1,000,004. At 1:20 PM EDT, 5-17-2022

[outside shooter]

verified USA Covid death toll on the Johns Hopkins site: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

a 10-30% underestimate, based on "estimated deaths" calculations.


"But after the (2020) election it will just go away"

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Covid stats are unreliable.

Politicians have even destroyed trust in math.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Covid stats are unreliable.

Politicians have even destroyed trust in math.

The inevitable result of decades of a major political party rejecting the very concept of expertise.

 

[outside shooter]

Covid stats are unreliable.

Politicians have even destroyed trust in math.

The CDC counts 1,000,659

To get this figure they only count real, signed death certificates filed in each state that list COVID-19 as either a contribuiting factor or cause of death, and it typically has a two week lag time.

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

 

[Hoopsdoc1978]

The inevitable result of decades of a major political party rejecting the very concept of expertise.

To the point where they can’t even define what a woman is.

 

[outside shooter]

To the point where they can’t even define what a woman is.

it's fairly clear what a dead person is

 

[Lucy01]

it's fairly clear what a dead person is

That’s an easy one, a dead person is a Democrat voter!

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

The CDC counts 1,000,659

To get this figure they only count real, signed death certificates filed in each state that list COVID-19 as either a contribuiting factor or cause of death, and it typically has a two week lag time.

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

"contributing factor" = "tested positive"

Same old game - guy has a fatal aneurysm blowout, dies, tests positive, he gets listed as a Covid death.

 

[Indianaftw]

Covid stats are unreliable.

Politicians have even destroyed trust in math.

Was there ever a political virus until Covid?

 

[bawlmer]

I read the other day about opinions increasingly being formed on the right via an endless stream of wisecracks. Seems about right.

 

[outside shooter]

"contributing factor" = "tested positive"

Same old game - guy has a fatal aneurysm blowout, dies, tests positive, he gets listed as a Covid death by the inept / overworked hospital staff, the case is reviewed by the CDC, it is flagged as miscategorized, and the case is discarded from the COVID stats.

I bolded the steps that you did not discuss

Sure, at the height of COVID you'd want to know whether the car wreck victim / aneurism also had covid when you are attempting to keep them alive. Basically, what ICU does he go to? But the results of that test only change the cause of death if somebody makes a mistake. Every case where this was alleged to have happened was a mistake at the hospital level that was fixed long before it was part of CDC stats.

many sites have debunked this
one:

Social Media Posts Make Baseless Claim on COVID-19 Death Toll - FactCheck.org

Viral posts wrongly suggest that the COVID-19 death toll is exaggerated because "the state" has instructed that "anyone who didnt die by a gun shot wound or car accident" be listed as a coronavirus victim. Experts say there is no such default classification -- and that the U.S. death count is...

www.factcheck.org

 

[outside shooter]

To add more context, 91.2 percent of covid-19 deaths have zero other contibuting factors whatsoever listed on the death certificate. The other 8.8% have at least one other contributor, which is not surprising given the number of elderly patients and the prevalence of things like diabetes, mild or moderate dementia, cancer, Alzheimer's, etc. in that population.

The only co-morbidity rising above 1% is heart disease, which is certainly exacerbated greatly by COVID.

Accidents represent 0.3%, but most of these are slip and falls by people becoming unconscious due to low oxygen from COVID. Car and motorcycle accidents represent 0.02% of the 0.3% accident category.

DId a few slip through the cracks due to error. Maybe. Does it change 1,000,004 to 900,000? No way. Maybe it changes 1,000,004 to 999,904.

^Data from the CDC: https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D157/D270F839

Are Car Accidents Getting Labeled as “COVID Deaths”?

Of all the increases in mortality in 2020, one that is notable is motor vehicle accidents. There were 43,045 deaths from motor vehicle accidents, according to the final CDC data. This means motor v…

economistwritingeveryday.com

 

[twenty02]

That’s an easy one, a dead person is a Democrat voter!

Ok.... this made me laugh.

 

[UncleMark]

To add more context, 91.2 percent of covid-19 deaths have zero other contibuting factors whatsoever listed on the death certificate. The other 8.8% have at least one other contributor, which is not surprising given the number of elderly patients and the prevalence of things like diabetes, mild or moderate dementia, cancer, Alzheimer's, etc. in that population.

The only co-morbidity rising above 1% is heart disease, which is certainly exacerbated greatly by COVID.

Accidents represent 0.3%, but most of these are slip and falls by people becoming unconscious due to low oxygen from COVID. Car and motorcycle accidents represent 0.02% of the 0.3% accident category.

DId a few slip through the cracks due to error. Maybe. Does it change 1,000,004 to 900,000? No way. Maybe it changes 1,000,004 to 999,904.

^Data from the CDC: https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D157/D270F839

Are Car Accidents Getting Labeled as “COVID Deaths”?

Of all the increases in mortality in 2020, one that is notable is motor vehicle accidents. There were 43,045 deaths from motor vehicle accidents, according to the final CDC data. This means motor v…

economistwritingeveryday.com

Hoax. Deep State. Hunter's laptop. Russia. Inflation.

 

[Bowlmania]

"contributing factor" = "tested positive"

Same old game - guy has a fatal aneurysm blowout, dies, tests positive, he gets listed as a Covid death.

Let's ignore Covid stats for a moment then and just look at deaths.
,
That's quite an unprecedented spike in mortality. Golly, I wonder what caused it?

Pandemic Disrupted Historical Mortality Patterns, Caused Largest Jump in Deaths in 100 Years

The United States experienced its largest increase in deaths between 2019 and 2020, when the COVID-19 pandemic began.

www.census.gov

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

To add more context, 91.2 percent of covid-19 deaths have zero other contibuting factors whatsoever listed on the death certificate. The other 8.8% have at least one other contributor, which is not surprising given the number of elderly patients and the prevalence of things like diabetes, mild or moderate dementia, cancer, Alzheimer's, etc. in that population.

The only co-morbidity rising above 1% is heart disease, which is certainly exacerbated greatly by COVID.

Accidents represent 0.3%, but most of these are slip and falls by people becoming unconscious due to low oxygen from COVID. Car and motorcycle accidents represent 0.02% of the 0.3% accident category.

DId a few slip through the cracks due to error. Maybe. Does it change 1,000,004 to 900,000? No way. Maybe it changes 1,000,004 to 999,904.

^Data from the CDC: https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D157/D270F839

Are Car Accidents Getting Labeled as “COVID Deaths”?

Of all the increases in mortality in 2020, one that is notable is motor vehicle accidents. There were 43,045 deaths from motor vehicle accidents, according to the final CDC data. This means motor v…

economistwritingeveryday.com

This table is making their case for them.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

The inevitable result of decades of a major political party rejecting the very concept of expertise.

True, but it’s also the result of one party declaring Science! to be the Oracle of truth rather than trying to understand what feasible rational policy could be derived from it.