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Missed the game due to last minute plans. Looked forward to coming home and rewatching later. While I was out, I saw the halftime score and thought.. “ok, not terrible.” Then the next time I checked we were down 30+.

Wtf happened? I see 33% shooting, 23 turnovers, and what appeared to be a dunk fest by UL.

Was it bad coaching? Low effort? Just a bad shooting night? Same old offense? Mass or bad substitutions (again)? How did IU lose by 30? That is inexcusable.
 
Missed the game due to last minute plans. Looked forward to coming home and rewatching later. While I was out, I saw the halftime score and thought.. “ok, not terrible.” Then the next time I checked we were down 30+.

Wtf happened? I see 33% shooting, 23 turnovers, and what appeared to be a dunk fest by UL.

Was it bad coaching? Low effort? Just a bad shooting night? Same old offense? Mass or bad substitutions (again)? How did IU lose by 30? That is inexcusable.


We made the first basket of the 2nd half. Then they went on an 11-0 run. Sounded like we took several ill-advised shots. We stunk the 1st half, and that's your team's response? There's got to be some bad chemistry here, in addition to Woody's awful coaching.
 
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Missed the game due to last minute plans. Looked forward to coming home and rewatching later. While I was out, I saw the halftime score and thought.. “ok, not terrible.” Then the next time I checked we were down 30+.

Wtf happened? I see 33% shooting, 23 turnovers, and what appeared to be a dunk fest by UL.

Was it bad coaching? Low effort? Just a bad shooting night? Same old offense? Mass or bad substitutions (again)? How did IU lose by 30? That is inexcusable.
Today is a good day to be disgruntled about basketball for at least a couple of hours. Team was lackadaisical in all aspects, like they were out partying all night ..

Everything went wrong... running predictable shit, dumb lineups, pounding ball into Ballo, ignoring MgBako, poor defense against L'ville guards who lived in the lane, unforced errors .. just an overall poor effort from everyone.
 
Missed the game due to last minute plans. Looked forward to coming home and rewatching later. While I was out, I saw the halftime score and thought.. “ok, not terrible.” Then the next time I checked we were down 30+.

Wtf happened? I see 33% shooting, 23 turnovers, and what appeared to be a dunk fest by UL.

Was it bad coaching? Low effort? Just a bad shooting night? Same old offense? Mass or bad substitutions (again)? How did IU lose by 30? That is inexcusable.
That was pretty much the worst basketball game I have ever seen: just full scale incompetence. IU players literally just getting the ball stolen from them, throwing the ball out of bounds, throwing the ball to the other team, playing zero defense, giving zero effort. Just a crap game. They looked like they had never played basketball before.
 
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That was pretty much the worst basketball game I have ever seen: just full scale incompetence. IU players literally just getting the ball stolen from them, throwing the ball out of bounds, throwing the ball to the other team, playing zero defense, giving zero effort. Just a crap game. They looked like they had never played basketball before.
I thought the highlight was the face to face argument. between Goode and Mgbako during the timeout.
 
Missed the game due to last minute plans. Looked forward to coming home and rewatching later. While I was out, I saw the halftime score and thought.. “ok, not terrible.” Then the next time I checked we were down 30+.

Wtf happened? I see 33% shooting, 23 turnovers, and what appeared to be a dunk fest by UL.

Was it bad coaching? Low effort? Just a bad shooting night? Same old offense? Mass or bad substitutions (again)? How did IU lose by 30? That is inexcusable.
Yes… all of those.
 
That was pretty much the worst basketball game I have ever seen: just full scale incompetence. IU players literally just getting the ball stolen from them, throwing the ball out of bounds, throwing the ball to the other team, playing zero defense, giving zero effort. Just a crap game. They looked like they had never played basketball before.
K.

Measured, intelligent analysis out of you barrister.
Commensurate with your alleged education.

Tight pajama pants tonight.
I understand.
Let up on that draw string Matilda.

But I get the trailer angst. It’s real.

You go girl.
 
K.

Measured, intelligent analysis out of you barrister.
Commensurate with your alleged education.

Tight pajama pants tonight.
I understand.
Let up on that draw string Matilda.

But I get the trailer angst. It’s real.

You go girl.
Are you having a stroke or trying to write a worse haiku than hatchet?
 
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Missed the game due to last minute plans. Looked forward to coming home and rewatching later. While I was out, I saw the halftime score and thought.. “ok, not terrible.” Then the next time I checked we were down 30+.

Wtf happened? I see 33% shooting, 23 turnovers, and what appeared to be a dunk fest by UL.

Was it bad coaching? Low effort? Just a bad shooting night? Same old offense? Mass or bad substitutions (again)? How did IU lose by 30? That is inexcusable.
To me, the most significant play was in the second half. We were down roughly 15-18 points and Carlyle was bringing the ball down the floor.

Then, all of a sudden, Carlyle threw a spectacular 70-foot one-handed baseball "pass" to someone I didn't recognize sitting in the fourth row, at least five feet above the head of the closest IU player. No player touched it.

But that wasn't the true play.

The play I'm referring to was immediately following, when Woodson left him in the game! No consequences for horribly bad judgment (by Woodson). No penalties for abandoning the game plan (by Woodson). No discipline by Woodson for stupid play a decent high school coach would not tolerate.

As for Carlyle? He's so valuable he had Zero field goals, Zero free throws, Zero points, 1 rebound and 4 turnovers. Just the kind of player no one thinks should get free rein from the coach to throw a 70-foot pass with absolutely no chance of success.

EDIT TO ADD: Compare that to 5 points in 4 minutes by Anthony Leal.
 
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Missed the game due to last minute plans. Looked forward to coming home and rewatching later. While I was out, I saw the halftime score and thought.. “ok, not terrible.” Then the next time I checked we were down 30+.

Wtf happened? I see 33% shooting, 23 turnovers, and what appeared to be a dunk fest by UL.

Was it bad coaching? Low effort? Just a bad shooting night? Same old offense? Mass or bad substitutions (again)? How did IU lose by 30? That is inexcusable.
I heard the announcers say (in the second half) that IU had not gotten a single point out of its backcourt. A few moments later they noted that Chucky Hepburn had 6 steals.

We offered zero defensive resistance. It was weird watching, like it was an all star game where we were allowing our opponent to make a seasons worth of highlight reel material.

But, back to that comment on zero backcourt scoring. That is supposed to be the difference maker this year. Last season was an utter dumpster fire, but as everyone knows, our boosters paid huge money and now MW has the talent in the backcourt that he has supposedly never had, and no more excuses.

Unless…….
 
I thought the highlight was the face to face argument. between Goode and Mgbako during the timeout.
Several on here have been super critical of Luke Goode and it's one of the things I like about him. He's one of the only guys who appears to care and tries to be a leader. Mbako and Reneau are 2 guys who I think are emotional and have poor body language and then their effort lags, so I didn't see the interaction you are referring to, but if Goode was trying to lead and being critical of what he was seeing, then I think we need more of that and not less. Coach Tonsoni on Assembly Call said he might give one of his game awards to Goode because of that, so sounds like it was.
 
Several on here have been super critical of Luke Goode and it's one of the things I like about him. He's one of the only guys who appears to care and tries to be a leader. Mbako and Reneau are 2 guys who I think are emotional and have poor body language and then their effort lags, so I didn't see the interaction you are referring to, but if Goode was trying to lead and being critical of what he was seeing, then I think we need more of that and not less. Coach Tonsoni on Assembly Call said he might give one of his game awards to Goode because of that, so sounds like it was.
Which game was the one where Knight benched 4 starters? At Illinois? Was it Blab and 4 bench players? My mind is full of cobwebs…

This team needs a major shakeup right now. I’m concerned that we have a bunch of pros and none of them are playing for the name on the front of the jersey.
 
To me, the most significant play was in the second half. We were down roughly 15-18 points and Carlyle was bringing the ball down the floor.

Then, all of a sudden, Carlyle threw a spectacular 70-foot one-handed baseball "pass" to someone I didn't recognize sitting in the fourth row, at least five feet above the head of the closest IU player. No player touched it.

But that wasn't the true play.

The play I'm referring to was immediately following, when Woodson left him in the game! No consequences for horribly bad judgment (by Woodson). No penalties for abandoning the game plan (by Woodson). No discipline by Woodson for stupid play a decent high school coach would not tolerate.

As for Carlyle? He's so valuable he had Zero field goals, Zero free throws, Zero points, 1 rebound and 4 turnovers. Just the kind of player no one thinks should get free rein from the coach to throw a 70-foot pass with absolutely no chance of success.

EDIT TO ADD: Compare that to 5 points in 4 minutes by Anthony Leal.
He hustles on defense but like I said, I believe he will be Robert Johnson 2.0 at best. And thats ok. Not rhe 13-14ppg scorer Chaser and some others believe this season. I hope he can though as IU needs all the help it can get.
 
Which game was the one where Knight benched 4 starters? At Illinois? Was it Blab and 4 bench players? My mind is full of cobwebs…

This team needs a major shakeup right now. I’m concerned that we have a bunch of pros and none of them are playing for the name on the front of the jersey.
I'd guess he did it more than once, but I thought he did that at MN one time ('94?), when we were just getting run. I have a friend that has an amazing memory, and he'll remember the specific season, game and performances. I sort of remember the plays and game results, but outside of the NCs and notable years, I can't remember to that level.
 
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Several on here have been super critical of Luke Goode and it's one of the things I like about him. He's one of the only guys who appears to care and tries to be a leader. Mbako and Reneau are 2 guys who I think are emotional and have poor body language and then their effort lags, so I didn't see the interaction you are referring to, but if Goode was trying to lead and being critical of what he was seeing, then I think we need more of that and not less. Coach Tonsoni on Assembly Call said he might give one of his game awards to Goode because of that, so sounds like it was.
My family was at the game. I said Goode is my new favorite player after that
 
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I'd guess he did it more than once, but I thought he did that at MN one time, when we were just getting run. I have a friend that has an amazing memory, and he'll remember the specific season, game and performances. I sort of remember the plays and game results, but outside of the NCs and notable years, I can't remember to that level.
IIRC, it was the at Illinois game. It wasn’t during a game, it was who started the game.

Point being, we have some players that imho don’t deserve to start today. If they are more interested in (the NBA, partying, their paycheck, etc.), send them a message the old fashioned way.

But, we live in a different world. The reality is we are talking real money here. I’m not sure it’s all on Woodson who starts or plays. The owners have something to say, I’m sure.
 
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I'd guess he did it more than once, but I thought he did that at MN one time, when we were just getting run. I have a friend that has an amazing memory, and he'll remember the specific season, game and performances. I sort of remember the plays and game results, but outside of the NCs and notable years, I can't remember to that level.
It was at MN. It was when CBS used to award players of the game. Pat Knight was IU’s 😂😂
 
But we also had Knight, who rebounded at home on Tuesday night after and got a gritty win over a solid Illinois team. Woodson can't perform that kind of surgery.
Agreed. After the opening 2nd half flurry I don’t think our starters should have seen another second of play
 
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