Yeah but that doesn’t make him make up words , ramble on, and speak in word salad. But he has done that for years so who knows.
Who, on the Dem side, is a solid candidate that would certainly beat Trump?
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No, listen to interviews of him from 1980. He spoke in complete sentences coherently. He isn't close to that now. Both have problems. We might argue who is worse, I am not qualified to make that call especially from afar. But from mental capacity alone, neither should be president.
I need to learn more about Newsome. I like his disposition though. Views on leading a state vs. leading a nation are very different sets of priorities. He may see more liberal than most because he's the head of a normally pretty liberal state.
Much the same, I like Indiana's governor, Holcomb. He handled COVID extremely well, and while I don't share his thoughts on other issues, he's not divisive about it.
I can’t stand Newsom. His ex wife alone should subject him to impeachment
She'd be a markedly better President than either of the likely choices.
I think the days of joking about, really anyone, being fit to run, should be over.
I'd be fully in favor of Tom Hanks running, for either party...though I'm sure he's a Democrat. Just say, this is a 4-8 year role Tom, your biggest to date. All you have to do is study Abraham Lincoln, FDR, George Washington, etc... and pretend you're trying to be them. A professional actor pretending to be like history's greatest Presidents would probably be the best leader we've had in the last 30 years. And again, while that's obviously a joke...Trump and Biden...its not so funny any more.
He’d be so damn woke the cult would have four years of pure ecstasy. We’d replace the American flag with a mask
and paranoid, possibly paranoid schizophrenic, with active delusions of neverending victimhood.
He's probably the most politically talented big name on the Dem side. I wouldn't underestimate him. Pretty much guarantee he'll be running in '28, if not '24
his state better improve. people see the nightly news of once great cities now shitholes. cost of living untenable. draconian covid measures. on top of the current disdain amongst many independents for hollywood culture etc. and on top of the real and perceived exodus from the state by businesses and individuals. and for all the calif "economy" talk it has inherent benefits that should make it thrive compared to other states. guns germs and steel stuff
Well, we've technically already got actors who had the role of a leader becoming the actual leaders of their country....
So let's go with Kevin Kline for American President.
Now to really make it a trend, we need to get Gary Oldman or Brendan Gleeson as Prime Minister in the UK. Can I get a Huzzah?
kevin kline grew up in my neighborhood. he's an IU alum to boot. Too old tho. Bagged phoebe cates which for a certain generation is as good as it getsWell, we've technically already got actors who had the role of a leader becoming the actual leaders of their country....
So let's go with Kevin Kline for American President.
Now to really make it a trend, we need to get Gary Oldman or Brendan Gleeson as Prime Minister in the UK. Can I get a Huzzah?
Hmmm...OK. Younger actors then.
Paul Giamatti played John Adams. He is only 56.
Daniel Day Lewis played Lincoln. He is 66.
Kiefer Sutherland has played the president on both the big screen (Roosevelt) and the small (Designated Survivor). He is 56.
Rob Lowe as Kennedy. He is 59.
Then of course, there's Kevin Spacey, who played Nixon. He is 64 and would fit in perfectly with our current track record of presidents with less-than-savory reputations with the ladies.
Ultimately though, we need Josh Brolin. 55 years old. Played George W. Bush. And we know that he can make the hard choices as, well duh, HE"S FREAKIN' THANOS!!!!
And all of this sounds like a joke...until we face the reality of what we've had the last 6 years.
Every single person you mentioned in this post, absurd as it sounds, would likely be better President's then either Trump or Biden.
I know he could get the job, but could he do it?I know he is too old, but this guy was the GOAT...
(Joe vs. The Volcano, for those scratching their heads)
The “woke cult” is a conservative boogeyman and the vast majority of Americans don’t see it like you do.
Once again, for the eighth time in nine presidential elections, the dems will win the popular vote and that trend seems to be pretty solid. Look what happened in 2022, when the republicans should’ve won big.
I think Grenell is correct. Good chance of it being Whitmer. Baris has said all along she's the strongest Dem candidate against Trump.
If by politically talented you mean a photogenic smooth talker, he is your man. His substance is either horribly bad or banal platitudes. He already is walking back some of his worst positions, so you are right that he is warming up to run.
Larry Hogan and Phil Scott are Republicans, albeit from very blue states.
Agree that Haley is the best suited GOP candidate to win a general election.
I've been on Team Shapiro since I heard him last year during his campaign for governor. Glad to see you guys are coming around.
That's her biggest flaw and to your point, I don't hold it against her. I don't agree with all of her political views, but she is more moderate than many others being floated around.
is that before or after his many stumbles? And I'm talking literal (airplane, bike, stage, etc.) and mental (walking out at the wrong time, freezing up, babbling about the wrong thing)?
Say what you want about Trump, but he's sharper than Biden and has much better balance still, even if he looks fat.
People are very concerned about Biden's age. Trump is only marginally younger, I guess Biden "seems" older.
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Biden is a mental and physical mess. Aside from the mental shortcomings at times, do you not remember these?
I'm not sure Pete is as likable now as he was the first time around to be honest. His performance in his cabinet role has been lackluster and he's caught some heat for issues (railroad derailments, etc.), even if they aren't really his fault.
To answer the OP’s question, I’m not sure I can think of a Democrat politician, along with various business leaders, celebrities, or military leaders, who wouldn’t beat Trump. Hell, Tom Crean would beat Trump if his handlers bought him a well fitted suit.
Isn’t it hilarious all the shit Trump caught and still catches for his weight or tip-toeing down the icy ramp in dress shoes?? But, for the above…Biden is a mental and physical mess. Aside from the mental shortcomings at times, do you not remember these?
Icy? Icy? What the hell are you talking about?Isn’t it hilarious all the shit Trump caught and still catches for his weight or tip-toeing down the icy ramp in dress shoes?? But, for the above…
Trump's ramp failure was in mid-June!
Slippery, whatever. Thanks for proving the point though. Does this 👇 not register? Earth to Stuffshot, are you there??
