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Read this while eating breakfast this morning

True. Some liberals obviously were friends with him but may have had as much to do with lifestyles of the rich and famous as it did with political leanings.

Back then it wasn't abnormal for politicians on different sides of the aisle to be friends outside of work.
They weren’t on different sides of the aisle back then. They were all Democrats. However, Trump was almost certainly no more sincere about that than he is about being a Republican. I think it’s safe to say he was a DINO and now he’s a RINO.
 
They weren’t on different sides of the aisle back then. They were all Democrats. However, Trump was almost certainly no more sincere about that than he is about being a Republican. I think it’s safe to say he was a DINO and now he’s a RINO.
You know that you have lost all respect on both sides, right ? YOu straddle a fence that no one else see's. Yet you still get your crotch cut with your stances. You are the formation of a 5th party that makes no sense at all and has proven to follow nothing tangible.
Were you ever stationed at camp Lejeune?
 
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They weren’t on different sides of the aisle back then. They were all Democrats. However, Trump was almost certainly no more sincere about that than he is about being a Republican. I think it’s safe to say he was a DINO and now he’s a RINO.

I know. That was just even people on difference sides were friends. Like Biden and graham
 
You know that you have lost all respect on both sides, right ? YOu straddle a fence that no one else see's. Yet you still get your crotch cut with your stances. You are the formation of a 5th party that makes no sense at all and has proven to follow nothing tangible.
Were you ever stationed at camp Lejeune?
Nope. Don't know that and I'm sure it's not true. If I don't click with Trumpsters such as yourself, I'm perfectly good with that because you don't click with me either. Trumpsters are illogical and irrational creatures driven entirely by their emotions. That's all strange and weird to me. I don't relate.

Your attempt at a joke about Camp Lejeune is dumb.
 
Nope. Don't know that and I'm sure it's not true. If I don't click with Trumpsters such as yourself, I'm perfectly good with that because you don't click with me either. Trumpsters are illogical and irrational creatures driven entirely by their emotions. That's all strange and weird to me. I don't relate.

Your attempt at a joke about Camp Lejeune is dumb.
ANd you have a problem with Trump is that he is a narcissist. Umkay.

Camp Lejeune wasn't dumb, it's a potential medically probably diagnosis. NAd yes, I am in the medical field.
 
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ANd you have a problem with Trump is that he is a narcissist. Umkay.

Camp Lejeune wasn't dumb, it's a potential medically probably diagnosis. NAd yes, I am in the medical field.
I have many problems with Trump. Main one is that he's unfit to be President.

As far as Camp Lejeune, what service was I in? Why would you think I had ever been stationed at Camp Lejeune, especially between 1953 and 1987? I was commissioned in 1986, but not as a Marine Officer. It was a very dumb attempt at a joke. A good joke has some tie to reality.
 
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Listen friend. You’re like a cop in an outlaw motorcycle gang bar. This is a dream team thread. There’s an exit in back
I can't wait to see the dream team's superhero montage. I found a rough cut of stoll's...

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Any fair minded person knows it’s not about longing for racism. It’s about patriotism, self responsibility, hard work, doing better than your parents, the “American Dream”.

crying "patriotism", while wraped in the flag holding up the Bible, is how the elite like Trump and Pubs and Clintons and Dinos, get the citizenry to vote against their own economic self interests election after election, primary after primary, and proudly go to war to serve the rich and corporations..
 
crying "patriotism", while wraped in the flag holding up the Bible, is how the elite like Trump and Pubs and Clintons and Dinos, get the citizenry to vote against their own economic self interests election after election, primary after primary, and proudly go to war to serve the rich and corporations..
So the Trumpers are pro war????? and Joe Bougthen has delivered a better economy? Is that what you are saying?
 
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My letter to ‘Breaking Bad’ star Bryan Cranston
By: Jason Whitlock
February 28, 2023

Dear Bryan Cranston:

My childhood was great. We lived in the ghetto. Hope and joy filled the tiny apartment I shared with my brother and mother after my parents divorced.

High school was even better. I captained a nationally ranked, undefeated football team. My senior year, I shared a one-bedroom, 400-square-foot apartment with my dad.
I earned a football scholarship to Ball State University. The five years spent on campus comprise many of my fondest memories. I would do those five years over and over again until eternity.

The two decades I spent as a newspaper journalist in Bloomington, Indiana; Rock Hill, South Carolina; Ann Arbor, Michigan; and Kansas City, Missouri, were tremendous. I started at the bottom, working part-time for $5 an hour, and became one of the most successful sports writers of my era.
America was great for me from 1967 until about 2012.

I’m black. Both my parents are black. Their parents were black, too. I’m 55 years old. When I hear former President Donald Trump and his supporters say “make America great again,” I don’t interpret that nostalgia as subtle or overt racism. I hear it as a call for a return to sanity, a return to a time when America at least pretended to judge man by the content of his character.
Bryan, I saw some of your interview with CNN’s Chris Wallace, the exchange where you claimed the slogan “Make America Great Again” is some sort of bigoted dog whistle.
You said, “When I see ‘Make America Great Again,’ my comment is, ‘Do you accept that that could possibly be construed as a racist remark?’”
Chris Wallace should have stopped you right there. Only someone on a 24/7/365 hunt for racism would hear that slogan and think it’s racist in nature. Bill Clinton said the exact same thing in 1991 when he launched his bid to win the White House. Clinton is fondly referred to as the “first black president.”
Clinton was not and is not black. He’s a stereotypical politician, a man unafraid to distort reality for his own benefit. To you, once Trump adopted the slogan, MAGA became a Confederacy code word.

Bryan, you and Bill Clinton are both actors. You feign concern for black people while seducing us with lies. Your statements to Chris Wallace come off as condescending and racist.

You continued: “A lot of people go, ‘How could that be racist, to make America great again?’ I said, ‘So just ask yourself from an African-American experience: When was it ever great in America for the African-American? So if you’re making it great again, it’s not including them.’”

Bryan, as of 2020, roughly one in ten black people living in America migrated from Africa. That’s 10%. In 1980, it was only 3%. So the plight of black people in America is so miserable that real black Africans are choosing to immigrate to this country by choice, not by slave ship.
America is and has been the safest, most prosperous, most opportunity-rich land for black people for the last 60 years. That’s why Africans and other black people from around the globe choose to relocate here. They want what I experienced in the 1970s, '80s, '90s, and 2000s: freedom and opportunity derived from the greatest constitution ever written.

They have no interest in debating whether men have periods or can get pregnant. They want to compete on the most level playing field in the world.

They may not be Christians, but they want what Christianity created.

America stopped being great a decade ago. Social media accelerated American culture’s descent into wokeness and secularism. America turned demonstrably hostile to a biblical worldview and patriarchal leadership. It prioritized victimhood over victory. It stopped pursuing equality of opportunity in favor of equality of outcome.
Equity is the gateway drug to mass corruption. Equity fuels entitlement. It sends people on a search to discover what makes them worthy of special consideration. Equity is at the root of identity politics, gender dysphoria, and racial division. Equity is Utopia’s bible.
Utopia is the left’s favorite nonsensical conspiracy theory. They’re determined to create it around the world.

Bryan, you don’t believe black people can compete in the system George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Ben Franklin designed. You babbled at the beginning of your rant as if America’s Founding Fathers invented slavery. They inherited the planet-long institution and wrote a constitution that made its demise inevitable.
Their foresight and the sacrifice of many others over two centuries made America great. Not perfect. Great.
I lived in that America. I was raised to believe I could accomplish anything I wanted here. My dad didn’t graduate high school. My mom was a factory worker. Union labor and manufacturing jobs made it possible for them to raise two boys who achieved parts of the American dream. My brother joined the Air Force, graduated from college, has been married for over 20 years, and owns a nice home in a nice neighborhood.
Many people want that America back, a country that allows two parents with nothing more than a good work ethic to lift their children to a better life. Life doesn’t get any better than that.
Instead, manufacturing jobs have left this country and America caters to global corporations that favor China and a Marxist worldview. America cares far more about what’s best for elite celebrities than for working-class families.

That frustration is at the root of the MAGA movement. It’s willful ignorance to pretend otherwise.
TDDR ...
 
You know that you have lost all respect on both sides, right ? YOu straddle a fence that no one else see's. Yet you still get your crotch cut with your stances. You are the formation of a 5th party that makes no sense at all and has proven to follow nothing tangible.
Were you ever stationed at camp Lejeune?
What did he say that was incorrect? Trump used to be a Democrat and now a Republican. Like Aloha said he was a DINO and now he's a RINO. I don't understand why Trump supposers can't see that Trump is all about Trump and would switch to being a Democrat in a heartbeat if it benefited him.
 
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What did he say that was incorrect? Trump used to be a Democrat and now a Republican. Like Aloha said he was a DINO and now he's a RINO. I don't understand why Trump supposers can't see that Trump is all about Trump and would switch to being a Democrat in a heartbeat if it benefited him.
I don't and didn't disagree about any of that. Hell, I've voted more dem for pres than I have Pub. Aloha has admitted that he was a staunch dem before he was a staunch pub.
Why is it shocking that Trump can find agreement with either party and then be a dis-qualifier but not it's not for Alhoa? Tit for tat, right?
Todays dem's are not what I personally voted for 30 yrs ago, nor are todays pubs what I voted against 30 yrs ago. BUT I don't hide any of it, Trump doesn't hide any of it, Alhoa does. "his party" shit. he has a party in his mind that doesn't exit. It sounds pike a really nice party, but it just flat doesn't exist and then he want's to blame all failures on Trump. That part is BS.
 
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I don't and didn't disagree about any of that. Hell, I've voted more dem for pres than I have Pub. Aloha has admitted that he was a staunch dem before he was a staunch pub.
Why is it shocking that Trump can find agreement with either party and then be a dis-qualifier but not it's not for Alhoa? Tit for tat, right?
Todays dem's are not what I personally voted for 30 yrs ago, nor are todays pubs what I voted against 30 yrs ago. BUT I don't hide any of it, Trump doesn't hide any of it, Alhoa does. "his party" shit. he has a party in his mind that doesn't exit. It sounds pike a really nice party, but it just flat doesn't exist and then he want's to blame all failures on Trump. That part is BS.

the Dem party i grew up with ceased to exist once the supremes allowed it to be legally purchased by the rich and corporations, who already owned the GOP.

when govt is allowed to be bought, 100% chance it will be.

thus it was bought, and by those with the most access to money to buy it. (not personal. just business).

once bought, we had the socially liberal and socially conservative branches of the Wall St/Billionaire Party, which is where we stand today.

Trump is and always has been only one thing.

pro Trump, and anti anything and anyone that isn't all about and for Trump.
 
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That is a good question but for the most part I think it is looking back to the days when people respected other people's opinions, worked hard, were responsible for themselves, etc. I think pre-social media was a better time myself.


On a side note? For Mcm66 it was when he was married. 🤣 🤣 🤣
You think Trump was looking back to the days when people respected other people's opinions? 🧐
 
the Dem party i grew up with ceased to exist once the supremes allowed it to be legally purchased by the rich and corporations, who already owned the GOP.

when govt is allowed to be bought, 100% chance it will be.

thus it was bought, and by those with the most access to money to buy it. (not personal. just business).

once bought, we had the socially liberal and socially conservative branches of the Wall St/Billionaire Party, which is where we stand today.

Trump is and always has been only one thing.

pro Trump, and anti anything and anyone that isn't all about and for Trump.
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and ... OK...

NOW, can you name me one person that was narcissist enough to push for the POTUS that wasn't all about themselves? I will say there hasn't been one in the last 150 yrs+. Why does Trump draw this criticism when EVERY DAMN PRES IN MY LIFE (I'm 54 for now) fit the exact same criteria? OHHH I know, you all don't like that he plays loose enough that he may expose all of the BS that DC thinks we don't know, but as individuals, don't have the power to change.
BUT, if Trump goes DC ROUGE, we could have the power to overthrow all th eBS that we have been paying for for generations and have been cramed down our throats! That is why the swamp hates him, he paid into them for years, and now he has the "goods" to expose every damn one of them for the last 50 yrs.
So save me your indignation. Trump is not more evil than any effing person elected in the last 100+ yrs. DC just doesn't want to loose their paychecks.
 
We agree. There is no one more capable of detecting racism than a white liberal. Bing and I have talked about this over a scotch, or a few, and he essentially says it’s like white liberals think blacks need white saviors. I believe it’s safe to say he’s not a fan of white liberals with finely tuned racism detectors that can detect racism better than black persons. And Bing is a solid Dem.

Sorry Bing if I’m misstating our discussions, but I’m pretty sure you’ve posted something along those lines here in the past.
From my 'white' perspective, liberal whites were fine when they were advocating equal treatment under the law and even implementing some programs to help those in poverty - not just blacks.

But I think if I were black, I would not care for any white person denigrating my black experience and acting like I'm ungrateful for the white savior "If you don't support me, you ain't black".

I respect Bing's-ness, but I bet we share a lot of the same views on this issue.
 
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crying "patriotism", while wraped in the flag holding up the Bible, is how the elite like Trump and Pubs and Clintons and Dinos, get the citizenry to vote against their own economic self interests election after election, primary after primary, and proudly go to war to serve the rich and corporations..
lmao Oh, the irony!
 
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and ... OK...

NOW, can you name me one person that was narcissist enough to push for the POTUS that wasn't all about themselves? I will say there hasn't been one in the last 150 yrs+. Why does Trump draw this criticism when EVERY DAMN PRES IN MY LIFE (I'm 54 for now) fit the exact same criteria? OHHH I know, you all don't like that he plays loose enough that he may expose all of the BS that DC thinks we don't know, but as individuals, don't have the power to change.
BUT, if Trump goes DC ROUGE, we could have the power to overthrow all th eBS that we have been paying for for generations and have been cramed down our throats! That is why the swamp hates him, he paid into them for years, and now he has the "goods" to expose every damn one of them for the last 50 yrs.
So save me your indignation. Trump is not more evil than any effing person elected in the last 100+ yrs. DC just doesn't want to loose their paychecks.

everyone is self serving to X degree.

Trump is self serving and self absorbed on a whole different universe than most.

that said, "self serving" calls for a definition of the term that everyone will disagree on.

"more self serving" or "less self serving" doesn't require that absolute definition, just an observance of degree.

the single biggest and most universal difference between liberal and conservative voters, is conservatives are far more self serving and self absorbed than liberals.

the difference is essentially what defines "conservative" from "liberal".

nothing in the Constitution against being more self serving and self absorbed, but one would need to be totally blind not to see the difference in level of degree between conservative and liberal voters. (which isn't always one in the same as Pub and Dem voters).
 
I don't and didn't disagree about any of that. Hell, I've voted more dem for pres than I have Pub. Aloha has admitted that he was a staunch dem before he was a staunch pub.
Why is it shocking that Trump can find agreement with either party and then be a dis-qualifier but not it's not for Alhoa? Tit for tat, right?
Todays dem's are not what I personally voted for 30 yrs ago, nor are todays pubs what I voted against 30 yrs ago. BUT I don't hide any of it, Trump doesn't hide any of it, Alhoa does. "his party" shit. he has a party in his mind that doesn't exit. It sounds pike a really nice party, but it just flat doesn't exist and then he want's to blame all failures on Trump. That part is BS.
Nonsense. I don't hide anything at all.
 
Oh Whitlock, you took the “letter to the editor” thing a bit too far.

So as to care about the substance of anything Whitlock writes, I say only this. He sits here and berates a man for having an opinion that differs from him.

Whitlock taking something as a personal affront which grants him license to tear into left wing celebrities who have no idea who he is and who weren’t talking to him, is his bread and butter. He’s adopted the grievance griping bullshit about as well as anybody outside of Clay Travis.
Oh don’t forget our very own Dan Dakich. He’s good at it too.
 
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My letter to ‘Breaking Bad’ star Bryan Cranston
By: Jason Whitlock
February 28, 2023

Dear Bryan Cranston:

My childhood was great. We lived in the ghetto. Hope and joy filled the tiny apartment I shared with my brother and mother after my parents divorced.

High school was even better. I captained a nationally ranked, undefeated football team. My senior year, I shared a one-bedroom, 400-square-foot apartment with my dad.
I earned a football scholarship to Ball State University. The five years spent on campus comprise many of my fondest memories. I would do those five years over and over again until eternity.

The two decades I spent as a newspaper journalist in Bloomington, Indiana; Rock Hill, South Carolina; Ann Arbor, Michigan; and Kansas City, Missouri, were tremendous. I started at the bottom, working part-time for $5 an hour, and became one of the most successful sports writers of my era.
America was great for me from 1967 until about 2012.

I’m black. Both my parents are black. Their parents were black, too. I’m 55 years old. When I hear former President Donald Trump and his supporters say “make America great again,” I don’t interpret that nostalgia as subtle or overt racism. I hear it as a call for a return to sanity, a return to a time when America at least pretended to judge man by the content of his character.
Bryan, I saw some of your interview with CNN’s Chris Wallace, the exchange where you claimed the slogan “Make America Great Again” is some sort of bigoted dog whistle.
You said, “When I see ‘Make America Great Again,’ my comment is, ‘Do you accept that that could possibly be construed as a racist remark?’”
Chris Wallace should have stopped you right there. Only someone on a 24/7/365 hunt for racism would hear that slogan and think it’s racist in nature. Bill Clinton said the exact same thing in 1991 when he launched his bid to win the White House. Clinton is fondly referred to as the “first black president.”
Clinton was not and is not black. He’s a stereotypical politician, a man unafraid to distort reality for his own benefit. To you, once Trump adopted the slogan, MAGA became a Confederacy code word.

Bryan, you and Bill Clinton are both actors. You feign concern for black people while seducing us with lies. Your statements to Chris Wallace come off as condescending and racist.

You continued: “A lot of people go, ‘How could that be racist, to make America great again?’ I said, ‘So just ask yourself from an African-American experience: When was it ever great in America for the African-American? So if you’re making it great again, it’s not including them.’”

Bryan, as of 2020, roughly one in ten black people living in America migrated from Africa. That’s 10%. In 1980, it was only 3%. So the plight of black people in America is so miserable that real black Africans are choosing to immigrate to this country by choice, not by slave ship.
America is and has been the safest, most prosperous, most opportunity-rich land for black people for the last 60 years. That’s why Africans and other black people from around the globe choose to relocate here. They want what I experienced in the 1970s, '80s, '90s, and 2000s: freedom and opportunity derived from the greatest constitution ever written.

They have no interest in debating whether men have periods or can get pregnant. They want to compete on the most level playing field in the world.

They may not be Christians, but they want what Christianity created.

America stopped being great a decade ago. Social media accelerated American culture’s descent into wokeness and secularism. America turned demonstrably hostile to a biblical worldview and patriarchal leadership. It prioritized victimhood over victory. It stopped pursuing equality of opportunity in favor of equality of outcome.
Equity is the gateway drug to mass corruption. Equity fuels entitlement. It sends people on a search to discover what makes them worthy of special consideration. Equity is at the root of identity politics, gender dysphoria, and racial division. Equity is Utopia’s bible.
Utopia is the left’s favorite nonsensical conspiracy theory. They’re determined to create it around the world.

Bryan, you don’t believe black people can compete in the system George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Ben Franklin designed. You babbled at the beginning of your rant as if America’s Founding Fathers invented slavery. They inherited the planet-long institution and wrote a constitution that made its demise inevitable.
Their foresight and the sacrifice of many others over two centuries made America great. Not perfect. Great.
I lived in that America. I was raised to believe I could accomplish anything I wanted here. My dad didn’t graduate high school. My mom was a factory worker. Union labor and manufacturing jobs made it possible for them to raise two boys who achieved parts of the American dream. My brother joined the Air Force, graduated from college, has been married for over 20 years, and owns a nice home in a nice neighborhood.
Many people want that America back, a country that allows two parents with nothing more than a good work ethic to lift their children to a better life. Life doesn’t get any better than that.
Instead, manufacturing jobs have left this country and America caters to global corporations that favor China and a Marxist worldview. America cares far more about what’s best for elite celebrities than for working-class families.

That frustration is at the root of the MAGA movement. It’s willful ignorance to pretend otherwise.
I love Jason Whitlock. I just joined his podcast on youtube about 3 weeks ago or so.
 
Maybe because people judge intent based on other comments that person has made.

Someone with a history of making racist comments is not going to get much benefit of the doubt on other comments and what they meant. Plus, when trump has a lot of white supremacists cheering him on while waving confederate flags, it kind of solidifies the idea of what Trump really meant by MAGA.

Are you talking about Trump or Biden when discussing a history of making racist remarks?
 
What do you disagree with in that? He was claiming to be a Democrat and now he claims to be a Republican. Was he lying about being a Democrat or is he lying about being a Republican. My money, supported by the evidence, is that he's a liar. ;)
Trump became a Republican the night Obama ridiculed him at the White House Correspondents Dinner.
 
Trump became a Republican the night Obama ridiculed him at the White House Correspondents Dinner.
Definitely a failure on Obama's part to not understand Trump wouldn't handle being roasted very well. I guess at least he didn't go up and slap Obama.
 
Definitely a failure on Obama's part to not understand Trump wouldn't handle being roasted very well. I guess at least he didn't go up and slap Obama.

Why would Obama care? Trump had spent the last several years claiming he was born outside the US and was an illegitimate President. He deserved to be roasted on a spit.

What no one could have imagined in their wildest dreams was that the country would go insane and elect that lunatic.
 
Why would Obama care? Trump had spent the last several years claiming he was born outside the US and was an illegitimate President. He deserved to be roasted on a spit.

What no one could have imagined in their wildest dreams was that the country would go insane and elect that lunatic.
Trump definitely deserved to be roasted but I would say it backfired
 
Because he was a carnival show. Still is. It’s one thing as a random crazy guy in NYC. It’s another to pretend to be capable of running a country.
My response had nothing to do with his ability to be president. It had to do with, he only become a racist with race pimps and Dems when he ran as a Republican.
 
Why would Obama care? Trump had spent the last several years claiming he was born outside the US and was an illegitimate President. He deserved to be roasted on a spit.

What no one could have imagined in their wildest dreams was that the country would go insane and elect that lunatic.
Omg the lunatic Obama pushed us towards Trump. You dumbasses swallowed Obama hook line and sinker. Well, Michael did too but, anyways he divided all of us. Black people hate that asshole.
 
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