It appears that your skin's gotten quite thin in your old age, Ord.
Penix done for the season
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My problem is that one doesn't have to work harder than the other. We very well may be in better position with Ramsey as we were with Penix. So to hint at the idea that one has to work harder to equal the other, is a backhanded compliment. I don't think Penix is better than Ramsey, I think they are equal. I don't think Penix or Ramsey has to work harder to be the equal, they simply are equal. Long term I think Penix had a shot of improving and becoming the better player but he would've had to of stayed healthy.
The debate was over a month ago. Penix is great for our depth. As long as Ramsey stays healthy, than IU will not miss a beat no matter who is playing.
My eyes tell me M. Penix is an outstanding QB and IU is fortunate to have him; can't wait to see him on the field again next year. My heart tells me P. Ramsey is an outstanding QB and IU is fortunate to have him; can't wait to see him take the field against PSU. My mind, body, and soul is telling me this is one hell of a good year for IU football and I can't wait to see how it all unfolds. Looking forward to IU playing a bowl game here in sunny FL. Go HOOSIERS !!!
I have no intention of entering a debate about MP vs. PR but it does bother me when posters insert subjective stats or circumstances as though they were objective measurements. It's a disingenuous way to attempt to assert one's opinion as fact. The circumstances of Ramsey's entering and subsequent play against Northwestern were much different than Penix's situation in the same game. Comparing points or sacks of the two is a stretch.
And since we are submitting opinion and hypotheticals on the Maryland game, I'm going to have to strongly disagree with your take on the Hendershot pass. From my view, that was 100% on MP. That pass was both high and behind the receiver and entirely without proper touch. The only fault with Hendershot was trying to catch it which helped the defender when the ball popped up. Obviously PH was instinctively going to try to catch the ball. Regardless of how much one might "like Mike" that was a terrible pass and resulted in a big swing that kept the game competitive. A better pass there and we probably rout Md, much like Northwestern. But that happens to all QBs - I've seen similar mistakes from Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.
You haven’t proven one thing, not one, except that you obviously know little about football.
This was debated in another thread. One of the few that you apparently missed trashing.
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The "Ordy-Rage" is ramping up due to the IU wins and national acclaim.
He will implode soon and it will be fun to watch.
If Ramsey’s career ended now, he’d own the big ten record for career pass completion percentage by 2%.
Not sure why we can’t LEO and back the team? ( couldn’t resist ). Isn’t it great to have Peyton since Mike got hurt? Hell it’s great to have Peyton if Mike wasn’t hurt. It’s also great to have Jack too. Our current backup is a 4 star freshman. Let’s play ball. We got three games. Don’t need to waste time bitching about who we lost or how we might have done. Would have could have should have is a looser mentality. Go Hoosiers!
You forgot DeBoer and Hendershot, as long as you're spreading around the kudos for QB play . . . .
The biggest problem with Ramsey starting is that Penix isn't available to spell Ramsey if he gets tired, flustered or hurt the way Ramsey has been there to back up Penix. That might make DeBoer limit the playbook against teams like PSU, Michigan and that team up north that hates IU; Ramsey might not be able to run as much, or the downfield pass calls might be fewer, than opportunities might dictate.
Otherwise, I feel pretty confident that Ramsey will be OK out there, even against those teams.
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