In our deep blue nations capital.


I don’t think they are worried about GOP voters from West Virginia.

@dbmhoosier whats the word on the ground? @mcmurtry66 how is the chili looking? Dream Teamers what are we drinking? @TheOriginalHappyGoat how cranky are you today? I need some answers.

I was wavering this morning about actually not voting. Reports in my area, for early voting centers, were almost universally multiple hour lines. And then this morning I woke up to pictures of my hometown voting center having lines wrapped around the building. I've been pretty outspoken about my disdain for both sides right now, and for both leading candidates. So the long lines were ample reason to sit it out.

But that wasn't sitting well with me. Voting is a civic duty, and my parents have instilled in me a pretty strong sense for that duty.

So, Facebook posts led me to a church a town over from me, that supposedly had short lines. Turns out, the lines were very manageable, and the wait wasn't overly long!

I was kinda pissed that the machines wouldn't let me write in Curt Cignetti for every race. I know he'd struggle to make the meetings, but he'd be a GREAT school board member for my school system!

As I witnessed the voting volunteers helping a disabled person more comfortably vote...and patiently helped an older voter figure out the machines, and the process to submit the votes...I was forced to lament the fact that there are thousands upon thousands of volunteers today, on both sides of the aisle, that are infinitely better people and better choices than many of the people on the ballots they're helping everyone cast today... But despite that frustration with the choices, I walked away proud that I did my duty. And I was comforted that, despite all the warnings, the BS fear mongering, from both sides...that we have the best, safest, and most fair election process in the world. Whoever wins today will have won. Some will try to cheat. Some will probably succeed, on both sides. But it won't decide the election.

I'll be surprised if we know tonight who won. But when we do know, I hope the losing side handles themselves with an ounce of the integrity that these volunteers are.

As per usual, we will dedicate one thread for dispassionate election night analysis, without political disagreement or policy debate. Didn't try to change minds in this thread, just discuss what's happening.

I'll start where we always start: which early results are you looking at to give you an idea the direction things might be going?

The first CFP rankings for the 2024 college football season will be released tonight at 7p Eastern (ESPN).

I will be watching and waiting for Indiana's position to be revealed. INDIANA's position!

If this is a dream, I don't ever wanna wake up.

Go Hoosiers!

Never wait at my poll - a school. All parking spots filled - 150 in line outside the door.

Could be a Constitutional Amendment here a trying to approve “public money for private schools” - or the Trump/Biden/Harris debacle.

Rumor is 2 hour wait.

What is going on here? First the one threatening voters by saying that their vote is public. Its not. And then a follow up says Mitch Daniels supports Braun. He does not. Are these texts really coming for the party?

So, what happens in 2028? If Harris loses, one assumes she will run in 2028 as the candidate who fell on her sword to try to defeat Trump. I don't know that the Democratic Party will buy that. There will be a battle between Newsome, Shapiro, and maybe Beshear. I expect Shapiro to win based on electability, he will win Pa and that is pretty close to a guaranteed D win in November. Shapiro-Beshear might be a tough ticket.

If Trump loses, one expects Vance to be the frontrunner but far from guaranteed. I think either Youngkin or DeSantis wins. Haley probably lost her shot by staying in against Trump. Assuming in this scenario Trump loses, Vance will carry that loss, I doubt he has the Teflon coating Trump has. The Senators (Cruz, Rubio, et al) always have a hard time winning.

I highly recommend this book for anyone who was ever even slightly into VH in the 80’s. A great trip down memory lane. It chronicles the beginnings of VH up to Roth’s departure. It’s also interesting to get some insight into the VH bros’ upbringing and the impact their immigrant to the US had on them/their family. No VanHagar stuff at all….

What's everyone's verdict on these special edition Bob Knight adidas shoes?

One thing I'm fairly certain of - Knight would have hated them.

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2024 Presidential Race.
Water cooler style.

…just lost at home. UNF went to Columbia and stunned SC.

The epitome of brutality.

Indiana football sets a new program mark with a 9-0 start, but are looking for more. Don Fischer joins to talk about the dominating performance from both sides of the ball in East Lansing and the weekend ahead as Michigan comes to Bloomington. Hear from Curt Cignetti and Kurtis Rourke. Indiana high School playoffs continue, and the Colts are, well, not good at the moment. Much more.
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They fly below my lowest expectations.

Marc Elias, Harris’s chief election lawyer warns all lawyers not to represent Trump lest they face loss of clients, loss of firm partnerships, or official license discipline.


Pull quote:

This is deliberate interference with the attorney client relationship. It interferes with the fair administration of justice. It’s attorney misconduct. There is no way to know whether future litigation about the 2024 election has merit or not. The democrats are running this message as a political ad with the only possible intent to suppress any questions about cheating.

This message, op ed and advertising should itself subject all the attorneys involved to discipline.

9/13 69% 3 pointers in first half.

TRUMP!

Suck it, Dems!

As a medicinal chemist, I deal with the concept of toxicity every day. Simply put, the concept of toxicity is meaningless without an association with a dose. The old saying (from the physician Paracelsus, in the 1500s!), is “it is the dose that makes the poison”. Everything is toxic at some dose: salt, sugar, baking soda, vinegar, tabasco sauce, aspirin, and even pure water. That doesn’t mean that each of those substances should be banned. Certainly, some things are toxic at even vanishingly small doses (many of the components in tobacco smoke, for instance), and so the logical recommendation is to avoid tobacco smoke (even secondhand smoke) completely. But that is not the case with most things, including fluoride.

I am not a dentist, but evidence shows that at the doses present in drinking water and toothpaste, it has clear benefits without measurable adverse effects. It’s why at my alma mater (Indiana University) chemists and dentists together invented fluorinated toothpaste in the 1950s, licensing the patent rights to Proctor and Gamble, who gave us Crest. 70 years ago, the clinical trials run in Bloomington Indiana showed a 30% reduction in cavities. Such studies have been validated over and over again, not just for toothpaste but also for fluoride added to public drinking water at a defined low dose.

This is another case where science is true, whether you choose to believe it or not.

RFK Jr. is a bigger quack than any duck.

I don’t get on much, but whatever happened to Bloom?

It's fun to look at the rankings and projections and to indulge in speculations but the most important thing is to be 1-0 against Michigan. We know the maize and blue have talent and I'm sure they will relish playing the role of spoiler. It sounds weird to say but in 2024 Michigan is a trap game. Michigan's lackluster 5-4 record, IU breaching the Top 12 nationally and thus being in the CFP picture, the looming showdown with Ohio State. Everybody's patting our guys on the back and telling them how great they are. There's no need to do anything differently, trust in the process that got you here, but stay focused on what's in front of you and deal with next week when it gets here. How many times in sports do we see teams drop the ball in situations like this? Danger Will Robinson! Rat poison alert.

And yes, I'm sure he'll do it before midnight, so it will be Tuesday.

I'm saying 11:00 pm Eastern.

Solid ranking for IU.

This is, of course, sensible and well thought out. I like Sam Harris a lot and whenever I see him in interviews or listen to his podcast, I often find myself agreeing with what he's saying. And his point about where he believes Harris stands on immigration, defunding the police, funding gender reassignment surgeries for imprisoned inmates and COVID conspiracies is spot on, IMO. All those things are boogeymen/strawmen arguments that no one actually takes seriously, save for people buying into the fear mongering from right-leaning campaigns. For what it's worth, a lot of the essay I linked above encapsulates why I voted for Harris.

Here's his case FOR Harris, which he admittedly spends little time on. It's definitely worth reading the whole essay linked above. It's short:


The positive case for Harris is simple: She will be a normal president, surrounded by normal experts, seeking normal political ends. The scientists she consults will be real scientists. The doctors, real doctors. Her administration will not be a 4chan thread come to life. Her foreign policy will not be made in consultation with podcasters who hock gold, ivermectin, and MREs. The notion of banning some vaccines will not receive serious consideration. Grifters and lunatics like Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, and Candace Owens won’t be short-listed for weekends in the Lincoln bedroom. The final stage of her campaign wasn’t organized and funded by an increasingly erratic billionaire who hallucinates about the strategic replacement of white America, and she will owe him no debt of gratitude. The positive case for Harris is easy to make: She is a sane public servant who will be committed to the rule of law and the betterment of our society.