Top secret documents

[Marvin the Martian]

Top secret documents were found in Biden's former office. A US Attorney appointed by Trump has been assigned to investigate.

No idea if they are TS "only" or higher. I will trust the US attorney handles the investigation well. If the documents are more than Top Secret, Biden may need relieved of command. There are documents that there is no excuse for having.

 

[anon_6hv78pr714xta]

Top secret documents were found in Biden's former office. A US Attorney appointed by Trump has been assigned to investigate.

No idea if they are TS "only" or higher. I will trust the US attorney handles the investigation well. If the documents are more than Top Secret, Biden may need relieved of command. There are documents that there is no excuse for having.

So he had them before elected Prez?

 

[dbmhoosier]

They're paving the way for Gavin to take over. As predicted.

 

[IUINSB]

Found in Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement. Papers from Biden's time as VP.

 

[UncleMark]

Fvcking idiots. I'm as mad now as I was when the news about Hillary's email setup broke.

However, @Marvin the Martian , as far as being "relieved of command" is concerned, I don't see how that's even possible short of impeachment and removal.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics/joe-biden-classified-documents-upenn/index.html

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Fvcking idiots. I'm as mad now as I was when the news about Hillary's email setup broke.

However, @Marvin the Martian , as far as being "relieved of command" is concerned, I don't see how that's even possible short of impeachment and removal.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics/joe-biden-classified-documents-upenn/index.html

Impeachment is it, if it rises to that level. I am not thinking "normal" top secret does since it appears they cooperated.

 

[UncleMark]

So he had them before elected Prez?

Per CNN, they were discovered in November 2022, in an office he used periodically from 2017 until beginning the 2020 campain. No word on how long they'd been there, but I can't imagine them trying to claim they were moved there after he was sworn in.

 

[outside shooter]

Mishandling or misplacing classified documents is not good.

If it is lots (boxes and boxes), then even worse.

If there was lying about their existence, worse still.

If there was obstruction in locating them, even worse.

If you repeated denied that they exist and won't consider self-reporting and cooperation, even worse.

Go ahead and compare.

 

[IUINSB]

Mishandling or misplacing classified documents is not good.

If it is lots (boxes and boxes), then even worse.

If there was lying about their existence, worse still.

If there was obstruction in locating them, even worse.

If you repeated denied that they exist and won't consider self-reporting and cooperation, even worse.

Go ahead and compare.

It still ain't a good look.

 

[Hoopsdoc1978]

Found in Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement. Papers from Biden's time as VP.

Wait, what?

He still had top secret documents from when he was VP?

 

[Hoopsdoc1978]

Impeachment is it, if it rises to that level. I am not thinking "normal" top secret does since it appears they cooperated.

From the cnn article.

“The classified materials included some top-secret files with the “sensitive compartmented information” designation, also known as SCI, which is used for highly sensitive information obtained from intelligence sources.”

Oof.

 

[stollcpa]

Per CNN, they were discovered in November 2022, in an office he used periodically from 2017 until beginning the 2020 campain. No word on how long they'd been there, but I can't imagine them trying to claim they were moved there after he was sworn in.

So what’s the punishment?

 

[Hoopsdoc1978]

Per CNN, they were discovered in November 2022, in an office he used periodically from 2017 until beginning the 2020 campain. No word on how long they'd been there, but I can't imagine them trying to claim they were moved there after he was sworn in.

So he had them after his time as VP but before he was elected president.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

So what’s the punishment?

Hopefully, it will be the full extent, whatever that is.

 

[UncleMark]

So what’s the punishment?

Legally, at this point in time, I don't think there is one.

 

[Univee2]

So he had them after his time as VP but before he was elected president.

They cover his time when he was with the Secret Service in Poland and Ukraine.

 

[UncleMark]

So he had them after his time as VP but before he was elected president.

Apparently.

 

[IUINSB]

Hopefully, it will be the full extent, whatever that is.

Biden/Trump co-defendants. One trial saves taxpayer $$.

 

[IU_Hickory]

So what’s the punishment?

Why do you care? You haven't yet about Trump lying about having classified documents.

The same punishment as Trump would have had if he had just came clean when caught. Pretty much nothing.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Biden is the worst President we've ever had but this has deep state written all over it. They would never allow an 80 year old senile cadaver to go up against Trump next year

 

[stollcpa]

Why do you care? You haven't yet about Trump lying about having classified documents.

The same punishment as Trump would have had if he had just came clean when caught. Pretty much nothing.

I just asked a question. I assume the law will be applied to Biden like it was for Clinton. No big deal.

 

[IU_Hickory]

I just asked a question. I assume the law will be applied to Biden like it was for Clinton. No big deal.

Sorry if I made a bad assumption on your intentions.

I thinks it is bad that all 3 were found to have mishandled classified info. In cases where the person that is caught at least cooperates, I think there should be some repercussion, even if just a fine. But politicians unfortunately play by different rules.

 

[stollcpa]

Hopefully, it will be the full extent, whatever that is.

It won’t be any different than Clinton. No big deal.

 

[UncleMark]

I thinks it is bad that all 3 were found to have mishandled classified info. In cases where the person that is caught at least cooperates, I think there should be some repercussion, even if just a fine. But politicians unfortunately play by different rules.

I'd be inclined to think that there's a lot of "classified" stuff that doesn't amount to anything either. It would be human nature for people to get lackadaisical when they see stuff like a routine staff meeting agenda getting a classified imprint (I'm just making that example up).

 

[hookyIU1990]

Biden/Trump co-defendants. One trial saves taxpayer $$.

Hot bunk in the same cell to save even more!

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Biden is the worst President we've ever had but this has deep state written all over it. They would never allow an 80 year old senile cadaver to go up against Trump next year

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Is there an international contest to find the most paranoid conspiracy theory I don't know about?

Back in the 80s, I entered one for Omni Magazine. I suggested humans naturally live forever, but governments realized that humans living hundreds of years get disgruntled with their government, so governments invented "medicine" to actually keep lifespan short.

I suspect that will now catch on. I was ahead of my time

 

[UncleMark]

This is going to really mess things up for Garland and Jack Smith. Most people are able to understand the difference between Hillary's emails and the Mar A Lago documents cases. This will be much harder to differentiate. Smith had a slam dunk on the Trump documents case... until this. It will be really hard to make that case now without making a case against Biden as well, which can't be done.

 

[Morrison]

Is there an international contest to find the most paranoid conspiracy theory I don't know about?

Back in the 80s, I entered one for Omni Magazine. I suggested humans naturally live forever, but governments realized that humans living hundreds of years get disgruntled with their government, so governments invented "medicine" to actually keep lifespan short.

I suspect that will now catch on. I was ahead of my time

 

[UncleMark]

Jesus Christ I thought you'd never get that posted.

 

[IU_Hickory]

This is going to really mess things up for Garland and Jack Smith. Most people are able to understand the difference between Hillary's emails and the Mar A Lago documents cases. This will be much harder to differentiate. Smith had a slam dunk on the Trump documents case... until this. It will be really hard to make that case now without making a case against Biden as well, which can't be done.

The difference is Trump lying about having them, then claiming they got them all when they didn't.

Trump supporters never would agree with the investigation regardless so nothing has really changed

 

[Morrison]

Jesus Christ I thought you'd never get that posted.

Phone issues. It’s raining out here, which is the equivalent of the Buffalo blizzard to Californian’s and the infrastructure.😂

 

[UncleMark]

The difference is Trump lying about having them, then claiming they got them all when they didn't.

Trump supporters never would agree with the investigation regardless so nothing has really changed

There's a difference in degree, but not in kind.

 

[ulrey]

So what’s the punishment?

Nobody ****s with the Biden’s..

 

[ulrey]

It won’t be any different than Clinton. No big deal.

 

[IU_Hickory]

There's a difference in degree, but not in kind.

Is there a different a hit and stop and a hit and run?

Police think so.

DOJ thinks Trump is still hiding documents

 

[secondasky]

Fvcking idiots. I'm as mad now as I was when the news about Hillary's email setup broke.

However, @Marvin the Martian , as far as being "relieved of command" is concerned, I don't see how that's even possible short of impeachment and removal.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics/joe-biden-classified-documents-upenn/index.html

You should be just as mad for all the illegals coming across the borders and all those rioters who attacked US cities, government buildings and killed more that 35 people in 2021 and were not prosecuted.

 

[outside shooter]

There's a difference in degree, but not in kind.

It's terrible. But... Like what was always said about Watergate, the cover-up can be far worse than the crime. Lying, denying, obstructing, refusing to cooperate... all that factors in.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

This is going to really mess things up for Garland and Jack Smith. Most people are able to understand the difference between Hillary's emails and the Mar A Lago documents cases. This will be much harder to differentiate. Smith had a slam dunk on the Trump documents case... until this. It will be really hard to make that case now without making a case against Biden as well, which can't be done.

If the only thing they go after Trump for is obstruction or lying to investigators, then they can make a case for differentiation.

 

[UncleMark]

If the only thing they go after Trump for is obstruction or lying to investigators, then they can make a case for differentiation.

But process crimes.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

But process crimes.

I'd recommend a 450-page report describing all the relevant items investigated, but explaining that they can't make any charging recommendations on account of the DOJ's memo that says a sitting president can't be prosecuted. That always seems to work out.