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Why doesn’t this board address the

Right here is what is wrong with this board with the same us and them bullshit. The theft is real.
Why don't you go ahead and list 'the theft' out. I'm guessing most of it has turned out not to be theft or cost-savings.
 
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They've been trying. Lots of threads include updates about all the theft DOGE has uncovered. It's just not going anywhere, because it's always easily debunked and DOGE so far as offered up zero proof to back up any of their claims.
Have all these been debunked?

 
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Right here is what is wrong with this board with the same us and them bullshit. The theft is real.
At this point they've declared so many things that have proven false that their credibility is just about completely gone. If they find anything actually real, few will believe them. Like dbm's Twitter Twit Tweets, I assume everything DOGE reports to be false until proven true.
 
Have all these been debunked?


The only two examples on that list actually uncovered by DOGE were bullshit.

The EPA mismanagement and DOD overspending might turn out to be serious problems, but DOGE didn't uncover them (it's telling that in a top five list, Fox was forced to stretch outside the parameters for two of the entries).

The USAID thing isn't waste or fraud. It's just a disagreement about the value of certain spending. Not that USAID might not have suffered from waste and/or fraud. But those aren't examples of it.
 

The only two examples on that list actually uncovered by DOGE were bullshit.

The EPA mismanagement and DOD overspending might turn out to be serious problems, but DOGE didn't uncover them (it's telling that in a top five list, Fox was forced to stretch outside the parameters for two of the entries).

The USAID thing isn't waste or fraud. It's just a disagreement about the value of certain spending. Not that USAID might not have suffered from waste and/or fraud. But those aren't examples of it.
Does the President, under the enabling legislation, have the authority to decide the value of the spending?

That, at the end of the day, is going to be one of the main questions in the litigation. Everything else will just be a "do over" situation. But maybe Trump will tire of this and move on to something else.
 
Does the President, under the enabling legislation, have the authority to decide the value of the spending?

That, at the end of the day, is going to be one of the main questions in the litigation. Everything else will just be a "do over" situation. But maybe Trump will tire of this and move on to something else.
I have no idea what the president's authority is on this, but I know the spending doesn't magically become "theft" just because he doesn't like it.
 

The only two examples on that list actually uncovered by DOGE were bullshit.

The EPA mismanagement and DOD overspending might turn out to be serious problems, but DOGE didn't uncover them (it's telling that in a top five list, Fox was forced to stretch outside the parameters for two of the entries).

The USAID thing isn't waste or fraud. It's just a disagreement about the value of certain spending. Not that USAID might not have suffered from waste and/or fraud. But those aren't examples of it.
If those are the top five things, I'm perplexed at why Musk thinks or says that DOGE can eliminate up to a trillion $ in waste. Maybe he's adding up the money over all the years he thinks it would last but for this digging.
 
I have no idea what the president's authority is on this, but I know the spending doesn't magically become "theft" just because he doesn't like it.
It will become a value quagmire. Waste is what’s germane. But what’s waste? A $200 $3 hammer. Something that doesn’t provide value in return? Dei training for an African town that’s all black by way of extreme ex. Another redundant plane for defense. It’s congressional legislative issues and accountability
 
It will become a value quagmire. Waste is what’s germane. But what’s waste? A $200 $3 hammer. Something that doesn’t provide value in return? Dei training for an African town that’s all black by way of extreme ex. Another redundant plane for defense. It’s congressional legislative issues and accountability
This thread is about theft. We were being generous to OP by including waste in the discussion.
 
It will become a value quagmire. Waste is what’s germane. But what’s waste? A $200 $3 hammer. Something that doesn’t provide value in return? Dei training for an African town that’s all black by way of extreme ex. It’s congressional legislative issues and accountability
Musk thinks these NGO set ups that receive a lot of the money then use the money to funnel back into the American political system. That would be worth knowing, if true. He also said he thinks there is a lot of fraud going on with people using fake ss#s he thinks can be weeded out.
 
Musk thinks these NGO set ups that receive a lot of the money then use the money to funnel back into the American political system. That would be worth knowing, if true. He also said he thinks there is a lot of fraud going on with people using fake ss#s he thinks can be weeded out.
Listen I’m all for lifting every rock. Let’s go
 
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