Don't understand Penn St playing at the Palestra during conference season. Their home crowds can be bad at times, but no way would the IU presence been near what it was in Philly. the loss may bite them in the ass come tournament time. Lot of positives today to build off of, great win. One thing that damn sure needs cleaned up his players getting blown by and opponents getting to the rim. Mgbako and Tucker in particular.
A road win in name only
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Wrong board. But I suspect that crowd was better for PSU than 95% of their true home crowds. Especially for a game when students are still home for break. I think it’s a great idea for a team that doesn’t have a great home atmosphere…and has a building like the Polestra to take advantage of.
Students are not yet on Campus … The Palestra (PENN home court) is is a good a choice as any.
PSU was scored as IUs first quad 1 win of the season, FWIW.
Wait...Kurt?!...apologies...I was going back and forth between football and bball boards last night. My bad on the "wrong board" part!
Think on the broadcast they said they were 3-1 at the Palestra, so it's been a good venue for them. Not a program with a great presence, and probably trying to expand their presence and footprint. Which do you think produces more top end talent: Happy Valley or Philly? There you go!
I'm not saying they shouldn't play there; I would bring in a big-name non-conference opponent if I was them. wins are hard to come by in the BIG, sign-up IU every time for that game.
it was on the football board, someone moved it. I was doing the same thing
Agree with that. I would love for IU to play a game in Indy every year for similar reasons.
Who is going to play a non-conference, de-facto road game against Penn State in Philly? Penn State gets 100% of the ticket allocation. Penn State does this over winter break because there would be 500 people at Bryce-Jordan if this game was played in State College yesterday.
If I were them, I'd maybe do both. Especially if they get to control ticket sales and such for the B10 game like its a normal home B10 game.
I guess...probably to your point...there is an added comfort level, and advantages they're giving up because of that...from playing in Bryce Jordan versus Palestra. I just wonder if the added "juice" in the building outweighs that. Even though there were a lot of IU fans there, it was definitely a more pro PSU crowd...or it seemed so on TV anyways.
I'd schedule someone like West Virginia, annually, for a game in November/December, when students are on break. And then then the early January home B10 game as well. Hoping for schools like Purdue, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, etc...
Kentucky, Louisville, North Carolina a lot of schools would. have you seen the teams that have played Purdue in Indy the last few years since we left the crossroads. our preconference schedule is shit.
Purdue has been a top 10 team the last 3-4 seasons and those games in Indy have a second game played as well. Purdue doesn't have 100% of the ticket allocation either.
I will assure you Kentucky, North Carolina, etc aren't going to play Penn State in Philly in an 8500 person gym where they don't receive any gate revenue.
Applaud the effort though.
It would be a great game for 2nd tier, regional, P4 teams like Pitt, West Virginia, Syracuse maybe... Even Notre Dame tries to pull from places like Philly a lot, so they'd probably be game for it... Especially if it was more of an even split on tickets.
The early Jan B10 game is the one they benefit from getting the ticket revenue.
It was a Quad 1 win whether considered a PSU home game or a neutral court game in this case but there are potential situations where that is not true.
I agree with kkott that a game in Indy (say PU) would be great.
I agree with kkott that a game in Indy (say PU) would be great.
I agree. IU should play up in Indy also.
Sort of OT here, but I always thought the Pacers should do a small tour within the state of Indiana. Firs off, there are way too many regular season games, and they get tedious. So bring one home game to Assembly Hall in Bloomington. Also, one in Mackey, one in Butler, and finally, one in the Gym where they filmed the movie Hoosiers. Imagine seeing that little historic HS gym lit up and in high def for a Pacers game. I think it would be an amazing spectacle, and would help with the falling ratings, and build some young fans.
If you're going to do that, play it in the Wells Fargo as MTE and split the gate revenue. I see little value in playing in the Palestra as a true road game.
Nice thoughts...too much money involved to give up that many home games. Lots of luxury suites money, concourse money, etc...
Hinkle for one night, to be an all encompassing, Indiana Basketball type night...maybe. Wear the Hickory jerseys they've worn in the past.
Less seats...easier to sell out, higher ticket prices maybe, better environment, better TV experience...there are lots of reasons to have it at the Palestra over Sixers arena, for a game like PSU/West Virginia. Not sure why it'd be a road game? I would think there'd be enough demand on both side of a game like that...that they could evenly split the arena.
I don't think any of the elite names would see a PSU matchup, even if it was in the Sixers arena, as overly attractive. The Palestra angle probably gives them a better chance to have a game that has excitement and anticipation, against an interesting P4 opponent. Wells Fargo PSU/West Virginia game would have a watered down Cross Roads feel to it.
I'm saying get West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, and Penn State to play an MTE in Philly. Back to back games like the old Crossroads. A split gate revenue for an 8k seat arena just doesn't really make a ton of sense financially. Why not just play a home and home series if that's the case?
That Crossroads like event would be cool, and the MTE would be a better place for it.
I think for a school like Penn State...any positive buzz or excitement, in the preseason, is probably a good thing. And a game in the Palestra, against a West Virginia or Pitt, would definitely generate as much more excitement and buzz than a more sterile game in MTE. And I wouldn't think the ticket revenue would be a huge difference versus an MTE game. Maybe though? They wouldn't sell the 8+K necessary to fill half the MTE...so just because there'd be more seats, doesn't mean they'd sell more tickets.
Using our own Crossroads experiences, my understanding was that all the other schools, not named IU, even Purdue most years, struggled to sell their own allotments...PSU would be the "Notre Dame" of the Crossroads in your 4 team scenario. Maybe they get the benefits and money evenly, no matter what? And for them then, sure, piggy backing on the other more followed fan bases makes sense.
But just from an excitement, interest level, chance to create something that's reliably followed...a game against one of those teams at the Palestra has a great chance at doing that. They already have case studies with the B10 games they've played there.
I'm thinking along the lines of the Illinois/Missouri game...the Red River Rivalry...I'd guess they could get West Virginia to come up and play at the Palestra every year, on a similar date in the preseason. They'd sell the arena out easily, they could command higher ticket prices, it'd get a major TV network, I'm sure...
Students likely not back on campus and PSU is a football school. I’m sure they recruit Philly extensively.
The crowd Sunday was a big disappointment, only 6,126 sold, almost 2400 open seats. Two years ago when Purdue played there it was a sellout. Of course Purdue was No. 1 in the country.
Saw the reported attendance...seemed weird to me. On TV, and all pictures I've seen showed it was full to capacity. There was a pocket of maybe 20 seats or so down near the endzone near the IU bench, that appeared empty, which was weird. But it was full up to the top everywhere else?
Edey was like a traveling circus. That might not ever happen again for Purdue. Definition of anomaly for a historically 2nd rate bball program.
There were not 2,400 open seats. Likely a box score error. 2,400 open seats makes no sense, if you were sharp enough to spend two minutes sanity checking the attendance with actual pictures/videos and you would have seen it was sold out or basically sold out. Sorry.
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No way there were 2400 open seats. Place was full. The crowd was scanned numerous times.
I would love for the Pacers to play a game here in Fort Wayne at the Colosseum.
How about the old fairgrounds coliseum. Is that still standing.? Lots of history there.
“The Palestra, which was built in 1927 and is home to the University of Pennsylvania’s basketball games, is often referred to as “the Cathedral of College Basketball” and is the oldest major college arena still in use.“ — IDS
I’d try and get Philly recruits a homecoming game in Philly too if I were Penn State.
Winthrop at Gainbridge would have made sense to giving the empty seats in AH.
I’d try and get Philly recruits a homecoming game in Philly too if I were Penn State.
Winthrop at Gainbridge would have made sense to giving the empty seats in AH.
Butler feildhouse "the real cathedral of college basketball "was built a year later.
played Harvard there last year was 10k open seats, play UK there and tickets would be 500 a piece on the secondary market
It’s still there and in use. It’s now called the Corteva Coliseum.
https://www.indianastatefair.com/p/corteva-coliseum1
That would be nice. Biggest difference is that State College is over a 3 hour drive to Philly.
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