I saw goody whipping on someone and I just had to look and see who was getting the beat down. I should've known it was you. You can't argue intelligently so you resort to childish name calling, it's pathetic and sad.
Now you're backing off of your claim that Gene Smith told you and your imaginary friend about OSU leaving the Big and forming a power conference with other prominent football schools? Too funny since it was obviously a ridiculous assertion that you could never prove. Stop lying Luke. You're only fooling yourself by bagging about things that never occurred. Pathetic and sad, indeed. And dumb. Almost as dumb as calling anyone ordfan when you make a stupid post.
God you are a piece of work here ya go
Ok now it is an imaginary friend, earlier you claimed I heard it and not my family friend....sooo many lies you can't keep track of which ones you have told
Gee, the first one doesn't show anything, and the second destroys your argument that IU spent as much as Purdue is going to spend. Congratulations for proving you didn't know what you were talking about. Call Gene and see if he can help you out.
No, you said you "had a friend" in the OSU athletic department and that thru him Gene shared juicy, inside info with you. It must stink to not remember all the stuff you made up. It must also stink to say at least three times that you were going to ignore me and not respond but then be so weak that you had to come back and try to defend your bs. I mean, how weak is that? I'll bet your going to for sure ignore me this time and really really mean it, until you can't. And weren't you the guy who lectured me about calling you names even tho I hadn't, and then called me names? Were you crying when you typed that post?
Since you are having a tough time keeping your bs straight let me help you.
Why do you say that the first one doesn't show anythjng? It talks about the increase in the original budget
Is there an English version of what you "wrote"? Like everything you provide, it was literally incomprehensible, though it's probably your only option at this point since you're unable to keep your meandering story straight. Just keep clicking your heels and saying "There's no one like Gene Smith, there's no one like Gene Smith" and it will come back to you.
What, no ignore? And, of course, ordfan. To / two / too funny (I'll let you see if you can pick the correct one). And you're wise to run away.I'll let you return to your public flogging, goodnight ord
USF is not a giant school , so I am not sure why you say that.; Part of the reason why it is somewhat difficult to get into some Florida state schools is there are so many applicants because the cost of attendance is so cheap. Florida has done a great job of using lotto money for education and you can attend ANY state school for an annual tuition of approx. $6000, about 1/2 the cost of IU. Out of state is MUCH higher, so they like to admit a fair amount of out of state students.
If you have a 3.5 or better GPA, you can go tuition free with the Bright Futures program..... Now for some other details, a school like UCF is in its infancy, the southeast side of Orlando is busting loose with the building of UCF Medical City, that when completed, will rival anything in the B1G for a medical complex of several hospitals and specialties. For those wanting to criticize the Florida Public Schools, there are good and there are bad, just like everywhere, but one curious thing, since we were using US News & World Report Rankings for college, let's apply this to the HS as well. Guess what? Florida ranks sixth in HS achievement, virtually doubling every statistical category for Indiana, which came in 19th. See below:Great post, interesting info...welcome to the boardUSF is not a giant school , so I am not sure why you say that.; Part of the reason why it is somewhat difficult to get into some Florida state schools is there are so many applicants because the cost of attendance is so cheap. Florida has done a great job of using lotto money for education and you can attend ANY state school for an annual tuition of approx. $6000, about 1/2 the cost of IU. Out of state is MUCH higher, so they like to admit a fair amount of out of state students.
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/articles/how-states-compare
We can argue admissions standards and education forever, but can't we all agree that the "student-athlete" football player has a very different standard to meet, even at, (heaven forbid we say it) Notre Dame? Athletes get a pass on a lot of things that "Joe Student" doesn't get a pass on. Admissions being the #1. But let's get back to what is really being counted...wins on the football field. In comparison of the IU to UCF or USF job for that matter, Again, I will say the talent pool to draw from is much deeper in Florida and as Maverick and Goose would say, it is "A target rich environment". The weather is better, facilities as good or better than IU, lots of local attractions, far enough away from Mom and Dad, but still close to home for the Florida kids. The beach...make no mistake, that is a draw. UCF kids can go to the beach every weekend and play with the the girls from the latest wave of northern schools on spring break that week. That goes on for at least 5 weeks, because everybody has different spring break schedules. I'm not saying UCF is the greatest, but the computer program at UCF and Full Sail put young minds to work on Madden and Call of Duty upon graduation. Since their headquarter offices are just down the street and almost in sight of the school. A lot of kids might think that getting a starting job of $80,000 and working on the video game they have played for years is pretty cool.To have a myopic view of how wonderful the job at IU is or going to IU is, sitting on your couch in Carmel and thinking the world revolves around you is just wrong. People down south don't respect the Big Ten. For the most part they think they are over-hyped pretenders in sports who usually get to a bowl game or the first round of the NCAA tournament and get blown out. Don't even start with how the people feel about ND. I heard one guy say ND is just another school in a cold climate to kids today. The last time ND won a national title, those seniors on the team are now over 50 years old and the kids coming up today associate other things to the Domers like cheating scandals, rapes in the dorms, managers killed in a tower accidents, fake internet girl friends of Heisman candidates etc. etc. Actually, quite an embarrassment.
I have droned on, but as my last word, I played football at IU during the Corso years, I would have liked nothing more than my boys to play football at IU. They were offered scholarships to play and chose not to go. They thought the school atmosphere around the program sucked. They had offers from USF and UCF too. Didn't go there either, ended up at different PAC-12 schools, AZ and Cal. Can't say they missed anything.
The undergraduate enrollment at USF is over 40,000, making it larger than several Big Ten schools. Giant? That's your word, not mine. But it's extremely large, and I'm not sure how you didn't know that. UCF is well over 50,000, making it one of the largest schools in the country. And programs like Bright Future, while well intentioned, have led to chronic grade inflation in Florida (and in Georgia with the Hope Scholarship) as a means for kids to attend college relatively I expensively, if they're often not prepared to do so.USF is not a giant school , so I am not sure why you say that.; Part of the reason why it is somewhat difficult to get into some Florida state schools is there are so many applicants because the cost of attendance is so cheap. Florida has done a great job of using lotto money for education and you can attend ANY state school for an annual tuition of approx. $6000, about 1/2 the cost of IU. Out of state is MUCH higher, so they like to admit a fair amount of out of state students.
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/articles/how-states-compare
We can argue admissions standards and education forever, but can't we all agree that the "student-athlete" football player has a very different standard to meet, even at, (heaven forbid we say it) Notre Dame? Athletes get a pass on a lot of things that "Joe Student" doesn't get a pass on. Admissions being the #1. But let's get back to what is really being counted...wins on the football field. In comparison of the IU to UCF or USF job for that matter, Again, I will say the talent pool to draw from is much deeper in Florida and as Maverick and Goose would say, it is "A target rich environment". The weather is better, facilities as good or better than IU, lots of local attractions, far enough away from Mom and Dad, but still close to home for the Florida kids. The beach...make no mistake, that is a draw. UCF kids can go to the beach every weekend and play with the the girls from the latest wave of northern schools on spring break that week. That goes on for at least 5 weeks, because everybody has different spring break schedules. I'm not saying UCF is the greatest, but the computer program at UCF and Full Sail put young minds to work on Madden and Call of Duty upon graduation. Since their headquarter offices are just down the street and almost in sight of the school. A lot of kids might think that getting a starting job of $80,000 and working on the video game they have played for years is pretty cool.To have a myopic view of how wonderful the job at IU is or going to IU is, sitting on your couch in Carmel and thinking the world revolves around you is just wrong. People down south don't respect the Big Ten. For the most part they think they are over-hyped pretenders in sports who usually get to a bowl game or the first round of the NCAA tournament and get blown out. Don't even start with how the people feel about ND. I heard one guy say ND is just another school in a cold climate to kids today. The last time ND won a national title, those seniors on the team are now over 50 years old and the kids coming up today associate other things to the Domers like cheating scandals, rapes in the dorms, managers killed in a tower accidents, fake internet girl friends of Heisman candidates etc. etc. Actually, quite an embarrassment.
I have droned on, but as my last word, I played football at IU during the Corso years, I would have liked nothing more than my boys to play football at IU. They were offered scholarships to play and chose not to go. They thought the school atmosphere around the program sucked. They had offers from USF and UCF too. Didn't go there either, ended up at different PAC-12 schools, AZ and Cal. Can't say they missed anything.
I have no interest in doing battle here, though you initiated all of this via your aggressive and inhospitable reply. That said, as a Florida resident, I do have some insight into the State's educational system, and it's not particularly good. Further, schools like UCF and USF have grown dramatically as a result mainly of kids who can't gain admittance to FSU and UF. I have anecdotal experience with this, though I doubt you do.
You claimed I said USF was "giant", which was simply not the urge now claiming that I implied that you didn't know the enrollment, which is false, as well.
Have owned property in Florida for several years and am a resident, even though I split my time with other locales. My kids weren't educated there, so my experience has been anecdotal (as I already said). And I never claimed to be an expert, though I'm a bit intrigued by your penchant of continually embellishing in an effort to make a point. And I haven't deflected a thing, including your whining. As for IU, I already acknowledged that its not a program worthy to compete with UCF in any way. So, no specifics on your "scouting" work? Why am I not surprised?
You proved nothing. You did, however, completely avoid stating any qualifications whatsoever to comment as you have regarding public education in Florida.
No, I don't do that over and over on this board. As for your qualifications, nothing you've posted suggests in the slightest you have any qualifications to speak authoritatively on such a matter. You've offered no context whatsoever in spite of several requests to provide it, and you've reacted with constant insults and invective whenever I've asked you for it. I'll happily talk football with you, and hopefully you'll demonstrate a "sterling" competency there that you clearly lack on this subject.
I'm not him nor do I know who that is. But I always love it when the particularly weak like you jump on the pile. Mike Leach at Eastern Washington, right? I never forget a face.
If we had the talent from previous coaches at IU we might not have a win this year. We might be able to pay a coach more, but WILL we??? We have a history of paying low, and we get what we pay for.
So you're saying we have more talent than before but we are winning less...So you want to keep the coach who does less with more, an interesting perspective
What is interesting is that you took that small bit out of an entire post, and ignored everything else.
