Nothing specific just several people saying good news coming today with #iufb
I dont have any insight. Im not skippy
A change needs to happen but probably too late to save this season
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I dont have any insight. Im not skippy
Again, I’m sorry you’re mad. I’ve simply tried to give you what is far and away the mostly likely reason Hiller has been and continues to be the O line coach: Coach Allen thought he was the right guy. And if and when he lets him go, it will be because he no longer feels that way. By the way, he thought Nick was the right guy, too, right up until he didn’t. He thought Carlton Warren was too, and CW thought the IU job was the right one for him. Then neither of them felt that way. Not sure why this continues to be such a mystery to you.
Sometimes making a change in mid season isn't about getting an immediate result It may be more about sending a message to get everybody's attention. If that message is I'm finished with poor performance by both Coaches and Players and You turn the attitude around it's worth it. If You wait until Year End, You are just creating a bigger mess to clean up.
I think the biggest issue will be trying to figure out who the five best guys are and then getting them on the field. Beyond that, it will be determining 6-9 and making sure they’re ready. They need to simplify everything to get better results, especially with the meat of the schedule at hand.
Thought you knew several people close to the program? They didn’t give you prior insight?
Jack, the speculation boils down to why Allen feels the way he does. We know he thinks Hiller should keep his job, that's obvious. The question is what does he see that practically everyone else doesn't. So Allen obviously has a reason, what is it? Or is it simply and I guess this is your view though you never actually state it or your "sources" whoever they may or may not be realize Allen is just a terrible evaluator of coaching talent and a terrible administrator who simply can't do the job he has been entrusted with. If that's the case, just say it. A lot of us think that anyway.
Nope. Didn’t talk with them last night, when this decision was obviously made. And I doubt they would’ve heard about this so quickly. Really confirms what I’ve been saying, though. It wasn’t about anything other than Allen’s view of Hiller’s performance.
I haven’t said that he’s a terrible evaluator . . . strange that you’d make that up. But I think it’s obvious Coach Allen has had a heavy amount of staff turnover since he got the job, and not all of his choices have top performers. Draw your own conclusions as to what that means.
So after 6 years his viewpoint just suddenly changed? Right….
He was solid with him at the end of last season, through the Spring, and into the season. Things change, and the performance of the team wasn’t something he could ignore. It’s like the poster who knew MSU was going to bust Minnesota and was so sure they were going to remind me of it after the game. Then they never showed up and deleted their posts after the Gophers performed as I said they would. That’s all hypothetical, of course. Lol. Some people are just slower to reality than others.
The higher ups refused to fire Hillier and pay his buyout after last season. That’s the only reason he was brought back.
Many times a person's view changes when Upper Management lights a fire under their ass and tells them or implies that their job security is at risk if things don't change.
Feepaw is back and with both he and Ordy "in the know" I'm flabbergasted we had to hear this from Twitter.
I really Wish there was a “pat the child on the head” emoji. It would be so apt here.
That's a very Ordy response, jackskip. You just can't stop outing yourself. Now deny deny that you're Ordy and you'll have hit for the cycle.
Another embarassing moment for ordy. Spin mode in full motion.
Odd that he would respond so defensively to a post referring to someone he swears not to be on a daily basis.
Ah, now you’re upset that I made you look foolish. It’ll be okay. Trolls like you always find a way to go where they aren’t welcome. Hang in there!
Nope, the only embarrassed ones should be the people who claimed that Hiller’s retention was for some other reason than Allen’s view of his performance. Since you don’t follow the program, this is well beyond your comprehension, though. I tried to tell you guys. Move along.
So weird that you keep responding so angrily to posts that refer to someone you SWEAR you are not.
Weird.
No anger in me at your constant stalking. I’ve always enjoyed that you seek me out to learn more about my University and her football program. Always love to acquaint people like you with IU. It’s like that Memorial Stadium thing you got so wrong . . . I was glad to correct you, and you were glad to be corrected. We both won!
Again with the defensive responses to this ordy guy you SWEAR you are not.
Spinning out of control after looking so foolish yet again.
You haven’t argued much of substance on this last 24 hrs but you feel like an insider while doing it, so you do you!
Not spinning out of control at all. You predictably started chasing me around, looking for attention and trying to ruin yet another thread. Strange, since you never, ever talk IU football. Hmm . . .
Karma always seems to humble those that run their mouths with no substance.
I argued that Coach Allen had Hiller on his staff because he thought he was the best guy for the job. You got mad because i disagreed with your speculation that he kept him for some other reason. You trapped yourself. That’s a you issue.
Is that why you keep following me around and making ridiculous claims? No wonder you tried to make something up about parking spaces? Lol.
Then chase Ordy around and quit following me. It’s really that simple. Somehow, I think you’re getting ready to deflect, though.
You keep responding to me within seconds of when your phone dings.
Just trying to explain how weird it is that you have become so enraged about posts from others refering to Ordy and not Jackassskippy.
As you you, you need to calm the **** down and sit a few out.
See, I knew you were mad and just looking for attention. Go outside and find some friends to play with. Your day will turn around before you know it.
My phone dings? Is that like the parking space you made up? And I’m not enraged, only amused that you’re this fragile and insecure. I kinda feel sorry for you. Try to compose yourself, even as you ruin yet another thread. Why do you keep doing that, especially when you never, ever can talk IU football?
