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And isn't it fitting Smith's man beats him for the jam

Smith got faked out on the slip screen. Green passed a ball to Morgan's ankles, Romeo got in the way of the final shot. List can go on, simply too many mistakes.
 
Why does Smith remind me of Troy Williams? So much potential, but intent on playing to their weaknesses.
 
There is no comparison between Troy Williams and Justin Smith. Troy certainly had flaws but he is considerably better.

Hope Justin keeps developing and fast.
 
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Hedging....how did Bobby ever coach defense without it?
Justin did what he is taught to do...hedge then chase your man from behind and hope your teammates rotate before they can dunk...
Its a puzzling defensive strategy that tends to accumulate needless fouls for big men 30 feet from the basket...cause teammates to rotate and chase until we give up a wide open shot..
OR GIVE UP A DUNK ON THE SLIP SCREEN
 
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Hedging....how did Bobby ever coach defense without it?
Justin did what he is taught to do...hedge then chase your man from behind and hope your teammates rotate before they can dunk...
Its a puzzling defensive strategy that tends to accumulate needless fouls for big men 30 feet from the basket...cause teammates to rotate and chase until we give up a wide open shot..
OR GIVE UP A DUNK ON THE SLIP SCREEN


Watch the play again. He didn't 'hedge', he jumped the screen and got himself completely out of the picture. The screener was smart enough to realize Smith was out in space, and dove to the basket. It would be interesting to know whether they anticipated Smith would screw it up, and that was the actual play call, or if the guy just reacted to what he saw. The OSU coach is probably too polite to rub it in if it was the former.

Romeo as usual was too slow to react, but had he done so at most he would have been able to contest at the rim or foul.

The play was 90% Smith's screw-up, 10% Romeo's.
 
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It would be interesting to know whether they anticipated Smith would screw it up, and that was the actual play call, or if the guy just reacted to what he saw.
It was the actual play call. Holtmann was on Dakich's show this afternoon and said so.
He said he wanted to run it twice earlier in the 2nd half, but one of his assistants held him off.
 
Smith basically lost that game, alone. Terrible player, doesn't care either. If he doesn't transfer or get buried on the bench next season, there will be no hope.
Oh so I guess Smith prevented Morgan from scoring more than three points. I guess Smith caused Langford to get the ball stolen more than once. I guess Smith was the only one to miss three point shots. I guess Smith is the one who can't stay in front of his man. The problem with Smith is he helps too much. Then again if he didn't help and stayed on his man you bunch of bitches would say he isn't playing defense anyway. I know you idiots need to get your heads out of your asses and stop being a bunch of bitches. I think basketball is a team sport and you win and lose as a team. It's not one player, or the refs but the team as a whole. Like I said before that a lot of you on here need to stfu. It's getting old and isn't doing anyone any good.
 
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Oh so I guess Smith prevented Morgan from scoring more than three points. I guess Smith caused Langford to get the ball stolen more than once. I guess Smith was the only one to miss three point shots. I guess Smith is the one who can't stay in front of his man. The problem with Smith is he helps too much. Then again if he didn't help and stayed on his man you bunch of bitches would say he isn't playing defense anyway. I know you idiots need to get your heads out of your asses and stop being a bunch of bitches. I think basketball is a team sport and you win and lose as a team. It's not one player, or the refs but the team as a whole. Like I said before that a lot of you on here need to stfu. It's getting old and isn't doing anyone any good.


Smith is a bad BB player. It's not a one game scenario, but 2 full seasons worth. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.
 
Smith is a bad BB player. It's not a one game scenario, but 2 full seasons worth. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.
Yeah and Morgan was so ****ing good his first two years. That's just dumb. You act like freshman and sophmores are suppose to be so dam good. He went from Crean's system to Archie's so don't give me that shit. I bet you've never played basketball in your life. Just one of those couch coaches that think they know everything.
 
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Smith basically lost that game, alone. Terrible player, doesn't care either. If he doesn't transfer or get buried on the bench next season, there will be no hope.
He might be the worst basketball player in the conference, hopefully he's at Indiana State next year. Also, his loudmouth dad is a major part of the chemistry problem that has taken over the team during this stretch.
 
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Oh so I guess Smith prevented Morgan from scoring more than three points. I guess Smith caused Langford to get the ball stolen more than once. I guess Smith was the only one to miss three point shots. I guess Smith is the one who can't stay in front of his man. The problem with Smith is he helps too much. Then again if he didn't help and stayed on his man you bunch of bitches would say he isn't playing defense anyway. I know you idiots need to get your heads out of your asses and stop being a bunch of bitches. I think basketball is a team sport and you win and lose as a team. It's not one player, or the refs but the team as a whole. Like I said before that a lot of you on here need to stfu. It's getting old and isn't doing anyone any good.
Hello Mr. Smith, it would probably be best for the team if you stay off twitter.
 
That was Langford's coverage inside in Archie's defense.
Does Archie’s defense say to over-jump a screen - especially one that hasn’t been set yet - out BEYOND the 3-point arc?

I will agree Romeo should have been further toward the center of the lane. Without question that’s on him. But the catalyst in that defensive breakdown was Smith.

This was the 3rd straight game his not reading the play or executing properly killed us. Bohannon hit big shots at the end of the 1st half and during crunch time, and Michigan St was able to come back late and tie it because of the same bs.

To his credit, he did get the block on Winston. But he relies far too much on athleticism instead of reading the play right and being in position. Would love to see him buy in on playing the pack line (he obviously hasn’t) because he’s the ideal athlete to play it.

All that athleticism doesn’t matter if you kill the rest of the defense. Wouldn’t be a bit dissapointed if he transfers out come March.
 
Yeah and Morgan was so ****ing good his first two years. That's just dumb. You act like freshman and sophmores are suppose to be so dam good. He went from Crean's system to Archie's so don't give me that shit. I bet you've never played basketball in your life. Just one of those couch coaches that think they know everything.

Smith never played a minute in Crean's system. WTF are you talking about?

Also, are you related to him somehow? I have seen you lash out at people going after Justin several times and you always seem to be most vociferous in your defense of him. Given Justin's Dad's big mouth on Twitter earlier in the year, it honestly would not surprise me if you were one and the same. If so, I truly suggest that it would be best for you (and Justin) to stay out of IU basketball related social media. Being a parent and seeing your kid get ragged on has to be rough, but you do no one any favors by getting on social media to argue.
 
Really good analysis by Inside the Hall on issues caused by Smith's play.


Wow....that's brutal. That's definitely worth a look by anyone who wants to ID this team's problems.

If Smith had to be out there, CAM should have parked his butt as close to the basket as possible, barely out of the lane. Had he done that, he would have given the three outside guys room to play three on three, and possibly would have kept Wesson even closer to the basket.

The way things were, Smith was occupying a large chunk of real estate 22 feet from the basket. We couldn't have a productive player in that spot due to spacing issues. It thus took 1/4 of the perimeter space away from use by more productive players.

You could even have moved Morgan out to occupy that space, and just kept Smith down low. That would have been better than what CAM did.

I'm really bothered that CAM didn't have alternatives ready that didn't involve Smith standing out on the court shrinking available space. This type of defensive plan was 100% predictable. The only rationale I can think of is that CAM didn't want to tick off Smith/destroy his 'spirit' by essentially telling him to stay as close to the basket as possible.
 
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Smith never played a minute in Crean's system. WTF are you talking about?

Also, are you related to him somehow? I have seen you lash out at people going after Justin several times and you always seem to be most vociferous in your defense of him. Given Justin's Dad's big mouth on Twitter earlier in the year, it honestly would not surprise me if you were one and the same. If so, I truly suggest that it would be best for you (and Justin) to stay out of IU basketball related social media. Being a parent and seeing your kid get ragged on has to be rough, but you do no one any favors by getting on social media to argue.
My bad I meant he recruited him. Archie didn't recruit Smith. Coaches want players that fit their system so if he hadn't committed to Crean then Archie may not have recruited him.
 
Yeah and Morgan was so ****ing good his first two years. That's just dumb. You act like freshman and sophmores are suppose to be so dam good. He went from Crean's system to Archie's so don't give me that shit. I bet you've never played basketball in your life. Just one of those couch coaches that think they know everything.
I agree with what you say about it not being only one player and that players can improve. That said, you're still as much of a think skinned a-hole as you were in previous posts. I worry about your blood pressure when you read these boards.
 
Oh a genius comment. It may be best if all you so called Indiana fans stop whining all the time.
IU has lost 9 of their last 10 games and have played with zero heart in the process. People are right to be concerned as this is an IU fan board, if you don't want to read it then don't.
 
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Hedging....how did Bobby ever coach defense without it?
Justin did what he is taught to do...hedge then chase your man from behind and hope your teammates rotate before they can dunk...
Its a puzzling defensive strategy that tends to accumulate needless fouls for big men 30 feet from the basket...cause teammates to rotate and chase until we give up a wide open shot..
OR GIVE UP A DUNK ON THE SLIP SCREEN
...and the thing is, I see EVERYBODY doing this! I see it on multiple teams in multiple games. I wish someone would explain to me the thinking behind this move, because it looks ridiculous, not to mention completely futile.
 
IU has lost 9 of their last 10 games and have played with zero heart in the process. People are right to be concerned as this is an IU fan board, if you don't want to read it then don't.
You aren’t concerned. You’re blaming one or two people for the losses which is stupid.
 
2 poor performances can lose a close game.
Yeah and so can your supposedly best players scoring a crappy three points. We have two scoring options as of right now and the best one puts up three points. The Hoosiers won't win a game the rest of the year because if I am a team playing them I stack the paint and force them to shoot three's all day.
 
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