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I looked at that a while back and with my limited knowledge I do think they have the right to keep him off.Colorado Supreme Court rules Trump disqualified from holding presidency
A group of voters want Trump off the ballot, citing the Constitution's insurrectionist ban. Trump has vowed a swift appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.www.msnbc.com
I looked at that a while back and with my limited knowledge I do think they have the right to keep him off.
I agree. But just as hard cases make bad law, clear cases sometimes can make bad politics. Keeping him off the ballot might be technically correct, but it will be damaging to the country in the long run.I looked at that a while back and with my limited knowledge I do think they have the right to keep him off.
The Confederates who were barred from office weren't convicted of anything, either.Based on opinion vs conviction? He hasn’t been convicted of these actions yet, has he? Seems like a bit of a slippery slope.
Based on opinion vs conviction? He hasn’t been convicted of these actions yet, has he? Seems like a bit of a slippery slope.
The Confederates who were barred from office weren't convicted of anything, either.
It goes something like this:
The 14th says those who engaged in insurrection are disqualified.
Trump engaged in insurrection.
He's disqualified.
Yes, since it was an application of the exact same Constitutional provision.Is that an appropriate analogy?
Conviction not neededBased on opinion vs conviction? He hasn’t been convicted of these actions yet, has he? Seems like a bit of a slippery slope.
It's a Civil War era amendment with zero application today. Applies to Robert E Lee and the like who took up arms against the government. You libs are completely insane. Again, this will be easily overturned.It goes something like this:
The 14th says those who engaged in insurrection are disqualified.
Trump engaged in insurrection.
He's disqualified.
I don’t know Dbm. You know how I feel about Biden. Worst prez ever. But when I read about this a while back I remember thinking they could get trump with this one.It's a Civil War era amendment with zero application today. Applies to Robert E Lee and the like who took up arms against the government. You libs are completely insane. Again, this will be easily overturned.
I’ll bet anyone here the SCt won’t allow this.I agree. But just as hard cases make bad law, clear cases sometimes can make bad politics. Keeping him off the ballot might be technically correct, but it will be damaging to the country in the long run.
It’d sure be sticking it to trump if this caught on. Old Dbm would be out there blocking trafficI’ll bet anyone here the SCt won’t allow this.
Politically, this is the best thing that could happen to Republicans. Legally, I don’t think it can stand.It’d sure be sticking it to trump if this caught on. Old Dbm would be out there blocking traffic
He tried to stay in power after losing the election. Not being on the ballot should be down his list of concerns; or least behind bring publicly hanged.It goes something like this:
The 14th says those who engaged in insurrection are disqualified.
Trump engaged in insurrection.
He's disqualified.
If true, it says more about Colorado than it does Trump.Per the Kommie channel.
Dbm we can’t beat these no good Dems. We lose at every turn. We’re trying to get rides to go vote before the precinct closes and they’re counting theirs in the mail for months. We’re selling gold bars and survival buckets while they’re pulling out scrolls of law that we didn’t know about. We don’t have a chanceIt's a Civil War era amendment with zero application today. Applies to Robert E Lee and the like who took up arms against the government. You libs are completely insane. Again, this will be easily overturned.
It doesn't even apply to the President. Learn to read.
What happens when Wisconsin tries the same?I was just in Colorado for two weeks, and will be heading back in another week but is there any chance in hell they would vote for Trump anyway?
Seems unlikely. Not that the Colorado Supreme Court isn’t another example of evil progressives at work or that taking him off the ballot isn’t horribly unjust…
As far as results, I’m or sure it means much.
And what does it say to the flag waving Lauren Boebert's who make up 40+% of the state and work the jobs and pay the taxes? You think they'll want to stay in that Marxist hell hole?I was just in Colorado for two weeks, and will be heading back in another week but is there any chance in hell they would vote for Trump anyway?
Seems unlikely. Not that the Colorado Supreme Court isn’t another example of evil progressives at work or that taking him off the ballot isn’t horribly unjust…
As far as results, I’m or sure it means much.
Liberal Democrat yahoos.Politically, this is the best thing that could happen to Republicans. Legally, I don’t think it can stand.
CoH, what kinda yahoos you got on that Colorado court?
Fun fact. I was acquaintances with Governor Scott Walker’s son. The union assassin. Spent the 4th of July at the Wisconsin Governors mansion one year pre his uninspiring 2016 presidential run.What happens when Wisconsin tries the same?
That analysis defies common sense. So the jurisdictional element would pertain to everyone save the prez and vice bc they aren’t contemplated as an officer.A decent run down of why Section 3 doesn’t apply to Trump:
Nope. You got it.That analysis defies common sense. So the jurisdictional element would pertain to everyone save the prez and vice bc they aren’t contemplated as an officer.
Am I construing that incorrectly?
I looked at that a while back and with my limited knowledge I do think they have the right to keep him off.
Trump never fired a shot against the United States, nor did he command others to do so. All he did was give a speech. Calling that an insurrection will cause problems that we can never solve.I don’t know Dbm. You know how I feel about Biden. Worst prez ever. But when I read about this a while back I remember thinking they could get trump with this one.
That would be an important point if we were talking about mere statute, but the 14th Amendment supersedes that restriction."The Constitution lists only three qualifications for the Presidency — the President must be at least 35 years of age, be a natural born citizen, and must have lived in the United States for at least 14 years."
The Executive Branch | The White House
From the President, to the Vice President, to the Cabinet, learn more about the Executive Branch of the government of the United States.www.whitehouse.gov
And that question/definition hasn’t been fleshed out in the last 150 years?Nope. You got it.
He hasn’t been charged with insurrection. No one has.It goes something like this:
The 14th says those who engaged in insurrection are disqualified.
Trump engaged in insurrection.
He's disqualified.
Criminal charges aren't necessary.He hasn’t been charged with insurrection. No one has.
Trump did much more than "give a speech."Trump never fired a shot against the United States, nor did he command others to do so. All he did was give a speech. Calling that an insurrection will cause problems that we can never solve.
This and the Smith trials will forever change the nature of the office of president. .