247 Sports Updated List Class of 2020

[IndyResident16]

I care very little about recruiting rankings but I know for some its the end be all. 247 released their updated list just a few minutes ago and curious to see peoples reactions.

Ethan Morton who was once a top 40 recruit dropped over 60 spots and is now ranked 121. You would have thought the world was at end when he committed to Purdue.

Trey Galloway has now achieved 4 star status and is ranked 123rd after once being ranked in the 200s.

Matt Cross jumped over 70 spots and is now ranked 89th and is a 4 star prospect.

Anthony Leal dropped 25 spots to 115 but is still a 4 star recruit.

RJ Davis achieved 4 star status and is now ranked 102nd.

Keep in mind Rivals and the rest of the sites haven't yet updated theirs so the 247 composite isn't completely up to date.

Just comical how some people take recruiting rankings as gospel. Galloway, Davis, Leal, Cross, and DJ Steward are now all ranked ahead of Ethan Morton whom many claimed was the end of the recruiting momentum for Archie Miller.

Give me a class of Leal, Cross, Galloway and then one RJ Davis/Dj Steward and potentially a big if a 5th scholarship becomes available ALL FREAKING DAY.

 

[Cavanagh.6]

I care very little about recruiting rankings but I know for some its the end be all. 247 released their updated list just a few minutes ago and curious to see peoples reactions.

Ethan Morton who was once a top 40 recruit dropped over 60 spots and is now ranked 121. You would have thought the world was at end when he committed to Purdue.

Trey Galloway has now achieved 4 star status and is ranked 123rd after once being ranked in the 200s.

Matt Cross jumped over 70 spots and is now ranked 89th and is a 4 star prospect.

Anthony Leal dropped 25 spots to 115 but is still a 4 star recruit.

RJ Davis achieved 4 star status and is now ranked 102nd.

Keep in mind Rivals and the rest of the sites haven't yet updated theirs so the 247 composite isn't completely up to date.

Just comical how some people take recruiting rankings as gospel. Galloway, Davis, Leal, Cross, and DJ Steward are now all ranked ahead of Ethan Morton whom many claimed was the end of the recruiting momentum for Archie Miller.

Give me a class of Leal, Cross, Galloway and then one RJ Davis/Dj Steward and potentially a big if a 5th scholarship becomes available ALL FREAKING DAY.

Well the problem is, that it seems you only halfway get, is recruits rankings are widely wrong year in and year out. #4 ranked players are more like #15. Then outside of the top 20 you have wild misses in both directions all the time.

All these kids could suck, or they could be great. The people ranking these kids aren't getting paid 100s of thousands of dollars. They are not that talented in what they do.

 

[Hatchets7times]

That would be ok...
But Love or Garcia put in any of those combinations. Would give me much more confidence..

 

[IndyResident16]

Well the problem is, that it seems you only halfway get, is recruits rankings are widely wrong year in and year out. #4 ranked players are more like #15. Then outside of the top 20 you have wild misses in both directions all the time.

All these kids could suck, or they could be great. The people ranking these kids aren't getting paid 100s of thousands of dollars. They are not that talented in what they do.

Trust me, I'm not missing anything. It's about perception. Had Ethan Morton committed to Purdue tomorrow rather than 3 weeks back when he was ranked in the top 50, we don't get a 10+ page thread about how Archie has lost all his recruiting momentum and the sky is falling. 3 weeks ago guys like Galloway and Cross who are pretty heavy IU leans were ranked in the 200s and now one is top 100 in the other is ranked higher than Morton.

 

[IndyResident16]

That would be ok...
But Love or Garcia put in any of those combinations. Would give me much more confidence..

I don't think we get Love and think we have a better shot a Steward who is ranked about the same. Garcia I don't think we're in the picture. Loveday is still in the picture but has never wowed me. Personally I like Elijah Hutchin-Everrett the best although I'm not sure we've offered, only shown interest, and I'm fairly high on Kiyron Powell who I believe is going to be a defensive monster. Offensive game needs some work but he's a game changing rim protector.

 

[T.M.P.]

Well the problem is, that it seems you only halfway get, is recruits rankings are widely wrong year in and year out. #4 ranked players are more like #15. Then outside of the top 20 you have wild misses in both directions all the time.

All these kids could suck, or they could be great. The people ranking these kids aren't getting paid 100s of thousands of dollars. They are not that talented in what they do.

No they're not. Your pulling bullshit out of your ass again.

 

[OhioBoiler51]

I care very little about recruiting rankings but I know for some its the end be all. 247 released their updated list just a few minutes ago and curious to see peoples reactions.

Ethan Morton who was once a top 40 recruit dropped over 60 spots and is now ranked 121. You would have thought the world was at end when he committed to Purdue.

Trey Galloway has now achieved 4 star status and is ranked 123rd after once being ranked in the 200s.

Matt Cross jumped over 70 spots and is now ranked 89th and is a 4 star prospect.

Anthony Leal dropped 25 spots to 115 but is still a 4 star recruit.

RJ Davis achieved 4 star status and is now ranked 102nd.

Keep in mind Rivals and the rest of the sites haven't yet updated theirs so the 247 composite isn't completely up to date.

Just comical how some people take recruiting rankings as gospel. Galloway, Davis, Leal, Cross, and DJ Steward are now all ranked ahead of Ethan Morton whom many claimed was the end of the recruiting momentum for Archie Miller.

Give me a class of Leal, Cross, Galloway and then one RJ Davis/Dj Steward and potentially a big if a 5th scholarship becomes available ALL FREAKING DAY.

Lol

 

[ufo33]

I care very little about recruiting rankings but I know for some its the end be all. 247 released their updated list just a few minutes ago and curious to see peoples ⁸.

Ethan Morton who was once a top 40 recruit dropped over 60 spots and is now ranked 121. You would have thought the world was at end when he committed to Purdue.

Trey Galloway has now achieved 4 star status and is ranked 123rd after once being ranked in the 200s.

Matt Cross is jumped over 70 spots and is now ranked 89th and is a 4 star prospect.

Anthony Leal dropped 25 spots to 115 but is still a 4 star recruit.

RJ Davis achieved 4 star status and is now ranked 102nd.

Keep in mind Rivals and the rest of the sites haven't yet updated theirs so the 247 composite isn't completely up to date.

Just comical how some people take recruiting rankings as gospel. Galloway, Davis, Leal, Cross, and DJ Steward are now all ranked ahead of Ethan Morton whom many claimed was the end of the recruiting momentum for Archie Miller.

Give me a class of Leal, Cross, Galloway and then one RJ Davis/Dj Steward and potentially a big if a 5th scholarship becomes available ALL FREAKING DAY.

The national rankings game is a recruiting racket. Anything after the top 40 all bets are off on their true ranking.

 

[Cavanagh.6]

No they're not. Your pulling bullshit out of your ass again.

Romeo was not a top ten freshmen, Iggy was. Harper was much better than his ranking as was Rob. Henry should have been ranked 100 spots higher than Damezi, probably around 40 and Damezi around 140. This is in the big ten off the top of my head.

Then you have the misses in the top ten like Romeo Bol Bol Shittu and Little all not top 10 Freshmen, and a wild miss in Shittu, wasn't a top 75 player.

You like to drop drive by comments with no backing to your claims, because you know nothing about basketball, like we have been over time and time again. YOU'RE a dipshit, and I know more about pot than you too. Carry on

 

[T.M.P.]

The national rankings game is a recruiting racket. Anything after the top 40 all bets are off on their true ranking.

If they were as off as some believe why is it that 5 stars have a better average PER and pro draft status than 4 stars? Why is it that 4 stars on average have better average PER than 3 stars? Why is it that ranked 3 stars have better average PERs than unranked? Why is it that class rankings are generally a prelude to national success? Because they do a decent job on the top 150+. Those players get scouted extensively.

And sure there's a drop off once you get to players that don't garner visibility .. and of course there's misses, players ranked due to potential that never meet it, and early and late bloomers but they are more the exception than the rule.

 

[T.M.P.]

Romeo was not a top ten freshmen, Iggy was. Harper was much better than his ranking as was Rob. Henry should have been ranked 100 spots higher than Damezi, probably around 40 and Damezi around 140. This is in the big ten off the top of my head.

Then you have the misses in the top ten like Romeo Bol Bol Shittu and Little all not top 10 Freshmen, and a wild miss in Shittu, wasn't a top 75 player.

You like to drop drive by comments with no backing to your claims, because you know nothing about basketball, like we have been over time and time again. YOU'RE a dipshit, and I know more about pot than you too. Carry on

Cherry picking ...

Try again and this time put what little thought you are capable of into it.

Maybe wear a plastic helmet so you don't hurt your head, again.

 

[IndyResident16]

Romeo was not a top ten freshmen, Iggy was. Harper was much better than his ranking as was Rob. Henry should have been ranked 100 spots higher than Damezi, probably around 40 and Damezi around 140. This is in the big ten off the top of my head.

Then you have the misses in the top ten like Romeo Bol Bol Shittu and Little all not top 10 Freshmen, and a wild miss in Shittu, wasn't a top 75 player.

You like to drop drive by comments with no backing to your claims, because you know nothing about basketball, like we have been over time and time again. YOU'RE a dipshit, and I know more about pot than you too. Carry on

How was Romeo not worthy of a top 10 ranking? He was second team all-B10, highest scoring freshman in the B10, and third highest scoring freshman in a P5 conference behind Zion and Barrett who will go 1 and 3 in the draft in a couple weeks.

How was Bol Bol not worthy of a top 10 ranking? He was averaging 21 and 9 with 3 blocks a game up until he got hurt. You're not very good at this.

 

[T.M.P.]

How was Romeo not worthy of a top 10 ranking? He was second team all-B10, highest scoring freshman in the B10, and third highest scoring freshman in a P5 conference behind Zion and Barrett who will go 1 and 3 in the draft in a couple weeks.

Because it doesn't fit his butthurt feeling narrative. This dude is about as irrational as can be. Chronic Menorrhagia. He often confuses his emotional bias for sound reasoning.

 

[IndyResident16]

Because it doesn't fit his butthurt feeling narrative. This dude is about as irrational as can be. Chronic Menorrhagia and often confuses his emotions for reasoning.

I forgot, he was about to hit Drew Adams with a baseball bat back in high school.

 

[TommyCracker]

Well the problem is, that it seems you only halfway get, is recruits rankings are widely wrong year in and year out. #4 ranked players are more like #15. Then outside of the top 20 you have wild misses in both directions all the time.

All these kids could suck, or they could be great. The people ranking these kids aren't getting paid 100s of thousands of dollars. They are not that talented in what they do.

I agree that we put way to much importance on rankings as absolutes...which they aren't, they are guidelines.

Arguing over an individual player who is ranked 70th vs 90th is dumb.

Looking at a roster and saying holy crap, 80% are ranked recruits is a different story.

Meaning I can't tell you between Jerome, Justin, Race, Rob, Damezi, Trayce, Arman, DeRon and Joey who is going to bust and who is going to be a player...but the odds of having more 'playa' are greater when your pool is larger to pull from.

That plus rankers typically are ranking by NBA potential, so athleticism gets weighted higher than actual skill because athleticism is good given and tends to dominate when evaluating teenagers (who are all developing a different paces).

There was a great video that I liked to point to of Jason Heyward taking batting practice, which was spliced over his freshman to senior years. You see this spindly freshman who looks like he's being swallowed by his helmet slowly turn into a monster absolutely crushing batting practice right before your eyes at 18. He grew several inches and bulked up tremendously.

Anyway that's the kind of body changes that you're trying to evaluate. The kids that develop early physically have a massive advantage and tend to be ranked higher.

The other aspect is a guy like Matt Cross. He's not considered an NBA prospect but a guy like Snow will tell you he has actual skill and size to be an incredible four year college player, which is why I want him badly as a recruit.

6'7" shooter that can rebound. That sounds a little like a Brian Evans mold. I like.