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Would you take up arms to oppose an illegitimate Trump third term?

Would you take up arms to oppose an illegitimate Trump third term?


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However, I’d gladly welcome an Article 5 convention. If one is convened, anything can be put on the table. And we might actually get something positive out of it.

No thanks.

Who does Indiana send? Holcomb and Young? Or Rokita and Beckwith? Do you really want to take that chance?
 
I’m feeling a panic attack brewing. Please stop.

The direction of this country right now makes me feel the same. I vote every 4 years and I accept the results. Sometimes your guy wins sometimes they lose. But something just feels different right now and it’s a very uncomfortable feeling.

Wife (a Kanuckistani) is starting to freak out. Seriously starting to talk about running home.
 
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Had Hitler moved east and toppled the soviets, and the U.S. never had to spend all the blood and treasure on restoring Europe or fighting the Cold War.

Perhaps things are better today.

Hitler’s Germany was pretty evil in my view. So was the USSR.

Maybe we bet on the wrong horse.
What horse are you betting on today? You can't have it both ways.
 
I have gotten multiple emails from European and Asian scientists that I have worked with in the past, asking if I am ready or willing to relocate.

Find a good property manager and have them rent out your home for enough to pay the mortgage and maintain it. Then take a visiting professor position in Vancouver or London or wherever until the madman is gone.
 
No thanks.

Who does Indiana send? Holcomb and Young? Or Rokita and Beckwith? Do you really want to take that chance?
I think a convention would be a very healthy - perhaps even cathartic - exercise.

What kinds of bad things would you fear might get 38 ratifying states?
 
A convention full of Rokitas is frightening to contemplate.
OK, but that doesn’t answer my question. It’s kind of a dodge, really.

What sort of bad amendments do you fear would make their way to ratification? Because they only matter if they do. And that takes 38 state legislatures.

I think the nation could really use something like this.
 
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Had Hitler moved east and toppled the soviets, and the U.S. never had to spend all the blood and treasure on restoring Europe or fighting the Cold War.

Perhaps things are better today.

Hitler’s Germany was pretty evil in my view. So was the USSR.

Maybe we bet on the wrong horse.
The other horse declared war on the US, remember?
 
I love how he doesn’t name names. Very important people 🤣🤣
I take back any accusations I made of Trump suffering from dementia. He's a lunatic for sure, but he's a clever one. Those are not the words of a man suffering mental decline; they are the words of a mentally sharp entirely insane person.
 
The most important people really.
I take back any accusations I made of Trump suffering from dementia. He's a lunatic for sure, but he's a clever one. Those are not the words of a man suffering mental decline; they are the words of a mentally sharp entirely insane person.
He’s curated this personality that he doesn’t deviate from. I know New Yorkers. He’s a New Yorker but it’s not that. It’s just bizarre. How do you pin down, argue with, someone that speaks with certainty about things that are always unverifiable 🤣. It is insane. People tell me.
 
I know this is a bizarre hypothetical, but I just talked to a very intelligent, very progressive friend now in Seattle. She insists that Trump will seriously try to stay in office after his second term and that he is already laying the groundwork for it (without a Constitutional amendment). I pushed back, but eventually said I would take up arms to prevent that, if need be. As I reflect on it, though, I'm not sure I would--maybe I would leave the country?

I don't know, but thought I'd ask the group. I'm particularly interested in seeing what our MAGA supporters' responses are. By illegitimate, I mean the Constitution doesn't change and the SCt doesn't rule that a third term is legally possible.

Brad always breaks the news first
 
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I’m not interested in getting killed - especially over Donald Trump. So, no, I wouldn’t take up arms. But I would leave the country.

Would you really crazed? I’m in the camp of, he should never run for a third term (even if leftist poster child FDR violated this). But, I’ve got kids, a household to think about. I’m not going to join a militia at the moment because this isn’t the 18th or 19th century.

I may be frustrated, but the country is too large for me to feel like I can make an impact. I would feel differently if it was an invasion (think Red Dawn).
 
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Would you really crazed? I’m in the camp of, he should never run for a third term (even if leftist poster child FDR violated this). But, I’ve got kids, a household to think about. I’m not going to join a militia at the moment because this isn’t the 18th or 19th century.

I may be frustrated, but the country is too large for me to feel like I can make an impact. I would feel differently if it was an invasion (think Red Dawn).
The left is full of contradictions. FDR broke a precedent set by George Washington. Never let a good crisis go to waste. Amirite?
 
Would you really crazed? I’m in the camp of, he should never run for a third term (even if leftist poster child FDR violated this). But, I’ve got kids, a household to think about. I’m not going to join a militia at the moment because this isn’t the 18th or 19th century.

I may be frustrated, but the country is too large for me to feel like I can make an impact. I would feel differently if it was an invasion (think Red Dawn).
I’m not saying that because I think it would make an impact. I’m saying it because I don’t think I want to hang around to see how it would end.

That would be a fundamental breakdown in norms and would only be the beginning.
 
Trump doesn't have Brownshirts, and it would take something like that to pull it off. Also, the DOJ, DOD, FBI, and the courts would have to allow it to happen. It seems inconceivable, but I'm no longer surprised by anything he might try. He tried to overturn an election with a mob once, so...

The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and the pardoned J6ers could become the private force that he would need, and the sycophants he's installed in the aforementioned agencies might just hesitate long enough to allow him to seize power.
Many from the Gravy Seals were lost to fake covid and others are simply too fat to move.
 
I’m not saying that because I think it would make an impact. I’m saying it because I don’t think I want to hang around to see how it would end.

That would be a fundamental breakdown in norms and would only be the beginning.
If the US breaks down there will be nowhere to go.

Maybe Iceland or a Nordic country.
 
Would you really crazed? I’m in the camp of, he should never run for a third term (even if leftist poster child FDR violated this). But, I’ve got kids, a household to think about. I’m not going to join a militia at the moment because this isn’t the 18th or 19th century.

I may be frustrated, but the country is too large for me to feel like I can make an impact. I would feel differently if it was an invasion (think Red Dawn).
I discovered early on that in good companies bad bosses don’t last. Best to just ride it out if that’s otherwise in my best interest.
 
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I discovered early on that in good companies bad bosses don’t last. Best to just ride it out if that’s otherwise in my best interest.
You say that as if everything would be fine, but for Trump. Once he’s gone, things will revert to normalcy.

I don’t agree with that. I think we got Trump because things aren’t fine. And he was selling a different unicorn…capitalizing on people realizing this.

We need to fix the underlying problem.
 
You say that as if everything would be fine, but for Trump. Once he’s gone, things will revert to normalcy.

I don’t agree with that. I think we got Trump because things aren’t fine. And he was selling a different unicorn…capitalizing on people realizing this.

We need to fix the underlying problem.
Good point on fixing the inderlying problem. That’s a discussion topic of its own. I was actually viewing it from the point of Trump being a demagogue par excellence and as such irreplaceable. Different normalcy and you’re right, that normalcy doesn’t fix any underlying problem.

Interestingly, DOGE may be the most redeeming aspect of this Administration and it’s what’s driving the Democrats batshit crazy. DOGE run properly and without vendetta could solve some underlying problems.
 
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