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Trump Trial - New York

What do you think is the most likely outcome in the New York trial?

  • A guilty verdict on some or all of the counts

  • An acquittal ("total exoneration!")

  • A hung jury (jury cannot reach a unanimous decision and a mistrial is declared)

  • Trump pleads guilty to something prior to a verdict being rendered

  • Other (for example, a mistrial based on something other than a hung jury)


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I started reading this and thought the writer was going to provide information without his opinion

I got as far as “I was going to also about the election and the disgrthqy followed it”. I stopped reading
I can't decipher that.

Regardless, it's worth reading. I won't argue that he doesn't have a slant. You can get past that if you're interested.
 
he's handcuffed himself there. he can't tell his hardcore base stuff like that. but I'd love to be in the room as he and his strategists try to walk the line.
I was going to say it’s literally in an interview with a major publication but then I remembered it’s in Time.

No one, especially anyone who would vote for Trump, takes Time seriously.

It was all I could do to get through that tripe.
 
These aren't legal briefs being submitted. It's a message board. People offer opinions, and his was stated clearly. I've noticed this recent trend where you're parsing words of anti-Trump posters, putting posts under intense scrutiny and treating them as though they're assignments to be graded or dissertations to be defended. In fact, you seem to recognize this yourself, e.g. "I know I'm analyzing your words very closely." Yes, too closely. It's annoying.
Being exact with your language is annoying. And yep, it’s required in a legal brief because things are treated seriously. I recognize it’s much harder than just throwing out exaggerations and platitudes.

Real thinking requires “intense scrutiny” and “defending” ideas and language. If you're not up for it, I get it. It’s not everyone’s cup of tea.
 
Objectivity is hard when you're dealing with such a vile subject.
I Agree Barack Obama GIF by The Democrats
 
Hell, he swore he wouldn’t seek a 3rd term and would leave peacefully after his second term if he were to be elected,
...and you believe him.
That's the first problem.

Here's a good couple of "rules of thumb" you should probably use with regards to Trump for future reference.

1) If something good happened because Trump did something, he's likely exaggerating at best (this is the greatest economy ever) or he's probably lying.
2) If Trump says that he will do something in the future that his base wants (ie, release a health care plan in two weeks, prosecute Hillary, build a 40' wall covering the entire Mexican border and have them pay for it, etc.), he's probably lying.
3) If something bad happened and Trump says that it's liberals, deep state, or the media out to get him, he's lying (it's likely his fault).
4) If Trump tells you that he is smarter than "insert X profession here", he's lying.



You know, on second thought, it would probably be safer to just assume that everything he says is a lie....
 
...and you believe him.
That's the first problem.

Here's a good couple of "rules of thumb" you should probably use with regards to Trump for future reference.

1) If something good happened because Trump did something, he's likely exaggerating at best (this is the greatest economy ever) or he's probably lying.
2) If Trump says that he will do something in the future that his base wants (ie, release a health care plan in two weeks, prosecute Hillary, build a 40' wall covering the entire Mexican border and have them pay for it, etc.), he's probably lying.
3) If something bad happened and Trump says that it's liberals, deep state, or the media out to get him, he's lying (it's likely his fault).
4) If Trump tells you that he is smarter than "insert X profession here", he's lying.



You know, on second thought, it would probably be safer to just assume that everything he says is a lie....
Please point out where I said I believed him.
 
Trump didn’t attend a single high school or college graduation for any of his kids? Damn, that’s cold.
Yup.

Here's something else that's cold:

Trump married to Melania, January 22, 2005.

Melania's age at marriage, 34 (born April 26, 1970)

How Melania looked at her wedding:

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Barron Trump born, March 20, 2006.

Alleged affair with Stormy Daniels, July, 2006.

Trump's age on July, 2006: 60.

Since Trump wasn't even thinking about his supermodel wife just four months after his son was born (just 18 months after their marriage), why would anyone think Trump ever gave a rat's ass about his son Barron?
 
I liked the flag pole story.
I really like these true stories about Trump like, you know, burying a previous wife on a golf course just to get a tax reduction and then letting her grave grow up with weeds:


When Trump treats his loved ones like that, why would all the thinking Trump supporters (strangers to him all) think he'll treat them any better?
 
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i bet he's scared to death of her to boot. you know she has so much shit on him. he wouldn't do shit if she was fooling around
Seriously?

Why wouldn't he just say the shit he always says about the judges and prosecutors and everyone else?

I can hear it now:

It's a witch hunt .... by a real witch.

I hardly knew her.

She wasn't with me very long.

We only used her to make copies and bring in the coffee.

That's not her photo -- that's Marla, no wait, that's Stormy, well maybe it's Ivana. It's a bad picture -- I really can't tell.

It could be Jill, too. It's really a bad picture.
 
i disagree with you. and i think your take is exaggerated. he didn't assemble an arsenal of weapons etc and he filed lawsuits etc to challenge the election. and i realize to a certain degree i'm glossing over some of it. that being said and as i have belabored i think nothing compares to the health of this country like progressives. but if you think otherwise re trump i personally disagree but am totally okay with it and respect your take. what annoys the hell out of me are the posters who feel like you but instead of saying that try to prop up biden like he's been a good president etc. I won’t tolerate it. I can’t tolerate it!
He did a lot more than that and you know it. He did nothing in December except plot to stay in office. Why do you think everyone connected with him pled the Fifth? Why did Eastman go to jail? He was plotting to overturn the election even before the election happened. God forbid he is in office again.
 
The attempted flush was 2020. The fact that he's allowed to run in 2024 and possibly win is the completion of that flush. The flush analogy fails because he'd be a treasonous turd floating to the top.
The only reason Republicans didn’t vote for conviction was because they knew that Trump was through, after trying to plot an insurrection. If the vote had been secret, he would have been in a landslide. Even Republicans did not realize how stupid and cult like their base is. And now , as a result, they have to deal with an even more dangerous Trump with no adults in the room.
 
Bwaaahahahaha OMG thanks for that. The levels of TDS the msm has created are baffling. It's like its followers are putty in their palm.

I was just thinking after watching all these college riots and kids with masks. If the msm ever even hinted that there was a germ, bacteria, virus or whatever and there are a couple cases already here. There would be massive masks the next day. That's how absolutely whacked TV followers have become. LOLOL. Silly Putty
#trumpcult
 
Seemed like a lot of fear porn by the author compared to Trumps actual words.

Hell, he swore he wouldn’t seek a 3rd term and would leave peacefully after his second term if he were to be elected, which I didn’t know he had actually said. I always wondered why he didn’t stress that in the lead up to the 2024 election, considering how his last term ended.
Oh you take Trump at his word? Listen to his speeches at rallies. He cares about nothing but revenge in round 2. And staying out of jail.
 
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Lmao let’s go issue by issue. Border. Energy. Prices. Crime. Left progressives vs right. Redistribution. We have two bodies of work to compare. I don’t deal in speculation. Let’s look at the numbers. Prices. Gas. Border crossings. Etc. And I read the transcript. Not the article. Enforcing the border. Booting illegals. Supporting cops. Fine by me. Compared to AOC running the country? Please. Nothing is more dangerous to this country than progressives. Nothing.
Y-A-W-N. That's so wrong.

Nothing matters more to a democracy than acceptance of obviously fair elections and acceptance of an obviously fair judicial system (not perfect but still fair). Especially wrong is your automatic, blind labeling of everything you disagree with as "left" and "progressive", which are meaningless except as dogwhistles to the MAGAs.

You belong on Trump's campaign team, even though you repeatedly claim you don't like Trump. Good job.

Look at it this way: Biden will let you vote for the other guy with no objection; Trump won't.

Trump can't accept the idea that he won't win every election. That's the guy you support.
 
The bottom line is that posters write so and so is worse. But issue by issue they don’t back up the assertion with data. And if you debunk same they disappear. It’s their vacuous emotions and feelings that are on display. Nothing more. Let’s pray for them now
Yep. That's what posters do.

By the way, you are a poster too, aren't you?
 
Here's something else that's cold:

Trump married to Melania, January 22, 2005.

Melania's age at marriage, 34 (born April 26, 1970)

How Melania looked at her wedding:

3ed36ed68661cfb5bd5280f9575869ba--melania-knauss-trump-fashion-wedding-dress.jpg


Barron Trump born, March 20, 2006.

Alleged affair with Stormy Daniels, July, 2006.

Trump's age on July, 2006: 60.

Since Trump wasn't even thinking about his supermodel wife just four months after his son was born (just 18 months after their marriage), why would anyone think Trump ever gave a rat's ass about his son Barron?
Y-A-W-N. That's so wrong.

Nothing matters more to a democracy than acceptance of obviously fair elections and acceptance of an obviously fair judicial system (not perfect but still fair). Especially wrong is your automatic, blind labeling of everything you disagree with as "left" and "progressive", which are meaningless except as dogwhistles to the MAGAs.

You belong on Trump's campaign team, even though you repeatedly claim you don't like Trump. Good job.

Look at it this way: Biden will let you vote for the other guy with no objection; Trump won't.

Trump can't accept the idea that he won't win every election. That's the guy you support.
I’ve posted in other threads exactly how his policies are progressive and he is the most progressive president since fdr. I won’t take the time to do it again for you bc 1) you’re partisan with tunnel vision and 2) you simply aren’t very bright
 
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I’ve posted in other threads exactly how his policies are progressive and he is the most progressive president since fdr. I won’t take the time to do it again for you bc 1) you’re partisan with tunnel vision and 2) you simply aren’t very bright
Who cares what you maybe "posted" elsewhere?

Calling me names does not do anything whatsoever except to prove that you are using the exact same tactics as Trump.

You are using the "big lie" tactic. Don't you realize this?
 
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Who cares what you maybe "posted" elsewhere?

Calling me names does not do anything whatsoever except to prove that you are using the exact same tactics as Trump.

You are using the "big lie" tactic. Don't you realize this?
what i posted elsewhere i just tagged you in as it answers questions you refuse to ask and certainly won't learn from. people are willing to overlook quite a bit to get rid of this moron

 
what i posted elsewhere i just tagged you in as it answers questions you refuse to ask and certainly won't learn from. people are willing to overlook quite a bit to get rid of this moron

How do you think you previously "tagged" me with anything whatsoever?!

Your Post 830 provided no links whatsoever to anything before my post that you apparently disagree with.

Again, who cares what you claim you previously posted? Just MAGAs. Do you have Trump 2024 rubber knee pads for your weak soccer knees?
 
How do you think you previously "tagged" me with anything whatsoever?!

Your Post 830 provided no links whatsoever to anything before my post that you apparently disagree with.

Again, who cares what you claim you previously posted? Just MAGAs. Do you have Trump 2024 rubber knee pads for your weak soccer knees?
Wtf are you talking about you stupid ass. Issue by issue with citations. Did you miss it?
 
How do you think you previously "tagged" me with anything whatsoever?!

Your Post 830 provided no links whatsoever to anything before my post that you apparently disagree with.

Again, who cares what you claim you previously posted? Just MAGAs. Do you have Trump 2024 rubber knee pads for your weak soccer knees?
And that’s the thing you never talk issues. It’s just your stupid maga buzzwords crap. Bc you’re a Fing moron. A vapid Harris dumb shit.
 
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Wait...

Is banging Stormy Daniels, while you're married to some E European smokeshow golddigger, a bad thing?
I love that he’s on trial for election interference but the testimony is that he wanted to keep it from his wife 🤣🤣🤣. So not only does he have criminal shit to deal with he has to go home and deal with her 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. He is one funny fckr. Alford plea. Save it. Not trump. Always the hard way 🤣🤣

I would love to spend a day with him
 
I love that he’s on trial for election interference but the testimony is that he wanted to keep it from his wife 🤣🤣🤣. So not only does he have criminal shit to deal with he has to go home and deal with her 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. He is one funny fckr. Alford plea. Save it. Not trump. Always the hard way 🤣🤣

I would love to spend a day with him
Why even mess around with the hush money?

Reporter: "Is it true....?"

Trump: " Yeah, I ****ed her."

Simple. No one would care.

Just get gas under $3, rates under 5%, and a fast food value metal under $5. Winner.
 
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