Woodson's Buyout After Retiring?

[Bucket Getter]

Brian Evans was on with JMV yesterday and made the point I hadn't seen discussed here. If Woodson is retiring - like the memo from Dolson said - why on earth would he be entitled to the additional $8M? Evans obviously no fan of Woodson, but I think that's a fair question. So is he fired or retired?

Another story that Evans told was about Kirk Haston coming back to Assembly Hall for a game during Woodson's first year. He's only been to a couple games since he graduated and had his son with him. Dane Fife alerted Woodson that a distinguished alum was back for the first time in years and said it'd be nice if Woodson went over and greeted him before the game. He flatly refused. Total DB move.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

Brian Evans was on with JMV yesterday and made the point I hadn't seen discussed here. If Woodson is retiring - like the memo from Dolson said - why on earth would he be entitled to the additional $8M? Evans obviously no fan of Woodson, but I think that's a fair question. So is he fired or retired?

Another story that Evans told was about Kirk Haston coming back to Assembly Hall for a game during Woodson's first year. He's only been to a couple games since he graduated and had his son with him. Dane Fife alerted Woodson that a distinguished alum was back for the first time in years and said it'd be nice if Woodson went over and greeted him before the game. He flatly refused. Total DB move.

Because he was fired, retiring was a way for everyone to save face, if you think he is leaving on his own you live in lucy land

 

[Tammany Hall]

Mike has a contract that specifies what he gets if he is fired — it’s his whole remaining contract ($8.4M) paid $1M/yr.

It’s being called a retirement to allow him to save face, but in reality he was fired.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

Brian Evans was on with JMV yesterday and made the point I hadn't seen discussed here. If Woodson is retiring - like the memo from Dolson said - why on earth would he be entitled to the additional $8M? Evans obviously no fan of Woodson, but I think that's a fair question. So is he fired or retired?

Another story that Evans told was about Kirk Haston coming back to Assembly Hall for a game during Woodson's first year. He's only been to a couple games since he graduated and had his son with him. Dane Fife alerted Woodson that a distinguished alum was back for the first time in years and said it'd be nice if Woodson went over and greeted him before the game. He flatly refused. Total DB move.

damn I hope the Haston story isn't true. Always liked Kirk. Went thru hell when his mom was killed in a tornado during his early yrs at IU. Hard worker, developed his game, never flashy, no showboat bullshit, very lunch-pail type of guy. A lost breed today.

If that story is false, then screw Fife forever. But if it's true, then screw Woody.

 

[Bucket Getter]

damn I hope the Haston story isn't true. Always liked Kirk. Went thru hell when his mom was killed in a tornado during his early yrs at IU. Hard worker, developed his game, never flashy, no showboat bullshit, very lunch-pail type of guy. A lost breed today.

If that story is false, then screw Fife forever. But if it's true, then screw Woody.

Can’t imagine Fife just pulling a story like this out of his rear.

 

[Bucket Getter]

Mike has a contract that specifies what he gets if he is fired — it’s his whole remaining contract ($8.4M) paid $1M/yr.

It’s being called a retirement to allow him to save face, but in reality he was fired.

Then basically, as Evans stated it, the whole thing is a boldfaced lie to protect Woody’s precious feelings.

 

[Bucket Getter]

Because he was fired, retiring was a way for everyone to save face, if you think he is leaving on his own you live in lucy land

I don’t think that for a second. And I don’t believe everyone saves face. Woodson - yes. Buckner - yes. Dolson - not so much.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Woody is being fired make no mistake. Also make no mistake that the mighty Quinn when ensure he gets paid every last dime.

 

[hookyIU1990]

I don’t think that for a second. And I don’t believe everyone saves face. Woodson - yes. Buckner - yes. Dolson - not so much.

How does Dolson come out of this looking bad?

 

[ulrey]

damn I hope the Haston story isn't true. Always liked Kirk. Went thru hell when his mom was killed in a tornado during his early yrs at IU. Hard worker, developed his game, never flashy, no showboat bullshit, very lunch-pail type of guy. A lost breed today.

If that story is false, then screw Fife forever. But if it's true, then screw Woody.

Do you really believe Fife is lying about it?

 

[ams66]

I don’t think that for a second. And I don’t believe everyone saves face. Woodson - yes. Buckner - yes. Dolson - not so much.

Dolson gets to move forward with his important work instead of dealing with the pushback (there would be some) over IU firing one of its own from one of the most visible positions in the university. I don't know if that's face-saving but it's less controversial than a public firing.

 

[bailey777]

Brian Evans was on with JMV yesterday and made the point I hadn't seen discussed here. If Woodson is retiring - like the memo from Dolson said - why on earth would he be entitled to the additional $8M? Evans obviously no fan of Woodson, but I think that's a fair question. So is he fired or retired?

Another story that Evans told was about Kirk Haston coming back to Assembly Hall for a game during Woodson's first year. He's only been to a couple games since he graduated and had his son with him. Dane Fife alerted Woodson that a distinguished alum was back for the first time in years and said it'd be nice if Woodson went over and greeted him before the game. He flatly refused. Total DB move.

Just remember Mike Woodson does not come to you. You have to go to Mile Woodson.

 

[bailey777]

Do you really believe Fife is lying about it?

Why in the world would he make it up? Plenty of info has been around the last few years basically confirming this is how woodson operates. Its par for the course with him. He could not even remember recruits names and blew them off.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

Why in the world would he make it up? Plenty of info has been around the last few years basically confirming this is how woodson operates. Its par for the course with him. He could not even remember recruits names and blew them off.

what are talking about didn't know a recruit's name?

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

Do you really believe Fife is lying about it?

hard to believe anyone would go on the air and make up a story like that. It's a story Haston could easily refute.
I don't know the real truth, but if I was hedging bets, my money is on Fife on this one.

 

[Bucket Getter]

How does Dolson come out of this looking bad?

Maybe not bad, but it’s a helluva lie to tell and sets a dangerous precedent. Now every other coach at IU will try to pull the same crap when they are getting fired.

 

[birdforbogey]

what are talking about didn't know a recruit's name?

Kory bidinga

 

[OpenWheels]

hard to believe anyone would go on the air and make up a story like that. It's a story Haston could easily refute.
I don't know the real truth, but if I was hedging bets, my money is on Fife on this one.

How could Haston refute it? Was he standing there?

 

[Bucket Getter]

How could Hasten refute it? Was he standing there?

Yeah, Haston couldn’t. But I don’t think there’s a world where Fife just makes a story like that up to tell Evans.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

Maybe not bad, but it’s a helluva lie to tell and sets a dangerous precedent. Now every other coach at IU will try to pull the same crap when they are getting fired.

not really, unusual circumstance, he's getting the same money as if he was fired, fired retired resigned what's the difference

 

[mobilehoosier]

Woodson is being a bitch. Got pretty good intel he is all about himself at this point and how much $$ he can take out. Doesn't acknowledge or take accountability for the shit show. Go away now. I can't stand seeing him on sideline because I know they have mailed it in. What a bitch. Usually don't write like this. Go Hoosiers!

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

How could Hasten refute it? Was he standing there?

yeah I misread. Haston might not have even been aware Fife mentioned it to CMW.
but he probably is now.

Honestly Fife should just pocket these stories. Woody is done, we're about to move on .

 

[iubirdman]

Yeah, Haston couldn’t. But I don’t think there’s a world where Fife just makes a story like that up to tell Evans.

Well he could easily verify if Woodson actually came over to introduce/talk to him and the family before the game. That would not verify if he knew and Fife let him know, but it could show if he did or did not reach out at that time

 

[Bucket Getter]

yeah I misread. Haston might not have even been aware Fife mentioned it to CMW.
but he probably is now.

Honestly Fife should just pocket these stories. Woody is done, we're about to move on .

It was a story he told to Evans (on a private phone call) the day after he was fired. Woody was just getting started tearing the heart out of his supposedly beloved university. The same one that has given him a life of fame and fortune. And the same one he’ll take every single dollar he can get from them.

 

[Bucket Getter]

Well he could easily verify if Woodson actually came over to introduce/talk to him and the family before the game. That would not verify if he knew and Fife let him know, but it could show if he did or did not reach out at that time

Right. He didn’t.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

It was a story he told to Evans (on a private phone call) the day after he was fired. Woody was just getting started tearing the heart out of his supposedly beloved university. The same one that has given him a life of fame and fortune. And the same one he’ll take every single dollar he can get from them.

cannot wait for April and beyond when we can turn the page...again.

Watching current IU games, I've gone from mild apathy to genuine "I don't even care now, none of this matters in a few weeks anyways. Why are we even playing out the season? " Lame duck end to another sad chapter.

We'll see what the new coaching search brings us once the lame duck session is over.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

Well he could easily verify if Woodson actually came over to introduce/talk to him and the family before the game. That would not verify if he knew and Fife let him know, but it could show if he did or did not reach out at that time

out of all the bullshit we have watched the last 30 years, Hastongate seems to be getting a lot of attention

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

out of all the bullshit we have watched the last 30 years, Hastongate seems to be getting a lot of attention

"Hastongate"....nice, I like that.

I'd put being one game under .500 in conference since he started to be much more damning.
That and the pile of 20+ pt blowout losses to real programs.

few more weeks, then we reset again.

 

[Bippy]

It was a story he told to Evans (on a private phone call) the day after he was fired. Woody was just getting started tearing the heart out of his supposedly beloved university. The same one that has given him a life of fame and fortune. And the same one he’ll take every single dollar he can get from them.

Your tax $$$ at work folks.

Do a shitty job, waste a bunch of NIL money, take no responsibility, and only give 50% (at best) while on the job, and get more than $ 8million for "retiring".
This is worse than giving kids a trophy for participating. This is rewarding failure.

 

[ams66]

out of all the bullshit we have watched the last 30 years, Hastongate seems to be getting a lot of attention

Right and not like I know anything about it but there are many reasons why the head coach might not have had time for a pre-game chit-chat with someone. Another asssistant could have brought an issue to him that he needed to deal with and then he forgot, or ran out of time. We don't know, Fife doesn't necessarily know.

Once again we are taking hearsay from a story told on a podcast and treating it like sworn testimony.