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When Even Hypocrites See The Hypocrisy …

Birther stuff was dispostive for me. Everything else after that further cements it. Including Jan 6.

The policy stuff has never fully given me pause, but I do understand how it could hold more sway on others. But for me, some of the specific moral fiber stuff with Trump disqualifies him.
What do you know about Kamala’s morals? How moral is it to change your policies from policies that could keep you from getting elected to policies that are more acceptable and will help you get elected? Just another politician telling you what you want to hear but not her true beliefs. “I will stop fracking day one”. “Now I am not against fracking”.
 
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Thanks for your completely unbiased view. I will definitely reassess my thinking on how much republicans (and especially Trump) bull shit us. ;)
Stop stealing my gif's, Skippy.
 
The argument in the clip was that Bernie hate billionaires but not Democratic Billionaires. I am just pointing out that exact same sentiment exists in the GOP.
But Republicans aren't hypocrites about trashing billionaires when they are one.
 
The problem here...she IS, at best, being disingenuous... no one knows what Trump will do on abortion.

I suppose we're at a point where both sides have to fight fire with fire. An honest position on all this would require her to explain why Trump's such a danger to those that care about women's rights, and abortions specifically. That he's flipped on it already, that he's shown he doesn't care about the issue, that at best, under his leadership 3/4 of the states in the country will ban it...and at worst, he'll allow a national ban to happen. But that's way too much explaining. And the other side doesn't bother themselves either with truth or facts.

Trump showed in 2016 that you can win Elections based off fear and lots and lots of lying. He's been fact checked, and fact checked, and fact checked...thousands upon thousands of lies. Some egregious, some innoculous. But none of it has led to him being disqualified as a candidate.

I think it’s important that lies are still called out. But the pearl clutching, on both sides, is becoming more than a little annoying. Though I’ll admit it’s a little more annoying coming from Trump supporters. Lying is lying, and it’s sucks there’s a need to keep score on it. But there’s never been a bigger and more willing liar in politics than Trump. It’s to the point where basically nothing he says is fully rooted in truth any more.
Come on - you know what Trump will do with abortion. Nothing. He's already says it's a state issue, as determined by the Supreme Court.

Why is this a discussion here? Does anyone actually listen to what he says?

And Trump won because of lies in 2016? Hell, he won IN SPITE of lies from our own government about him and Russia Russia Russia. Give me a break.
 
Birther stuff was dispostive for me. Everything else after that further cements it. Including Jan 6.

The policy stuff has never fully given me pause, but I do understand how it could hold more sway on others. But for me, some of the specific moral fiber stuff with Trump disqualifies him.
We sure get all moral when it comes to Trump, but not so much about Clinton and JFK and Lyndon Johnson and Biden getting paid by China - oh, I guess those were 'loan' payments.
 
What do you know about Kamala’s morals? How moral is it to change your policies from policies that could keep you from getting elected to policies that are more acceptable and will help you get elected? Just another politician telling you what you want to hear but not her true beliefs. “I will stop fracking day one”. “Now I am not against fracking”.
Well, we know she got her start in politics by dating a married man. I guess that doesn't qualify as immoral to some.
 
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Dems’ lies are indeed equal if not worse.

It's always kind of amazed me (and not just Trump vs any candidate) how people try to say any candidate is better than the other because the number of lies they tell is less. I've never tried to measure the number of lies because all politicians lie like crazy. In Trump's case he tells some obvious whoppers while other politicians tell some that are more believable yet they are still lies.


This is willful ignorance.
Person 1: Says something really stupid to Hickory
Person 2: Says "Nobody can be that stupid"
Hickory: "Oh yes I can"
 
It's always kind of amazed me (and not just Trump vs any candidate) how people try to say any candidate is better than the other because the number of lies they tell is less. I've never tried to measure the number of lies because all politicians lie like crazy. In Trump's case he tells some obvious whoppers while other politicians tell some that are more believable yet they are still lies.



Person 1: Says something really stupid to Hickory
Person 2: Says "Nobody can be that stupid"
Hickory: "Oh yes I can"
Hickory is on the same leash Mark put on Cray. One post over the line and he will go where Mark put Cray.
 
We sure get all moral when it comes to Trump, but not so much about Clinton and JFK and Lyndon Johnson and Biden getting paid by China - oh, I guess those were 'loan' payments.
I'll really blow all you Trump loyalists minds when I agree with you on most of the Harris stuff you post.

"You guys" loyalty to that...man?...is strange...to me, anyways.
 
It's always kind of amazed me (and not just Trump vs any candidate) how people try to say any candidate is better than the other because the number of lies they tell is less. I've never tried to measure the number of lies because all politicians lie like crazy. In Trump's case he tells some obvious whoppers while other politicians tell some that are more believable yet they are still lies.



Person 1: Says something really stupid to Hickory
Person 2: Says "Nobody can be that stupid"
Hickory: "Oh yes I can"

so you're just as much of an ass as stoll...got it.
 
We sure get all moral when it comes to Trump, but not so much about Clinton and JFK and Lyndon Johnson and Biden getting paid by China - oh, I guess those were 'loan' payments.
Yep.
Trump allegedly> other women...
..so he is immoral and unfit..blahblahblah..

Comma-la IS the 'other woman'

'OH, that's different'!

Pitiful...
 
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I'll really blow all you Trump loyalists minds when I agree with you on most of the Harris stuff you post.

"You guys" loyalty to that...man?...is strange...to me, anyways.
Maybe not 'you', but just pointing out that morality runs both ways.

I didn't like it with Clinton, but I was told that was his business. I'm just using the same standard with Trump. I don't like it, either, but there are morals other than those of sex.
 
Hickory is on the same leash Mark put on Cray. One post over the line and he will go where Mark put Cray.
Banning people should be very judiciously cautioned..:

The founder/CEO of Telegram was arrested in Paris.

Too much speech( right at 1 Billion users)
The wrong speech (not approved by fact cheka)
Too Private speech(Telegram has had top level encryption)
Too Free Speech (Telegram refuses foreign government mandates).

Ya see what I'm sayin?
 
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Banning people should be very judiciously cautioned..:

The founder/CEO of Telegram was arrested in Paris.

Too much speech( right at 1 Billion users)
The wrong speech (not approved by fact cheka)
Too Private speech(Telegram has had top level encryption)
Too Free Speech (Telegram refuses foreign government mandates).

Ya see what I'm sayin?
Yep but I am tired of being stalked by Hick
 
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Thanks for your completely unbiased view. I will definitely reassess my thinking on how much republicans (and especially Trump) bull shit us. ;)
Zuckerberg just admitted to censorship during covid because of pressure from the Biden White House. Yep...it's Republicans that lie to you.
 
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Trying to follow your example but have a long ways to go!

Oh, because I dish it back to conservative posters that are assholes to me. You do great ignoring anyone on your side, especially stoll who abuses his mod powers left and right.

Obviously you have no issue being one that tosses out unprovoked insults. Par for the course
 
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Your fella lies about EVERY SINGLE thing he talks about. So I’m sure there are some foundational lies in there too. Though I don’t think Trump has any foundational beliefs.

But your point is taken. It’s why I’ve said from the start it’s a really shitty choice.
Can you tell me a "truth" that has come from Harris or Waltz's mouth?
 
Oh, because I dish it back to conservative posters that are assholes to me. You do great ignoring anyone on your side, especially stoll who abuses his mod powers left and right.

Obviously you have no issue being one that tosses out unprovoked insults. Par for the course
Post content. Back it with sources. You’ll be treated better. Npt is a sweet guy. You’re a skin tag on his nutsack
 
I'll really blow all you Trump loyalists minds when I agree with you on most of the Harris stuff you post.

"You guys" loyalty to that...man?...is strange...to me, anyways.
Any stranger than the loyalty shown by dems? What is the difference, here? Kamala was an afterthought---embarrassed out of the running for POTUS in 2019...Then suddenly on the Biden ticket.....6+ months ago, dems were worried she'd drag the ticket down---And NOW, she IS the ticket.

I've never understood the stance of fun of others, while you basically do the same(thing)..

Weird.
 
Are they saying Trump wants a national ban on abortion? Or are they saying another Trump Presidency will lead to a national ban on abortion? Trump doesn't give 2 shits about it either way, he's flip flopped on it multiple times now. But he's sure set things up, that over the next 4 years it easily could happen with him in the White House.

Beyond that...mostly agree...they're all lying and pandering for favor with voters. Maybe it'll get interesting again in 2028? As I've posted recently...no matter who wins in 24, the losing side hopefully will hit the smelling salts and get behind more reasonable leadership.
Flip flopped, that’s rich. Kamala is the queen of flip flopping. Meh, the queen of saying she is supporting an opposite position to what she had in the past. Her words are complete bs.

It’s not going to matter. The US (and the world) is in for a world of hurt over the next 5-10 years. I hope everyone is prepared.
 
Does the truth bother you? The Dems aren’t a damn bit better than Trump.
Another indictment today, Twice impeached, rapist, f’d a porn star while his wife (who clearly can’t stand to be around him anymore) was pregnant, bff wit Jeffery Epstein, has failed and destroyed everything he’s touched. The guy is a complete, total, loser.

Besides that, he looks like a complete idiot. Hi is an 80 year old fat ass who thinks it looks good to paint himself orange, has hair surgery that made him so angry he raped Ivana (look it up), lusts after his own daughter, tried to overthrow an election I which he was totally blown out, and will probably spend the rest of his life in jail.

The man is completely disgusting. How ANYONE could vote for that loser is beyond imagination.

Here is our “Pro Police” candidate (again, 34 time convicted felon) kicking Arizona’s Head of Police off stage.



Also, he told his nephew, who has a special needs son that he should let the kid die (!).



^^^ Seriously, watch this video. It’s insane that ANYONE in this country would vote for him.Where are the Christians? This guy is the lowest of the low. A disgusting, perverted creeper, who has absolutely no interest in the welfare of his lunatic followers.

And, I know, no one wants to listen to this uppity black lawyer, now lawmaker, who has accomplished mor in her short career than the likes of many wing nut around here will EVER achieve.

https://youtu.be/tyPhJAWKr1E?si=OsU2P-A9m4xoSy_i
 
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