The 0-11 team (Mal’s first season as coach) was in 1984, not 1983. They improved throughout the season, that’s for sure.The 1983 team that went winless would run this current IU team off the field.
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The 0-11 team (Mal’s first season as coach) was in 1984, not 1983. They improved throughout the season, that’s for sure.The 1983 team that went winless would run this current IU team off the field.
Would you post those rating here, or provide a link to them? Thanks.Check the TV ratings. IU blows them all away.
Yeah Steve Bradley was and All-American wasn't he. What?The 0-11 team (Mal’s first season as coach) was in 1984, not 1983. They improved throughout the season, that’s for sure.
I have a very reliable source.You have no verified source for this, and even if that's true, Allen is more than compensated well enough that he could've eaten the contract himself.
I know this for a fact.Do you know this for a fact or are you playing the same games as the PU troll?
Harbaugh did. But got a big raise after that.I have a very reliable source.
Allen took a pay cut to send Sheridan packing. How many Big 10/SEC coaches pay for buyouts when they want an assistant gone? Indiana nickels and dimes their football program and they always have. That's why the program is what it is.
Your source could be Tom Allen's wife for all I know, but at the end of the day, on my end you're still just some guy on a message board. Regardless of how Hilller's buyout would've been dealt with, he needed to be fired. Even working under the premise that Dolson refused to fund it, as much as I think he should've been able to find the donors, he didn't and Allen chose to let his O-line derail the entire offense for an extra season by bringing back a coach who was clearly failing at his job.I have a very reliable source.
Allen took a pay cut to send Sheridan packing. How many Big 10/SEC coaches pay for buyouts when they want an assistant gone? Indiana nickels and dimes their football program and they always have. That's why the program is what it is.
Then what changed between last January and early October?I know this for a fact.
Being in the red by $24million after a covid year had nothing to do with that, I'm certainI have a very reliable source.
Allen took a pay cut to send Sheridan packing. How many Big 10/SEC coaches pay for buyouts when they want an assistant gone? Indiana nickels and dimes their football program and they always have. That's why the program is what it is.
Yes, thanks for the correction.The 0-11 team (Mal’s first season as coach) was in 1984, not 1983. They improved throughout the season, that’s for sure.
You get what you pay for.Buyout of no buyout I can't see a way for him to stay. How is he possible going to recruit anybody. He has to fire multiple coaches and who knows what the contracts are on those. It's only a $5 million delta on the buyout if the hire a $5 million replacement. The school would be better off hiring a $1 million MAC level coach and coaching staff. They would do much better than Allen can do going forward. If he does well, you walk his salary up as Allen's burns off. This idea that you have to pay $5 million for a coach is nonsense. There are MAC coaches better allen, MAC coordinators like Vince Koehres who are former head coaches and ready for jobs. There are D2, and D3 coaches that are better than Allen. There are high school coaches better than Allen who'd work for 100K. There are a lot of creative things you could do to make a change.
I added an actual thought, which is that you were disingenuous when you claimed apathy.Way to repeat yourself instead of adding any actual thoughts, we've got an absolute genius right here.
Ok, you won't be afraid to post how you know this then. Otherwise you simply risk joining Ordy/Jackskip on the all-eyeroll team.I know this for a fact.
I don't doubt for a second it's true. After last year, who would have kept Hiller on?Ok, you won't be afraid to post how you know this then. Otherwise you simply risk joining Ordy/Jackskip on the all-eyeroll team.
From a ticket revenue standpoint I am aware there are other major players, but Indiana still drives the TV contract nationally and that is only going to become more lopsided as we ascend once again. What is not shown in your link is the rather impressive donation levels required to hold IU seats.Topped by Ohio State, Big Ten sports approaches $2 billion a year in spending
The Big Ten is now a nearly $2 billion business, fueled largely by TV revenue from league and national network contracts.www.cleveland.com
I don't doubt for a second it's true. After last year, who would have kept Hiller on?
24 karat IronyWould you post those rating here, or provide a link to them? Thanks.
If you have relevant or thoughtful comments, you should make them. Otherwise, you’re simply Not credible here.24 karat Irony
Exactly correct.I find it hard to believe the athletic dept wouldn’t pony up to buy out Hiller but find the money to pay Carey to be an analyst.
You come back from time out and immediately start stalking me. Then sob to the "mod" when I respond.If you have relevant or thoughtful comments, you should make them. Otherwise, you’re simply Not credible here.
Which is why I question the claim to begin with.I find it hard to believe the athletic dept wouldn’t pony up to buy out Hiller but find the money to pay Carey to be an analyst.
“Contributions” are listed for each school.From a ticket revenue standpoint I am aware there are other major players, but Indiana still drives the TV contract nationally and that is only going to become more lopsided as we ascend once again. What is not shown in your link is the rather impressive donation levels required to hold IU seats.
I’ve done nothing of the sort, as any review of my posts confirms. Please stop with this nonsense.You come back from time out and immediately start stalking me. Then sob to the "mod" when I respond.
Put me on ignore as you have sworn to do Ordy/Kern. Trollboi
Illinois, Cincy, white lot, green paint, Hiller, 'IU Sucks", ratings
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I’ve also asked for this and have never seen anything of substance to support the assertion.“Contributions” are listed for each school.
Higher donation levels would mean *fewer* donors for a given total amount (if, in fact, what you mentioned falls under the category).
Do you have a source demonstrating IU “drives the TV contract”? It *seems* reasonable, but I suspect we all esteem the program unreasonably highly after the past quarter century.
lolI’ve done nothing of the sort, as any review of my posts confirms. Please stop with this nonsense.
VC donation totals is what I was referring to. IU works on a points system driving primarily by non-cummulative points based on yearly donations.“Contributions” are listed for each school.
Higher donation levels would mean *fewer* donors for a given total amount (if, in fact, what you mentioned falls under the category).
Do you have a source demonstrating IU “drives the TV contract”? It *seems* reasonable, but I suspect we all esteem the program unreasonably highly after the past quarter century.
Yes, I understand that. But what’s important is the total amount of “contributions,” not some intra-university point system for seating.VC donation totals is what I was referring to. IU works on a points system driving primarily by non-cummulative points based on yearly donations.
Good seats (main level) are $6 -$10K plus tickets, Court level is more, floor chairs are $25K per plus tickets. IU is in a zip code of it's own.Yes, I understand that. But what’s important is the total amount of “contributions,” not some intra-university point system for seating.
I mean, if one school only requires $1,000 but has 1,000 people giving that amount, while another can brag of demanding $10,000 and only has two willing to give that, the first school is obviously better off.
So what’s the big deal? IU is obviously one of the conference’s poor men.
Again, so what?Good seats (main level) are $6 -$10K plus tickets, Court level is more, floor chairs are $25K per plus tickets. IU is in a zip code of it's own.
You saw the numbers in that article, yes?Math
No, thanks. It’s kinda fun getting to know stuff beforehand…even if it’s mostly bad news these days.Ok, you won't be afraid to post how you know this then. Otherwise you simply risk joining Ordy/Jackskip on the all-eyeroll team.
Scott has shown us he is iffy on football as getting rid of Sheridan and Hiller didn't cost him anything, so coach Allen had to eat money to make it happen and hold on to Hiller for too long. Scott hasn't shown he is big on IUFB except by talk, that could change here in the future but right now there isn't evidence that he cares that much.Mostly agree here. Although KW’a offense was heading downhill fast with his inability to manage the QB and OL rooms.
Completely share the disappointment in our defensive performances under TA
New coach has a good opportunity as you say as the laughable divisions change. Our facilities are in pretty good shape (upper half of the BIG) and the operational framework for NIL is in place as we were way ahead of the game in BB.
Glass had a reputation for not being supportive enough of FB but no one can objectively say that about Scott at this point.
The new coach will need to have the ability and desire to truly turn a program around while BB is King. Would like to see an intact staff come in. We have the $$.
From a ticket revenue standpoint I am aware there are other major players, but Indiana still drives the TV contract nationally and that is only going to become more lopsided as we ascend once again. What is not shown in your link is the rather impressive donation levels required to hold IU seats.
So when you said "general sense of apathy" you meant specifically apathetic to the results of future games this season. Sure. OK. You might want to look up the definition of general. And maybe apathy. If you spent a little time thinking about what you wrote, you'd realize apathy is the wrong word to use there. Instead, you reflexively double down, claim to have meant the word in a way that has no contextual relevance, and issue swearing insults that do more to highlight your insecurities than to highlight my alleged stupidity.You're so stupid you don't even understand what I meant by apathy. Anyone on this board is OBVIOUSLY not apathetic about the Indiana football program entirely dipshit, they are on an Indiana Football forum in their free time for a reason. Whether they're an Indiana fan or a Purdue troll, clearly, they have a vested interest in IUFB one way or the other.
People are apathetic to the results of individual games this season because they have no faith in the 2022 Indiana Football Team or the HC. You bitching out people who have lost faith in Allen is a waste of words. You want to whine about IU fans, go to the Purdue Forum.
"Presenting evidence to back up my claim" That line just cracks me up because it shows how low your IQ is. Simply counting someone's words on an individual post doesn't prove your point like you think it does, but that's too complicated for your underdeveloped brain to comprehend.
Who says we ascend?From a ticket revenue standpoint I am aware there are other major players, but Indiana still drives the TV contract nationally and that is only going to become more lopsided as we ascend once again. What is not shown in your link is the rather impressive donation levels required to hold IU seats.
Since we have to go there because you need things spelled out for you, the definition of apathy is "a lack of interest, enthusiasm or concern". If you take the "general sense of apathy" line and contextualize it properly, you can see that I'm only talking about Allen's job security and the poor on-field results since 2021 and I'm talking about them in the context of addressing your post where you reference fans selling off their tickets and writing off games as L's. These fans have a clear lack of enthusiasm or interest(definition of apathy) in this team's last two games, hence they partake in the aforementioned activities above. The use of the word "general" , stems from the fact that there are many IUFB fans that feel this way. You misinterpreted the entire statement because you're a dolt, just accept it.So when you said "general sense of apathy" you meant specifically apathetic to the results of future games this season. Sure. OK. You might want to look up the definition of general. And maybe apathy. If you spent a little time thinking about what you wrote, you'd realize apathy is the wrong word to use there. Instead, you reflexively double down, claim to have meant the word in a way that has no contextual relevance, and issue swearing insults that do more to highlight your insecurities than to highlight my alleged stupidity.
How apathetic. DWS.
Your insults are meaningless to me. I'm well aware of where my degrees are from and what they say. Feel free to ignore me. You deserve to be surrounded by posters who are apathetic enough to write 1000+ words a day on how bad IU IS....like you.