's coach (not sure he'd leave LVille for IU?), Shaka Smart maybe. Dusty May potentially as well, but I'm not as sold on him. He's giving off Crean vibes to me.
Yeah, I like your list. If we cannot get Brad then a younger up and coming coach that will be here 25 years would be great.
 
Chris Jans's NCAA Tournament record is 1-5.

New Mexico State University:

  • 2017–18 Season:
    • Seed: No. 12
    • First Round: Lost to No. 5 seed Clemson, 79–68.
  • 2018–19 Season:
    • Seed: No. 12
    • First Round: Lost to No. 5 seed Auburn, 78–77.
  • 2021–22 Season:
    • Seed: No. 12
    • First Round: Defeated No. 5 seed Connecticut, 70–63.
    • Second Round: Lost to No. 4 seed Arkansas, 53–48.
Mississippi State University:

  • 2022–23 Season:
    • Seed: No. 11 (First Four)
    • First Four: Lost to No. 11 seed Rutgers, 60–57.
  • 2023–24 Season:
    • Seed: No. 10
    • First Round: Lost to No. 7 seed Michigan State, 69–62.
 
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The majority of all successful college basketball coaches have something that would turn-off the morally superior segment of our fanbase. Even I admit this is one off-putting.

In most cases, I prefer someone that's skinned their knees on the way to excellence. The resilience to do that tells me theyre tough. Tough coach, tough team every year. Talent will vary and injuries will happen but an identity of toughness should be our brand at Indiana University. We like Cignetti for more than just the wins.
 
Chris Jans's NCAA Tournament record is 1-5.

New Mexico State University:

  • 2017–18 Season:
    • Seed: No. 12
    • First Round: Lost to No. 5 seed Clemson, 79–68.
  • 2018–19 Season:
    • Seed: No. 12
    • First Round: Lost to No. 5 seed Auburn, 78–77.
  • 2021–22 Season:
    • Seed: No. 12
    • First Round: Defeated No. 5 seed Connecticut, 70–63.
    • Second Round: Lost to No. 4 seed Arkansas, 53–48.
Mississippi State University:

  • 2022–23 Season:
    • Seed: No. 11 (First Four)
    • First Four: Lost to No. 11 seed Rutgers, 60–57.
  • 2023–24 Season:
    • Seed: No. 10
    • First Round: Lost to No. 7 seed Michigan State, 69–62.
What's IU's record in Ncaa's those same years?
 
What's IU's record in Ncaa's those same years?
Doesn't matter. The job is measured to a standard, not relative to current futility.

Jans has been very mediocre against good teams. His NCAA record shows it.

That would be very frustrating for IU fans.

But admittedly, we all tend to know our own conference a lot better than others. Everyone understands who Underwood is. Some of these guys, like Jan's, I've barely seen their games. Maybe twice. I'm basing my opinion on his stats.
 
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Doesn't matter. The job is measured to a standard, not relative to current futility.

Jans has been very mediocre against good teams. His NCAA record shows it.

That would be very frustrating for IU fans.

But admittedly, we all tend to know our own conference a lot better than others. Everyone understands who Underwood is. Some of these guys, like Jan's, I've barely seen their games. Maybe twice. I'm basing my opinion on his stats.
Umm I think his 1-3 against ncaa teams at NMSU is pretty solid compared to what they had been. He went 0-2 in toss ups while in the SEC. I believe he would do just fine.
 
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