And if Joe can't finish his 4 years, Obama wouldn't be elected.....
Good point.
Trump indicted….again
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Good point.
That's what people said to Sam Adams..... (not the beer maker).
Except they were in discussion about turning over the documents when the Gestap.....er, FBI, raided Mar a Lago.
There are those that blindly follow procedure and then there are those that follow blind procedure.
I respect both, as they entered with the equal same good intentions and risked all. The later, though, are traitors to their fellow citizens to whom they fight for to start with.
Don’t even try to equate Trumpsters with American Revolutionaries. It’s absurd.
said the gay anti american pretender. You made a carrier because Trumpster types divided you from your type from british controllers.
We are there again, but it's all local now. We've allowed our own people to become a little to big for their own britches.
That’s some seriously deranged stuff there. You need to take a time out because that is nuts.
You need to look at that periscope again. You obviously don't see the danger that you are causing.
I think they are more aligned with the likes of Jefferson Davis or John Wilkes Booth.
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Chuckie wasn’t kidding. This isn’t about a crime as there is none. This is about stopping his second term as they know he’ll burn the deep state to the ground. Kerik said last night on Newsmax that their next move is likely another 1963 if this fails. Pray for Trump and the country.
Why would anyone believe Trump seriously engaged "in discussion about turning over the documents" when he repeatedly told the whole world that he had a right to them and that he had declassified them? Those things are inconsistent.
I suggest you put both of those dipshits on ignore and move on with your life.
Trump wants it public so that he can play the victim and grift off of people that want to help him fight this travesty.
Boiler Buck is likely writing out his check to Trump right now.
You mean like women being able to make their own choices, Disney getting to exercise their first amendment rights, schools getting to put books in the library?
Yea, republicans really want us to live freely lol
Coming from someone that has no problem lying/refusing to accept the election results... lmao that you actually care about honest elections now.
When Biden said this, most of us thought it was more of his harmless jibber jabber. Turns out he meant it.
“We just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if he does run, making sure he — under legitimate efforts of our Constitution — does not become the next president again,” Biden said.
Trump brought all this shit upon himself with his actions after the last election. He deserves to be in prison, regardless of the legal maneuvers necessary to achieve. Capone got 11 years in fed prison for 5 counts of tax evasion.
I don’t want a felon in office. I also don’t want the government to limit my choices about who serves in government with highly selective and political prosecutions.
Yeah Trump did bring this on himself. So what?
The DOJ and FBI were notorious for ignoring the 4th amendment as it went after Capone and the mob. Arguably that was a good thing. But your mob comparison doesn’t hold up when a leading candidate for POTUS is the target.
So a former US president, in word and deed, essentially says "Fvck elections, fvck the court system, fvck national security, fvck the Constitution and fvck the rule of law," yet it's those of us who oppose this - - and those who are endeavoring to bring him to justice for his many crimes - - who are the problem? There is some seriously fvcked up thinking in this thread, and the troubling thing is there are millions more living in that alternate universe.
I think there is serious possibility that the leaked audio that he had classified documents in his possession played a big role here. If anyone can say they saw said documents, this case is far more real than it was a month ago.
The powers that be tend to not pursue documents cases against bigwigs unless there is a coverup or willfully avoiding return. That quote gives them this.
Now, they will need someone to say they have seen the document or they find that document. Without that, there is a serious question about the document, I think we all suspect Trump would lie if it would make him sound more important. So his statement alone isn't all that and a bag of chips.
The powers that be tend to not pursue documents cases against bigwigs unless there is a coverup or willfully avoiding return. That quote gives them this.
Now, they will need someone to say they have seen the document or they find that document. Without that, there is a serious question about the document, I think we all suspect Trump would lie if it would make him sound more important. So his statement alone isn't all that and a bag of chips.
The document itself isn't the salient concern. It's his state of mind that is important. The recording shows he knows/knew that whatever document he held (real or imagined) wasn't automatically declassified because he took it or mind fvcked it or did whatever.
I think the importance of the trump audio is that it proves that he knew he had classified documents (meaning he knew about taking them and knew they weren't declassified).
I think it would be difficult to claim he was lying about having classified documents in order to sound important when classified documents were found at his residence. It would take some masterful maneuver to get the judge/jury to believe Trump was both lying to sound important and unaware that his lie was accidently the truth.
If they can prove someone without clearance saw the documents, then that likely adds another level to the indictments (i would think).
My prediction with respect to this prosecution: Trump saw the monetary value of the docs and was hoping/planning to cash in.
Note to Trump lovers: This is a federal case. Except for John Durham, the feds don't lose criminal prosecutions. Trump will either plead to something significant (perhaps in exchange for no jail time) or be found guilty at trial.
Has anyone ever seen Mark Levin and Joe Hoopsier in the same room? LOL
I wouldn’t be too happy libs. You’ll be next.
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
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Hot take from the "lock her up" set.
It continues to amaze me that the simple principle "No one should be above the law" is difficult for so many on here to accept. Get help. Cults are not good.
If Trump had documents, and if as in the audio was showing them to people, what do you think should happen to Trump?
Trump has blazed many "never seen before" paths. I wouldn't be so sure.
The very, very real and dangerous possibilities these indictments bring, is they could be electing him as President again.
If they don't end up with him actually in jail, and/or actually disqualified from running any more, they will boost his popularity. No matter what comes of them, anything short of those 2 things...and he's going to ride them like a rented mule.
The reason he lost in 20 was because enough middle-ish people were sick and tired of all the "Trump-crap"...to the point where they voted against him. Give him even the slightest shred of "martyrdom", and these indictments will give him more than a shred...and he'll get more than enough of those people back to win both the primary and the general. ESPECIALLY if Biden is the candidate...
Not saying he shouldn't be indicted. Just saying that if there is any political theater involved, its likely going to backfire, big time.
