Okay so then Brady's 4 game suspension must not be for lack of cooperation but for cheating in games. Good that you're finally willing to admit that...even if you're too dull to know you're admitting that.
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Okay so then Brady's 4 game suspension must not be for lack of cooperation but for cheating in games. Good that you're finally willing to admit that...even if you're too dull to know you're admitting that.
Peyton Manning is the best quarterback of all time and here's why
By: Steven Ruiz | March 7, 2016 2:11 pm
Peyton Manning’s legacy has always been a point of contention among football fans. That won’t change now that he’s walking away from the NFL. Some say Manning is the greatest quarterback ever — and the statistics would certainly back up such a claim — while others leave him out of their top five because of his playoff failures. I’m not sure where I’d rank Manning on my list of greatest passers, but if I were going to make the argument for him being the best, this would be my case…
1. He changed the way the quarterback position is played
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For over a decade, Manning’s mind was the biggest weapon in all of football. In an age of disguised coverages, designer blitzes and amoeba-like fronts, he was able to recognize it all on the field and exploit the weaknesses in any tactic a defensive coordinator could throw at him.
Before Manning, the prototypical quarterback was either a gun slinger like Brett Favre or the coolest guy in the room like Joe Montana. Peyton was neither. He was a football nerd. And he was anything but cool at the line of scrimmage. He was almost neurotic — tinkering with protections, re-positioning his backs, changing his receivers’ routes. The show he put on before the snap became just as entertaining as what happened after it.
Manning’s film study throughout the week allowed him to dominate on Sundays. If a defense gave him even the slightest hint as to what it was doing, Manning would instantly recognize the concept and shred it.
Now all franchise quarterbacks are expected to have a similar command of the offense. The standard has been changed thanks to No. 18.
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2. He wasn’t a system QB; he was the system
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Unlike many of the other all-time great quarterbacks, Manning has had success under several different coaches. Tom Brady has Bill Belichick and Joe Montana had Bill Walsh, while Manning’s career is not tied to a single coach. He made Super Bowls with defensive coaches (John Fox and Tony Dungy) and offensive coaches (Gary Kubiak and Jim Caldwell). The coaches changed, but Manning’s offense remained. When he was breaking records in Denver, he was still running the same stuff he ran back in Indianapolis.
“It’s identical. It looks the same to me,” Belichick said when asked in 2012 how much Denver’s offense differed from Indianapolis’.
Manning had become so proficient at running the handful of concepts he favored, his new coaches were smart enough not to force their playbooks on the future hall-of-famer.
3. He was the best offensive line in the league
It didn’t matter who you put in front of Manning, the pass rush wasn’t going to get to him. His mind worked with the efficiency of a computer. The ball was snapped, he hit the back of his drop and the ball was out. There just wasn’t enough time for the rush to get home. The offensive line needed to hold its ground for only a few ticks and its job was done.
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Sacks are a quarterback stat, Pt. MDCLXXIV: Brock Osweiler's sack rate is 9.1%, Peyton Manning's 4.45%.
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Manning finished first in sack rate (percentage of passing plays that end in a sack) six times over his last ten seasons and never finished outside of the top eight. In 2011, when Manning missed the season recovering from neck surgery, the Colts dropped to 14th and their sack rate doubled. The Broncos finished 26th the season before he arrived. They finished second in sack rate his first season.
4. He was a winner no matter what the popular narrative says
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Manning’s teams were always a shoo-in for the playoffs. After missing the postseason in 2001, his teams qualified in 13th consecutive seasons, winning at least ten games every year.
Some will write off Manning’s second ring because of Denver’s historically dominant defense but it was really the first time in his career that he rode his defense to wins.
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Manning gets criticized for his playoff performance and that’s a bit unfair. Poor games at New England in 2003 and 2004 started the “Manning is a choker” momentum. But look at his postseason stats compared to those of Brady, who is thought of as some sort of postseason demigod:
5. He was, literally, the most valuable player ever
This may not seem like it has a lot of impact on the field but it does speak to the value Manning provided his teams.
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Peyton will leave the NFL with far and away the most career earnings of any player: $249 million, per @spotrac. Brady is at $163 million.
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The Colts and Broncos front offices gladly paid Manning top money and in return they got guaranteed playoff berths and elite offensive units. Manning was that good. He made underwhelming offensive lines look like impenetrable walls. He transformed no-name receivers into solid contributors (hello, Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon). He was proof that the right quarterback could mask whatever weaknesses an offense might have and that the right quarterback was worth paying top-dollar for.
Throughout his career, Manning singed three contracts worth more than $90 million. The next wave of quarterbacks can thank Manning for setting the precedent for what a franchise passer’s contract looks like.
By: Steven Ruiz | March 7, 2016 2:11 pm
Peyton Manning’s legacy has always been a point of contention among football fans. That won’t change now that he’s walking away from the NFL. Some say Manning is the greatest quarterback ever — and the statistics would certainly back up such a claim — while others leave him out of their top five because of his playoff failures. I’m not sure where I’d rank Manning on my list of greatest passers, but if I were going to make the argument for him being the best, this would be my case…
1. He changed the way the quarterback position is played
Robert Hanashiro-USA TODAY Sports
For over a decade, Manning’s mind was the biggest weapon in all of football. In an age of disguised coverages, designer blitzes and amoeba-like fronts, he was able to recognize it all on the field and exploit the weaknesses in any tactic a defensive coordinator could throw at him.
Before Manning, the prototypical quarterback was either a gun slinger like Brett Favre or the coolest guy in the room like Joe Montana. Peyton was neither. He was a football nerd. And he was anything but cool at the line of scrimmage. He was almost neurotic — tinkering with protections, re-positioning his backs, changing his receivers’ routes. The show he put on before the snap became just as entertaining as what happened after it.
Manning’s film study throughout the week allowed him to dominate on Sundays. If a defense gave him even the slightest hint as to what it was doing, Manning would instantly recognize the concept and shred it.
Now all franchise quarterbacks are expected to have a similar command of the offense. The standard has been changed thanks to No. 18.
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Trent Dilfer @DilfersDimesPeyton, you changed the way the position is played and taught. Your influence & legacy extend much further than your accolades. Thank you
2:14 PM - Mar 6, 2016
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2. He wasn’t a system QB; he was the system
(Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)
Unlike many of the other all-time great quarterbacks, Manning has had success under several different coaches. Tom Brady has Bill Belichick and Joe Montana had Bill Walsh, while Manning’s career is not tied to a single coach. He made Super Bowls with defensive coaches (John Fox and Tony Dungy) and offensive coaches (Gary Kubiak and Jim Caldwell). The coaches changed, but Manning’s offense remained. When he was breaking records in Denver, he was still running the same stuff he ran back in Indianapolis.
“It’s identical. It looks the same to me,” Belichick said when asked in 2012 how much Denver’s offense differed from Indianapolis’.
Manning had become so proficient at running the handful of concepts he favored, his new coaches were smart enough not to force their playbooks on the future hall-of-famer.
3. He was the best offensive line in the league
It didn’t matter who you put in front of Manning, the pass rush wasn’t going to get to him. His mind worked with the efficiency of a computer. The ball was snapped, he hit the back of his drop and the ball was out. There just wasn’t enough time for the rush to get home. The offensive line needed to hold its ground for only a few ticks and its job was done.
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Tom Gower @ThomasGowerSacks are a quarterback stat, Pt. MDCLXXIV: Brock Osweiler's sack rate is 9.1%, Peyton Manning's 4.45%.
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Manning finished first in sack rate (percentage of passing plays that end in a sack) six times over his last ten seasons and never finished outside of the top eight. In 2011, when Manning missed the season recovering from neck surgery, the Colts dropped to 14th and their sack rate doubled. The Broncos finished 26th the season before he arrived. They finished second in sack rate his first season.
4. He was a winner no matter what the popular narrative says
Matthew Emmons-USA TODAY Sports
Manning’s teams were always a shoo-in for the playoffs. After missing the postseason in 2001, his teams qualified in 13th consecutive seasons, winning at least ten games every year.
Some will write off Manning’s second ring because of Denver’s historically dominant defense but it was really the first time in his career that he rode his defense to wins.
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Manning gets criticized for his playoff performance and that’s a bit unfair. Poor games at New England in 2003 and 2004 started the “Manning is a choker” momentum. But look at his postseason stats compared to those of Brady, who is thought of as some sort of postseason demigod:
5. He was, literally, the most valuable player ever
This may not seem like it has a lot of impact on the field but it does speak to the value Manning provided his teams.
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Andrew Brandt ✔@AndrewBrandt
Peyton will leave the NFL with far and away the most career earnings of any player: $249 million, per @spotrac. Brady is at $163 million.
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The Colts and Broncos front offices gladly paid Manning top money and in return they got guaranteed playoff berths and elite offensive units. Manning was that good. He made underwhelming offensive lines look like impenetrable walls. He transformed no-name receivers into solid contributors (hello, Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon). He was proof that the right quarterback could mask whatever weaknesses an offense might have and that the right quarterback was worth paying top-dollar for.
Throughout his career, Manning singed three contracts worth more than $90 million. The next wave of quarterbacks can thank Manning for setting the precedent for what a franchise passer’s contract looks like.
Peyton Manning retires as the greatest football player who ever lived
Maybe he needed the second Super Bowl ring, the one he won just over a month ago thanks to a stout defense, and not because of his arm and mind, two of the greatest weapons football has ever seen. Maybe he didn’t. We place far too much emphasis on singular games or drives or touchdowns or interceptions when ranking the careers of players. (Why is Manning’s career any less because Joe Flacco and the Ravens had a miracle touchdown in the 2012 playoffs?) Instead, we should instead be paying attention to the longer lens of history and, in that way, Peyton Manning would have still been the greatest player in NFL history even if he didn’t get that ring. But it certainly helps his case.
Manning, whose retirement plans were revealed on Sunday, two days before the Denver Broncos would have been forced to cut him, was the rarest of athletes. He lived up to the hype. Given that he was the son of Archie, his college announcement was one of the first national ones NCAA football had ever seen. And when he spurned Ole Miss to go to Tennessee, it was perhaps the first indication that Peyton Manning was going to do things his way.
(Photo by David Eulitt/Kansas City Star/MCT via Getty Images)
And that’s what people will remember about Peyton the most: There was never any doubt that it was always his show. He was like Leonard Bernstein on the line of scrimmage, conducting his 10 teammates to stand here, run there, block that, fake him. Being offensive coordinator on a team with Peyton Manning was like being drummer for The Beatles. Sure, you had to be good and keep up, but your job was to stay in the background and keep the beat going.
When you measure up Manning against other quarterbacks, you can pick and choose stats that will support one contention (Manning is the G.O.A.T.) or another (no, it’s Brady, Favre, Marino, Montana or Unitas). One thing that can’t be denied: The greatest has to be a quarterback. It’s the most important position in sports and everything — EVERYTHING — on a football field goes through him. Jim Brown and Jerry Rice were great, but without their quarterbacks Rice never catcheds a ball and defenses just would have stuffed 11 in the box.
In the end, if Tom Brady plays until he’s 42, maybe he’ll break some of the records Peyton currently holds, like the biggies: Passing yards, passing touchdowns and most quarterback wins (a flawed stat, but one that gets at the point fairly quickly). Either way, a glance look through the history book shows Peyton in the top five of most other major categories, a nice, well-rounded resume to put under his Canton bust.
He won five MVP awards, more than all but three NFL teams have in their history. (No individual has more than three.) He was an All-Pro seven times, more than Tom Brady, Joe Montana, John Elway, Terry Bradshaw and Bart Starr — and as much as all of them combined. He had two losing seasons — his first ever and then a down year in 2001. He came back from an injury that would have sidelined most athletes to put together the greatest two-year stretch in football history and then brought it all full circle with that odd Super Bowl win, one in which Manning was considered a liability, not a star. You can spin that in his favor: The greatest ever knew his talents had diminished and his role was to play game manager, not game winner, in his final go-round. It’s hard to imagine others doing the same. (Remember M.J. with the Wizards?)
Because he stepped back, became a situational passer and let his defense do the work, Manning will retire as the eighth Hall of Famer to go out with a championship, duplicating the move made by the man instrumental in his signing in Denver — John Elway. Though his parting with the Indianapolis Colts after a back injury was inevitable and clean, it strengthens Peyton’s bona fides even more. After changing the Colts from a laughingstock into a constant playoff contender, in seven months, he turned the Broncos from a team that was scoring 9 points with Tim Tebow into a four-season juggernaut.
Peyton’s career stands for itself — you don’t need to use the stats of other quarterbacks to puff him up. But in case you’re thinking Brady was better because of his four titles, remember he did it with the greatest coach of the generation. Peyton played for coaches such as Jim Caldwell, Gary Kubiak, Jim Mora and John Fox. The same goes for Montana, who had Jerry Rice and Bill Walsh. Johnny Unitas? That’s a tougher case — the games he and Peyton played hardly resembled one another. As for Favre — Peyton had that bad interception in his Super Bowl against the Saints, but any coach would take his measured game over Favre’s gunslinging any day.
(Stew Milne-USA TODAY Sports)
Though Manning was blessed with the presence of Edgerrin James and Marvin Harrison early in his career, their greatness was of the chicken and egg variety: Was Marvin Harrison a singular, generational talent or was he so good because Peyton Manning was throwing him footballs? To say nothing ill of Marvin, but you get the sense that Chris Harrison of The Bachelor fame could have caught 75 passes per year lining up with Peyton.
His retirement comes at an odd, almost forced time. It will be forgotten by next week, but Manning had to have his retirement decision rushed by an NFL deadline. On Tuesday at 4 p.m. ET, Manning was going to be cut by the Denver Broncos because of his unwieldy $19 million base salary for 2016. He didn’t have to retire, of course. He could have accepted that, then tried to play one more season, either in Denver or elsewhere (Los Angeles was a popular rumored destination). Or he could have done what he did on Sunday and let the news out that he was retiring.
In that way, maybe the deadline wasn’t so bad. The greatest are always the last to know when they’re done. By forcing his hand, the cap deadline might have shown Peyton what everyone else knew all along: Age had diminished his skills, but even then he led a team to a Super Bowl to get that desperately needed second ring, the one that cements his place in history. Now, after two decades in the limelight, accomplishing everything we thought he would, Peyton Manning is allowed to ride off into the sunset, on a colt and a bronco, the greatest there was or ever will be.
Maybe he needed the second Super Bowl ring, the one he won just over a month ago thanks to a stout defense, and not because of his arm and mind, two of the greatest weapons football has ever seen. Maybe he didn’t. We place far too much emphasis on singular games or drives or touchdowns or interceptions when ranking the careers of players. (Why is Manning’s career any less because Joe Flacco and the Ravens had a miracle touchdown in the 2012 playoffs?) Instead, we should instead be paying attention to the longer lens of history and, in that way, Peyton Manning would have still been the greatest player in NFL history even if he didn’t get that ring. But it certainly helps his case.
Manning, whose retirement plans were revealed on Sunday, two days before the Denver Broncos would have been forced to cut him, was the rarest of athletes. He lived up to the hype. Given that he was the son of Archie, his college announcement was one of the first national ones NCAA football had ever seen. And when he spurned Ole Miss to go to Tennessee, it was perhaps the first indication that Peyton Manning was going to do things his way.
(Photo by David Eulitt/Kansas City Star/MCT via Getty Images)
And that’s what people will remember about Peyton the most: There was never any doubt that it was always his show. He was like Leonard Bernstein on the line of scrimmage, conducting his 10 teammates to stand here, run there, block that, fake him. Being offensive coordinator on a team with Peyton Manning was like being drummer for The Beatles. Sure, you had to be good and keep up, but your job was to stay in the background and keep the beat going.
When you measure up Manning against other quarterbacks, you can pick and choose stats that will support one contention (Manning is the G.O.A.T.) or another (no, it’s Brady, Favre, Marino, Montana or Unitas). One thing that can’t be denied: The greatest has to be a quarterback. It’s the most important position in sports and everything — EVERYTHING — on a football field goes through him. Jim Brown and Jerry Rice were great, but without their quarterbacks Rice never catcheds a ball and defenses just would have stuffed 11 in the box.
In the end, if Tom Brady plays until he’s 42, maybe he’ll break some of the records Peyton currently holds, like the biggies: Passing yards, passing touchdowns and most quarterback wins (a flawed stat, but one that gets at the point fairly quickly). Either way, a glance look through the history book shows Peyton in the top five of most other major categories, a nice, well-rounded resume to put under his Canton bust.
He won five MVP awards, more than all but three NFL teams have in their history. (No individual has more than three.) He was an All-Pro seven times, more than Tom Brady, Joe Montana, John Elway, Terry Bradshaw and Bart Starr — and as much as all of them combined. He had two losing seasons — his first ever and then a down year in 2001. He came back from an injury that would have sidelined most athletes to put together the greatest two-year stretch in football history and then brought it all full circle with that odd Super Bowl win, one in which Manning was considered a liability, not a star. You can spin that in his favor: The greatest ever knew his talents had diminished and his role was to play game manager, not game winner, in his final go-round. It’s hard to imagine others doing the same. (Remember M.J. with the Wizards?)
Because he stepped back, became a situational passer and let his defense do the work, Manning will retire as the eighth Hall of Famer to go out with a championship, duplicating the move made by the man instrumental in his signing in Denver — John Elway. Though his parting with the Indianapolis Colts after a back injury was inevitable and clean, it strengthens Peyton’s bona fides even more. After changing the Colts from a laughingstock into a constant playoff contender, in seven months, he turned the Broncos from a team that was scoring 9 points with Tim Tebow into a four-season juggernaut.
Peyton’s career stands for itself — you don’t need to use the stats of other quarterbacks to puff him up. But in case you’re thinking Brady was better because of his four titles, remember he did it with the greatest coach of the generation. Peyton played for coaches such as Jim Caldwell, Gary Kubiak, Jim Mora and John Fox. The same goes for Montana, who had Jerry Rice and Bill Walsh. Johnny Unitas? That’s a tougher case — the games he and Peyton played hardly resembled one another. As for Favre — Peyton had that bad interception in his Super Bowl against the Saints, but any coach would take his measured game over Favre’s gunslinging any day.
(Stew Milne-USA TODAY Sports)
Though Manning was blessed with the presence of Edgerrin James and Marvin Harrison early in his career, their greatness was of the chicken and egg variety: Was Marvin Harrison a singular, generational talent or was he so good because Peyton Manning was throwing him footballs? To say nothing ill of Marvin, but you get the sense that Chris Harrison of The Bachelor fame could have caught 75 passes per year lining up with Peyton.
His retirement comes at an odd, almost forced time. It will be forgotten by next week, but Manning had to have his retirement decision rushed by an NFL deadline. On Tuesday at 4 p.m. ET, Manning was going to be cut by the Denver Broncos because of his unwieldy $19 million base salary for 2016. He didn’t have to retire, of course. He could have accepted that, then tried to play one more season, either in Denver or elsewhere (Los Angeles was a popular rumored destination). Or he could have done what he did on Sunday and let the news out that he was retiring.
In that way, maybe the deadline wasn’t so bad. The greatest are always the last to know when they’re done. By forcing his hand, the cap deadline might have shown Peyton what everyone else knew all along: Age had diminished his skills, but even then he led a team to a Super Bowl to get that desperately needed second ring, the one that cements his place in history. Now, after two decades in the limelight, accomplishing everything we thought he would, Peyton Manning is allowed to ride off into the sunset, on a colt and a bronco, the greatest there was or ever will be.
I hope you and @outside shooter both die in the same fire, and I hope the flames are just cool enough to make it extra painful.Peyton Manning is the best quarterback of all time and here's why
By: Steven Ruiz | March 7, 2016 2:11 pm
Peyton Manning’s legacy has always been a point of contention among football fans. That won’t change now that he’s walking away from the NFL. Some say Manning is the greatest quarterback ever — and the statistics would certainly back up such a claim — while others leave him out of their top five because of his playoff failures. I’m not sure where I’d rank Manning on my list of greatest passers, but if I were going to make the argument for him being the best, this would be my case…
1. He changed the way the quarterback position is played
Robert Hanashiro-USA TODAY Sports
For over a decade, Manning’s mind was the biggest weapon in all of football. In an age of disguised coverages, designer blitzes and amoeba-like fronts, he was able to recognize it all on the field and exploit the weaknesses in any tactic a defensive coordinator could throw at him.
Before Manning, the prototypical quarterback was either a gun slinger like Brett Favre or the coolest guy in the room like Joe Montana. Peyton was neither. He was a football nerd. And he was anything but cool at the line of scrimmage. He was almost neurotic — tinkering with protections, re-positioning his backs, changing his receivers’ routes. The show he put on before the snap became just as entertaining as what happened after it.
Manning’s film study throughout the week allowed him to dominate on Sundays. If a defense gave him even the slightest hint as to what it was doing, Manning would instantly recognize the concept and shred it.
Now all franchise quarterbacks are expected to have a similar command of the offense. The standard has been changed thanks to No. 18.
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Peyton, you changed the way the position is played and taught. Your influence & legacy extend much further than your accolades. Thank you
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2. He wasn’t a system QB; he was the system
(Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)
Unlike many of the other all-time great quarterbacks, Manning has had success under several different coaches. Tom Brady has Bill Belichick and Joe Montana had Bill Walsh, while Manning’s career is not tied to a single coach. He made Super Bowls with defensive coaches (John Fox and Tony Dungy) and offensive coaches (Gary Kubiak and Jim Caldwell). The coaches changed, but Manning’s offense remained. When he was breaking records in Denver, he was still running the same stuff he ran back in Indianapolis.
“It’s identical. It looks the same to me,” Belichick said when asked in 2012 how much Denver’s offense differed from Indianapolis’.
Manning had become so proficient at running the handful of concepts he favored, his new coaches were smart enough not to force their playbooks on the future hall-of-famer.
3. He was the best offensive line in the league
It didn’t matter who you put in front of Manning, the pass rush wasn’t going to get to him. His mind worked with the efficiency of a computer. The ball was snapped, he hit the back of his drop and the ball was out. There just wasn’t enough time for the rush to get home. The offensive line needed to hold its ground for only a few ticks and its job was done.
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Sacks are a quarterback stat, Pt. MDCLXXIV: Brock Osweiler's sack rate is 9.1%, Peyton Manning's 4.45%.
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Manning finished first in sack rate (percentage of passing plays that end in a sack) six times over his last ten seasons and never finished outside of the top eight. In 2011, when Manning missed the season recovering from neck surgery, the Colts dropped to 14th and their sack rate doubled. The Broncos finished 26th the season before he arrived. They finished second in sack rate his first season.
4. He was a winner no matter what the popular narrative says
Matthew Emmons-USA TODAY Sports
Manning’s teams were always a shoo-in for the playoffs. After missing the postseason in 2001, his teams qualified in 13th consecutive seasons, winning at least ten games every year.
Some will write off Manning’s second ring because of Denver’s historically dominant defense but it was really the first time in his career that he rode his defense to wins.
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Manning gets criticized for his playoff performance and that’s a bit unfair. Poor games at New England in 2003 and 2004 started the “Manning is a choker” momentum. But look at his postseason stats compared to those of Brady, who is thought of as some sort of postseason demigod:
5. He was, literally, the most valuable player ever
This may not seem like it has a lot of impact on the field but it does speak to the value Manning provided his teams.
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Peyton will leave the NFL with far and away the most career earnings of any player: $249 million, per @spotrac. Brady is at $163 million.
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The Colts and Broncos front offices gladly paid Manning top money and in return they got guaranteed playoff berths and elite offensive units. Manning was that good. He made underwhelming offensive lines look like impenetrable walls. He transformed no-name receivers into solid contributors (hello, Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon). He was proof that the right quarterback could mask whatever weaknesses an offense might have and that the right quarterback was worth paying top-dollar for.
Throughout his career, Manning singed three contracts worth more than $90 million. The next wave of quarterbacks can thank Manning for setting the precedent for what a franchise passer’s contract looks like.
Is Aaron Rodgers ready to take over Peyton's place as G.O.A.T.?
Among the NFL’s best quarterbacks, here’s a list of categories in which he now ranks first all-time:
• Passer rating, 104.1
• Interception rate, 1.5 percent
• Adjusted yards per pass attempt, 8.49
• Adjusted net yards per pass attempt, 7.48
How many of you think he is the best to ever play the game? Rodgers also ranks top-10 all-time in completion percentage (65.7), passing yards per game (259.3), yards per pass attempt (7.9) and touchdown rate (6.4). He’s ranked either first or second in fantasy scoring 7 of the past 9 years, which is Manning-esq.
Among the NFL’s best quarterbacks, here’s a list of categories in which he now ranks first all-time:
• Passer rating, 104.1
• Interception rate, 1.5 percent
• Adjusted yards per pass attempt, 8.49
• Adjusted net yards per pass attempt, 7.48
How many of you think he is the best to ever play the game? Rodgers also ranks top-10 all-time in completion percentage (65.7), passing yards per game (259.3), yards per pass attempt (7.9) and touchdown rate (6.4). He’s ranked either first or second in fantasy scoring 7 of the past 9 years, which is Manning-esq.
I think Rodgers is the best QB playing the game today, and has been for several years. But I'll save GOAT talk for later in his career.
Brady is almost universally considered the GOAT across the board at this point, I think Rodgers even said so. Hell the cover of Madden says so. Just enjoy it while it lasts. It's been a hell of a ride watching the greatest to ever do it do it every Sunday.
I like Aaron Rodgers, he has great accuracy and is a joy to watch play. Rodgers is way better than P.Manning was. He makes fewer mistakes and is better when he doesn't have supreme talent at the skill positions. Plus his career didn't fall off the face of the Earth quite literally the very MONTH that HGH testing began.
Nobody who isn't a head-up-Lombardi's-ass Packers fan actually believes that Rodgers is better than Brady. They're just trying to antagonize Patriots fans and other smart people into paying attention to them.
It's Brady and a half step down from Brady is Montana. And a half step down from that are about four or so other people, one of whom is Rogers. Others would likely be Unitas, Marino, Elway. One or two rungs below that is the Manning, Favre level.
Nothing's funnier than looking at Rodger's postseason record. One other interesting stat: When down by 9+ points in the 2nd half, Brady has more than triple the number of successful comebacks in his career than Rodgers has had, and in fewer opportunities (despite the longer career).
Let's say your team in in a rough spot, 3rd down with 11 or more yards to go.
last year...
On 3rd down with 11 or more yards to go, Aaron Rodgers completed 65.5% of his passes (19-29) for an average of 10.76 yards, with a passer rating of 73.4, with 3 INTs
On 3rd down with 11 or more yards to go, Drew Brees completed 67.9% of his passes (19-28) for an average of 8.93 yards, with a passer rating of 89.9, with 2 INTs
On 3rd down with 11 or more yards to go, Andrew Luck completed 69.6% of his passes (16-23) for an average of 9.78 yards, with a passer rating of 82.7, with 1 INT
On 3rd down with 11 or more yards to go, Tom Brady completed 78.9% of his passes (15-19) for an average of 11.58 yards, with a passer rating of 132.5, with no INTs
One of these is nothing like the others!
I like Aaron Rodgers, he has great accuracy and is a joy to watch play. Rodgers is way better than P.Manning was. He makes fewer mistakes and is better when he doesn't have supreme talent at the skill positions. Plus his career didn't fall off the face of the Earth quite literally the very MONTH that HGH testing began.
Nobody who isn't a head-up-Lombardi's-ass Packers fan actually believes that Rodgers is better than Brady. They're just trying to antagonize Patriots fans and other smart people into paying attention to them.
It's Brady and a half step down from Brady is Montana. And a half step down from that are about four or so other people, one of whom is Rogers. Others would likely be Unitas, Marino, Elway. One or two rungs below that is the Manning, Favre level.
Nothing's funnier than looking at Rodger's postseason record. One other interesting stat: When down by 9+ points in the 2nd half, Brady has more than triple the number of successful comebacks in his career than Rodgers has had, and in fewer opportunities (despite the longer career).
Let's say your team in in a rough spot, 3rd down with 11 or more yards to go.
last year...
On 3rd down with 11 or more yards to go, Aaron Rodgers completed 65.5% of his passes (19-29) for an average of 10.76 yards, with a passer rating of 73.4, with 3 INTs
On 3rd down with 11 or more yards to go, Drew Brees completed 67.9% of his passes (19-28) for an average of 8.93 yards, with a passer rating of 89.9, with 2 INTs
On 3rd down with 11 or more yards to go, Andrew Luck completed 69.6% of his passes (16-23) for an average of 9.78 yards, with a passer rating of 82.7, with 1 INT
On 3rd down with 11 or more yards to go, Tom Brady completed 78.9% of his passes (15-19) for an average of 11.58 yards, with a passer rating of 132.5, with no INTs
One of these is nothing like the others!
Only one team, ever, has wanted their QB to throw 50+ passes in a game.
SB 51 was Tom Brady's 27th game throwing 50+ attempts (62), most in NFL history.
18-9 record.
No other QB has a winning record (min. 8 games)
Manning? 4-13.
truth:
SB 51 was Tom Brady's 27th game throwing 50+ attempts (62), most in NFL history.
18-9 record.
No other QB has a winning record (min. 8 games)
Manning? 4-13.
truth:
Manning and Rodgers are definitely the top two ever. It's too hard to separate them.
Brees is my dark horse #3.
Brady hands off for 3 rushing TDs. They are always near the league lead in rushing TDs.
The un-Manning. Not a stat-padder.
The un-Manning. Not a stat-padder.
From a guy who has posted more pro-Brady stats than ESPN, this comment comes off as a little...stupid.
No, you're basically doing the dumb sports bar argument equivalent of p-hacking.
What I find most amusing in all this...setting aside the arguments being made re: Brady vs. whomever..is the great effort a grown-ass man will expend in order to suck a player off in such an enthusiastic manner so often and thoroughly displayed in this and, well, any thread making even no more than mere mention of said player's name. smdh.
In 400 yard passing games, Brady's career record is 10-1. No other NFL QB with 5 or more games has a winning record in those games. Most teams pass like crazy in desperation to come back, and fail. Not the G.O.A.T.
For those of you suddenly enamored with Aaron Rodgers after you HGH boy, Peyton, retired....
This amazing stat was posted Sunday night:
Rodgers now has an 0-37 record against winning teams when trailing by more than 1 point in the 4th quarter. Something to think about, for sure, and quite a contrast to the G.O.A.T.
Rodgers has a 1-29 career record when trailing ANY team, winning or losing, by 8 or more points, at any time in a game. The one win was with a hail Mary.
If you are behind, Rodgers is not going to get it done. Basically, EVER. Brady has more 4th quarter Super Bowl comebacks than A-Fraud has substantial NFL comebacks (behind 8+), in total.
This amazing stat was posted Sunday night:
Rodgers now has an 0-37 record against winning teams when trailing by more than 1 point in the 4th quarter. Something to think about, for sure, and quite a contrast to the G.O.A.T.
Rodgers has a 1-29 career record when trailing ANY team, winning or losing, by 8 or more points, at any time in a game. The one win was with a hail Mary.
If you are behind, Rodgers is not going to get it done. Basically, EVER. Brady has more 4th quarter Super Bowl comebacks than A-Fraud has substantial NFL comebacks (behind 8+), in total.
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Moderators or opening poster, you might want to fix the thread title. "Tom Brady" is spelled "T-O-M B-R-A-D-Y" rather than "P-E-D M-A-N-N-I-N-G"
Thanks in advance for fixing it!
Thanks in advance for fixing it!
How is it that you still don't realize that you're being trolled? I mean how is that possible?
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