I do see the difference.
Hillarys case was much worse.
I thought you didn't want to do this?
What the hell?
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Hillarys case was much worse.
I thought you didn't want to do this?
Woke. There you go boys. Your red meat.
lol...you went fishing and threw it out first. I felt bad you weren't getting any bites 🤷🏻♂️
I’m hearing rumors that Hegseth was a DEI hire. You guys hearing the same?
Maybe the Inspector General’s office should open an investigation. Oh wait…
What’s to add?
Apparently nobody knew the reporter was included. It was supposed to be some guy named J. Greer. I don’t know anything about this app. I’ve seen it reported that its use by government people was routine. (DOGE people have noted often how obsolete and f-up government tech is). In any event after the bombs fell, the mistake became moot. I loved Vance’s comment about Europe.
Leaking it in the run up to a military operation is new territory. You know that. And we’re 60 days in. The sky’s the limit with these dumb f*cks.
No, it’s not used to send top secret docs. lol. You know that. Even a 6th grader would know why that is. You guys are really determined to play dumb through this one?
“Also, as someone who has read his fair share of Top Secret/SCI war plans, this ain't it.”
That’s what Hegseth said. Maybe cya. I don’t know why operational details would be given to this chat- group anyway.
Uh, no. DoD uses Microsoft Teams, and it isn’t authorized for classified discussion or documents either. This is a real screw up.
JD Vance is a miserable cnt. That's the most obvious thing from these messages. Doesn't want to hit the Houthis because it will 'bail out the Euros'
What a sad, disgraceful pile of shit we're in
What a sad, disgraceful pile of shit we're in
If you hear hoofbeats, don't look for the zebra.
Way too many explainers that don't make sense. This was a bad screw up that could easily be addressed by someone saying "my bad, this will never happen again".
Honestly, some cannot admit a single clear mistake. Everything is "defend at all costs, scorched earth". Hegseth screwed up, easy to say. Anything else is obviously a partisan lie
And the rolling of some heads would be appropriate.
Well, it took a while to get their talking points/marching orders, but looks like the Injustice League is starting to respond.
I enjoyed Trump's "deer in the headlights" response to questions about this, and how he quickly insulted the magazine. Later, Hegseth went full on scorched earth on the The Atlantic and the reporter who was included in the chat.
Even if you fully agree with that opinion, it's still nothing but a red meat distraction for the MAGAs. He even threw in a "Russia, Russia, Russia" .
Even if you fully agree with that opinion, it's still nothing but a red meat distraction for the MAGAs. He even threw in a "Russia, Russia, Russia" .
Hasn’t the administration already confirmed the message was authentic?
Good grief…it’s not the reporters fault.
But Trump should hold someone accountable. It’s likely that federal law was broken in this incident. At the absolute very least, these officials conducted themselves extraordinarily foolishly and in a manner that is unbecoming of their offices. They have lost the credibility to criticize the past, present, and future mishandling of sensitive American national-security information (such as Hillary Clinton’s home-brew email server, and Joe Biden and Donald Trump’s stashing of documents in their garages and bathrooms).
In my view, the most egregious behavior was Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s. (The stupidest was National Security Adviser Mike Waltz’s adding of Goldberg to the conversation in the first place.)
Pete Hegseth — the top civilian in the Department of the Defense and a man who has command authority over U.S. military operations worldwide — texted information, over an unsecured channel, that “contained operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing.” That’s shocking, egregious, and totally outrageous.
President Trump should demand Pete Hegseth’s resignation. Today.
A question now hangs over this administration: Will there be accountability under Trump — or does the buck stop nowhere, as it did for the previous four years?
Trump Should Fire Pete Hegseth
Scenario 1: A person caught speeding pulls over and stops for the police officer and admits to speeding
Scenario 2: A person caught speeding floors it in an attempt to escape. Finally gets caught and tries to lie that he was speeding in the first place.
Person in scenario 1 has a chance to get a warning. Person in scenario 2 lost that chance and now has a good chance of testing out handcuffs. No one in their right mind would say that their punishment would/should be the same just because the initial issue was the same (speeding). And definitely wouldn't be claiming that scenario 1 is "much worse".
But I'm not sure why this is even being discussed in this thread other than you have no defense for the actual subject of this thread. so the new strategy must be to derail or yabbut it.
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DOGE did not say our government's classified communications systems were the least bit obsolete. They aren't
"after the bombs fell, the mistake became moot". I'm sorry, but if you are going to take a crap on crooked hillary for her stupid emails, then you surely ought to be appalled by this. Both instances of behavior are appalling. Further, the fact that an end occurred doesn't render a clear screw up like this nunc pro tunc. I don't even think you actually believe that.
Don’t play their misdirection game. This is about this incident. Make them address this incident.
Signal can't even be downloaded on official govt devices, so these shit heads were using personal phones. Which are very hackable.
That analogy works for Biden. They found six pages at his home and they reported it. Hundreds of documents were at Trump's home, and he kept trying to hide them. The two cases aren't close to the same. A shoplifer with a $100 item and submits to arrest when caught vs a bank robber who fights the police trying to arrest him.
Clinton is closer to Trump. They found 60ish top secret documents. That was over time. She could/should have shut down the server after one, certainly after two. She was willing to let it keep happening. That is very problematic.
I get why they go more leniently on people who discover a document and call it in. That is the behavior they want, they don't want them burying the document in the backyard to stay out of prison. It is why Biden's case is so very different than Trump's. The bigwigs who have been caught and punished were actively covering up. That's the behavior they REALLY want to stop.
Create a group that does not report to the president. They monitor documents. After a meeting, no one, not even the president, leaves the room if 10 documents were handed out and 9 were returned. No documents in the private areas of the White House or US Naval Observatory. Documents cannot leave secure areas of House/Senate. The elected have to leave their offices and go to the documents. I know that will cut down on the time they have to call to gladhand for money, but that's just an extra benefit. The problem doesn't seem to be the people who can get fired for losing documents, it is the people who largely won't get fired.
I didn't hear about Hilary's being over time once she was caught She turned over her server when she was being investigated and cooperated through being cleared. She didn't fight the investigation, try to get followers to think the FBI did an improper raid on her house nor have a 2nd server that she tried to hide and claim didn't exist. Having a hard time thinking her scandal was closer to Trump's but sure somewhere between Biden and Trump
