Where do you think Dolson is in the hiring process now?
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I suspect the list is short with some inquiries made and hopefully an announcement after a team’s season has ended.
If I were to guess...
Over the last week, I think Dolson has been in contact with a variety of current/former coaches, asking their input on who he should contact. Thus far, I think Dolson's short list includes:
Brad Stevens
Scott Drew
Dusty May
Grant McCasland
Out of respect to the other programs, Dolson will only be in contact with agents, with no one "in waiting."
Can't really have his guy yet if he's only been talking to agents. He needs to sit them down look them in the eye and be confident they have what he's looking for to get Indiana back to elite status in the basketball world.
I’d guess he’s pretty far down the road. Probably doesn’t have his guy yet, but has a very good idea who it is.
hope not. Cast a wide net and talk to all reasonable candidates. Who hires for a position and talks to 1 or 2 candidates? I mean besides IU basketball?
I would imagine also a few coaches through their agents have reached out as well since it is known we are looking for a new coach
I hope no one knows.
In the past searches I have been skeptical that the people searching had any clue where they stood with candidates. Frankly, that we were susceptible to locking in on candidates we thought we had when they never gave coming to IU a second thought.
I hope whatever we are doing, that the searchers (Dolson or whoever) are playing with smoke and mirrors. If those close to the program are convinced that IU would never consider a candidate, just as an example, I hope it’s an effort by Dolson to throw everyone off the trail.
For once I would like to see a hire out of nowhere that is only shocking to us because Dolson kept his cards so close to the vest. What I would hate to see is another hire of someone way down the list because we scrambled into a plan D because we were hoodwinked into thinking one or more of our top choices were locked in.
In the past searches I have been skeptical that the people searching had any clue where they stood with candidates. Frankly, that we were susceptible to locking in on candidates we thought we had when they never gave coming to IU a second thought.
I hope whatever we are doing, that the searchers (Dolson or whoever) are playing with smoke and mirrors. If those close to the program are convinced that IU would never consider a candidate, just as an example, I hope it’s an effort by Dolson to throw everyone off the trail.
For once I would like to see a hire out of nowhere that is only shocking to us because Dolson kept his cards so close to the vest. What I would hate to see is another hire of someone way down the list because we scrambled into a plan D because we were hoodwinked into thinking one or more of our top choices were locked in.
That would depend on how he got to that list. And why those are the names currently on the list.
If all 4 of those fellas are on the list because they're in dialogues, and are actively considering the IU job. Dolson might deserve a statue outside Cook Hall. But if he hasn't talked to any of them, has no idea if they'd be interested, didn't vet out all the various other viable candidates out there, and weeded them out for whatever reasons...then yes, sure, he'd be negligent in his duties, and need to be fired.
As with most things...the realities likely fall in between. And if those are his current list, and that means one of those guys will be our next coach...I'd be excited as hell to know that right now.
Rabjohns said yesterday that we're using the same search firm that we used with the Cig hiring.
Even so, it would be more about the process than the particular names on the list. This isn’t directed at you, but just because all we internet ADs have to go on is shared speculation doesn’t mean IU’s efforts so far match up with that speculation. The only thing we internet ADs know is that we don’t know anything.
The best scenario would be Dolson already knows and is sitting back while watching us squirm. The search firm may be smoke and mirrors. I think Dusty May has too strong of IU ties not to be the one, it just won’t be signed until Michigan is out. If there really is a search firm, it’s just in case Dusty reneges before signing.
I didn't think Dolson used a search firm for football?
Or is that just a way to see what coaches are interested?
Nope, that's exactly what I'm afraid of. The best scenario is Dolson actually talks to anyone who is a solid candidate and then picks the guy who blows him away. What you described is how we got Sampson, Archie and Woodson. What I describe is likely how we got Cig and Knight, (because they'd have never been the candidate you settled on early), which do you think is more likely to give us a great hire?
Yep, and that's exactly how you end up not getting the best candidate; because you didn't take the time to talk to them and focused too early on 1 person. Reminds me of a cartoon I saw once where a General leading an army of soldiers carrying spears and shields, says "Salesman? I'm too busy to see a salesman!". And the next pane is a salesman with a machine gun waiting outside his door.
Its likely this is what happened with Archie. It's hard to believe Glass had a two hour interview with Archie and got blown away by how dynamic he was. More likely that he had questions after talking with his but what reassured by what everyone else was saying and writing.
Yep, Archie was pretty much universally endorsed by everyone (including RMK if I remember correctly!). It would become more apparent if you had someone to compare them to who just blew you away. Again, no one would've hired a 30 something newbie from Army if they set their sights on the flavor of the month.
I think Dusty has been close enough to our program for others to have a good idea how he comes across. I can’t imagine Woodson’s schtick sounding impressive in an interview, nor the moribund Archie Miller of wooden Indian heritage. That said, there are only so many hungary Dan Hurley’s out there. I want someone glib of tongue with an edge in attitude, smart as a whip and not afraid to crack it…a Bob Knight character who checked all the boxes. Woodson checked none.
A boring offense is okay if you win with it. The motion offense of Knight’s was boring, especially early in his career when there was no shot clock. Later, IU fans tired of the motion offense when his winning percentage dipped slightly and wanted to get away from it in favor of a more modern, up-tempo run and gun NBA style offense. How has that one worked out for entertainment value? “Not well” you thought to yourselves.
McCollum's offense is far from boring. They just have a lot of possessions that end near the end of the shot clock. Lots of probe dribbling, side a side movement, cutting, etc...
I never really thought the Virginia/Wisky approach was overly boring...I just don't believe in limiting possessions at a place like IU, where you could have access to all the best and most skilled players.
He did.
Who is the search firm Indiana has hired to assist with head football coach?
Indiana University is working with a national search firm as it looks for a new football coach
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Step by step: How Indiana football zeroed in on Curt Cignetti in coaching search
Indiana hired Curt Cignetti as its new coach after intense five-day search, a look inside the process and how Cignetti became the clear frontrunner
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On a podcast I was listening to, Dolson talked about an internal exercise where the athletic dept stakeholders put together a list of key qualities and mapped it all out. I don't remember which one it was or I'd link it. I'm positive they've already done that or have almost completed it.
Who is Dolson conferring with on who to hire? Or, is it him and only him who will make the decision?
I would hope that Dolson would have had a list of 10 - 15 candidates, starting at the end of last season. Now that Woodson is not coming back, the wheels are in motion full speed.
Who is at the top of his list? Shoot for the best, talk to everyone (agents) that you are interested in to gauge their interest. If you get a definite "NO", then move on to the next coach. We will not know for sure who it will be until late March, early April. Then the new coach and staff have to hit the portal, re-recruit any players they want to stay, and try to get any others (Haralson, Mullins, etc.) to de-commit and commit to IU.
I would hope that Dolson would have had a list of 10 - 15 candidates, starting at the end of last season. Now that Woodson is not coming back, the wheels are in motion full speed.
Who is at the top of his list? Shoot for the best, talk to everyone (agents) that you are interested in to gauge their interest. If you get a definite "NO", then move on to the next coach. We will not know for sure who it will be until late March, early April. Then the new coach and staff have to hit the portal, re-recruit any players they want to stay, and try to get any others (Haralson, Mullins, etc.) to de-commit and commit to IU.
Could be as simple as that’s the type and tempo of offense that works best for the personnel he has.
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