Who hates McRobbie!!!!!!!
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They went from awful to OK. They are not even the top in the conference. UNC, Kentucky, and Kansas blow IU out of the water and the sad part is IU is just fine with that. All sports are equal now so basketball can’t get the best because it would make the bowling team feel bad.
Exactly which blueblood facilities have you visited? I have toured those at IU, and there is nothing second rate about them.
Please be more specific than “other projects” before making judgement on use of BT network funding.
All BIG universities use some of the BTN revenue for general use. McRobbie used some for the GIS facilities...a big feather in IUs global academic cap.
Mods need to take some troll trash to the curb.
IU has definitely upgraded their facilities over the years to the point where they could objectively be considered somewhere in the 7th to 10th range in the Big 10. Not bad considering where they started, though they’ll need to stay fully engaged if they wish to remain in the top 10.
Academically, McRobbie gets points for taking a fresh look at the overall academic structure of the University, but various rankings show IU continuing to lag behind most other Big 10 schools in overall academics. Admissions standards still trail most of the other conference schools, a factual matter that McRobbie has struggled to overcome by attracting higher caliber students. That’s not through a lack of effort, as IU aggressively pursues highly credentialed applicants with extremely lucrative financial aid packages. Unfortunately, those students usually have multiple options, and IU gets fewer than they need to bolster the academic reputation of the school compared to most of their conference peers.
As a fundraiser, however, he is prolific. As a supporter of athletics, he is wholly indifferent. And there is an excellent chance he is extended contractually past 2021. Believing otherwise is a recipe for disappointment.
It’s completely factual and is not challenged by any objective or knowledgeable observer. And why are you still following me after you promised to put me on ignore?
Didn't get to ignoring you yet, but I will. It is fun to watch you flop like a carp on a hot deck.
Six better basketball facilities.....lol
Six better FB facilities.....maybe just maybe
Volleyball. #1
Wrestling. #1
Baseball. Top 3
Softball top 3
Swimming and diving top 3 (two major facilities)
Six better track and field...maybe, although like S D who else has two facilities?
IU has equivalent entrance requirements as Purdue and other BIGs below the top three and above the bottom three. Academics are strong and moving up...GIS? Wow. Look it up Ace.
Kelley, Jacobs, Maurer etc all attract kids from all over the globe.
You embarrassed yourself talking out of your ass about attendance Sunday despite not attending any games.. you apparently haven't learned.
Please don't insult those of us who actually graduated, donate and attend games.
Move along Ordy...better yet...get that 79th username ready for when you are next banned.
All facts from me, without exception.
Better or equal hoops: OSU, UNL, NU, Illinois, MSU, PU
Better football: UM, UW, Neb, OSU, PU, PSU, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, MSU
VB: Neb, PSU, OSU
Wrestling: Iowa, PSU, Neb
Baseball: Iowa, Illinois, Neb, OSU, MSU, PU
IU admissions are less strenuous than Purdue and most of the Big 10 except Iowa and Nebraska. Again, no objective or knowledgeable observer would argue this.
Kelley and Jacobs Schools are very good (Jacobs is elite), while Maurer is a graduate program. Overall, the University lags behind most other Big 10 schools. Virtually all independent rankings confirm this.
4000+ empties Sunday against OSU, with very few in either balcony and multiple seats open on both the east and west man in levels. These are facts from those of us who are alums of IU and have attended and followed all the sports programs for decades, who are lifetime IUAA members, and donors. No idea if any of those apply to you. And you’re still not being truthful and still are following me, when you swore you wouldn’t. You haven’t changed from the Peegs years, I see. Amnesty must be nice.
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You are my favorite stalker Ordy, you always have been. You are so full of shit.
Oh, and don't whine about me not putting you on ignore yet, remember it was you that over two years ago after I nailed you in the lie about the Neb game...swore to God that you would never ever respond to another if my posts. And yet you have stalked me and responded to hundreds of them since then.
Btw...were you at the game Sunday? Answer carefully.
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All you need to know under mcrob if not for Nebraska
IU would rank last in academics in the B10., prior
to the last 3 subpar presidents this was not the case.
Nope, didn’t attend Sunday. But facts are still facts, as much as you wish otherwise. 4,000+ no shows is a fact. Look at the myriad of photos from the game. They’re incontrovertible. And still no ignore. Amnesty suits you well.
Most schools reject a large number of students. It seems that the schools already have all the students they need, so how does having successful athletic teams increase a schools enrollment when it already has as many students as it can hold?
Smart man not to lie this time, You didn't attend Sunday or any other game.
I was there and had a good view of both balconies if you need any data. Read my posts in my thread about the subject.
Don't whine about me not having you on ignore just yet. Recall after I busted you on the lie about attending the Neb FB game in Btown you swore you would never ever ever respond to another of my posts. And yet you have stalked me and responded to hundreds since then. No, Ordy...I think I will keep you off ignore until your next banning, You are good entertainment.
Flop flop flop. Like a carp on a hot deck.
The days of acting like the university “academics” somehow must mesh with the sports teams is basically over. Sports teams identify the school in the national spotlight. They are basically their own separate entity. University sports have become their own separate franchise that simply carries the school name. All the red tape that go with making sure kids qualify, schools find their way around all of this by making sure the bare minimum is achieved and athletes remain eligible. The NCAA pays lip service to academics but when push comes to shove, like when a UNC carries out blatant academic fraud, they do jack squat. In the Norman Rockwell era, there was a synergy between the two. Not anymore. I don’t argue that your depiction is how it should be but that is just not the state of affairs anymore.
Very good anaylsis and those schools that have tried to maintain a mesh between academics and athletics are not winning. Even Duke sold their soul to the Devil. Untill one and dones are removed from the game will it somewhat go back to the way it was, we can hope. Then superior coaching will reign supreme again.
"Sports teams identify the school in the national spotlight" yes, in the area of sports they do. Their are many more aspects of each university that are of interest, discussion and influence outside of sports. I love intercollegiate athletics and I want IU to do really well...but I have perspective...it is the toy dept.
The impact of all BIG universities on this world are far greater outside of sports than within. Look around your home, your workplace, your city, your country...the earth and there are few things you see or hear that haven't been affected, shaped or influenced by one or more BIG universities. IU touches and is touched by virtually all corners of the earth and beyond.
Purdue has the distinction that the first man to walk on the moon did his undergrad work in WL (along with other astronauts) They are rightfully very proud of that. But I assure you that the broad and long process of getting Neil Armstrong down that ladder was touched by every BIG university and who won the most games that year had nothing to do with it.
Perspective.
Yea but this is a website for BASKETBALL not Academics. It's embarrassing to lose to Rutgers. Are you a professor or something my God dude.
I don't deny that the NCAA and schools pretending that football and basketball players are students first and athletes second is a big joke. And there is big money in sports. But the goal of a university is ultimately academics and research. The job of the president is to improve on both of those. Sports can help but they're not as large of an influence as you seem to think.
Some kids might attend a school based on their sports teams. But this is usually based on everything else being equal or close enough: education, cost, location, etc. Shorts would be pretty low on the list.
Would someone pay much more to attend an inferior school simply because the sport teams are better? Nope.
Would someone attend a school that doesn't have their intended degree because of the sports team? Nope.
The sports do play a role but the majority of the team they're not the reason why someone attends a particular school. At best they're a tie-breaker.
Yet you're the one that started this thread by posting an article starting how much McRobbie is doing to improve the university academics and facilities and complaining as if that isn't his job. Now you're upset when someone points out that it is. Go figure.
Maybe, maybe not. Public universities crave out-of-state and foreign students due to the higher tuition payments, to the tune of something like 6000 foreign students at IU, close to 8000 at Purdue. I'm not sure that the instate resident is getting in in situations where all else is even.
"Market better" as in act like you give a s*** whether they go to your school or not. I live 50 minutes from B-ton, have 2 IU decrees, and had two kids go to other instate schools in the last 10 years. Relying on "knowing something exists" is not much of a marketing strategy.
A few comments---
---Former President Herbert was not only a disaster for IU basketball, but for the school as a whole.
---It's amazing that the basketball coach's salary is 3x that of the president of the university.....I understand that's not unusual for a pubic U these days, but it still is odd.
---I understand US N & R's ratings are only one measure of a university's standing.....but it is accurate to say that IU's ranking there has been steadily declining under his tenure. I do understand that maybe 5-6 years ago USNWR's ranking criteria was adjusted in ways that favored private schools over public schools and, as a result, the rankings of all Big 10 schools have declined.....However, IU's rankings have declined relative to the other BIG 10 schools, including MSU & Iowa, which have always been ranked close to IU.
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I generally believe the departments that earn the money should have access to it. I would like to see TV money and proceeds from the shared bowl revenue be used to fund athletics. If they have more money than they need, then I have no issues sharing it with the academic programs. New dorms for athletes (and equal number of general population students) should be a priority.
I suppose it doesn't matter where the money comes from as long as we are properly funding academics and athletics. It highlights the need to have the best athletic programs we can in the revenue generating sports. We give away too much with all the empty seats at Memorial Stadium. On the flip side our head coach is the lowest paid in the conference. I wouldn't mind spending for the best coach available next time and let BTN pay for it.
Bro you complain more than my wife. Get a pair
IU Bud---
---I agree that BTN $ ought to go to athletics, not academics. It was generated by the public's interest in athletics, and ought to back used that purpose. I would be interested in knowing how much BTN $ has been used for non-athletic purposes.
---I've always thought it was a bad idea to have special dorms for athletes, both for the athletes and the non-athletes. The athletes should have exposure to the student body as a whole-----they're already spending most of their time with members of their team and other athletes.......I do understand that special dorms for the athletes could be a recruiting tool....I would outlaw it if I were the NCAA.
Higher tuition plus a more well rounded diverse student population. Foreign students add incredible diversity from a cultural enrichment standpoint.
Kelley and Jacobs have always attracted top out of state students as well. Many from the north shore of Chicago, NY, Conn, etc with the means to due so take advantage of the quality programs and outstanding student life in Btown. Entrance requirements have beefed up quite a bit at both IU and PU (they are equally stringent with slightly different emphasis) and that is a positive.
Athletic-only dorms are a disservice to the athlete for obvious reasons. The vast majority of athletes will work in business, industry, arts...whatever, but not sports. They need a well-rounded experience which is why the Excellence Academy has gotten so much attention and recognition. Other universities are looking closely at IU for this. I won't mention who has championed this project as it would make sime here sob.
Players used to show up at parties and gatherings all the time VJIII and Pritchard practically lived in the Delt's house. My son ran into Pritchard at a party and knock him down. He thought he had injured the only post player we had.
With the travel and long hours they spend off campus for basketball, I like having them together and near the stadium. I would include upper class students in the dorms so they can be another resource for tutoring besides what they get from the program. Add conference rooms for study groups and it could be available to even more students.
