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Well....now what?

next coach likely still coaching for at least another week. Might as well hope to make the NCAAs too.

Also added motivation that missing out entirely could mean that stupid Crown tournament. Which could be almost another month of Woodson as our coach.

So, I’m guessing, and hoping, that we’ll be playing in Dayton.
 
do we still make it to Dayton?
Does it even matter?
Will any IU crowd even make the short drive?
Can anyone provide a reason to care that the season continues?

Or does everyone now just pivot to the big reveal. Start your engines, Mr Dolson. You're about to become the only face that matters.
we just need to end the season now. Why any fan would drive across the street to watch this shit is unbelievable.
 
next coach likely still coaching for at least another week. Might as well hope to make the NCAAs too.

Also added motivation that missing out entirely could mean that stupid Crown tournament. Which could be almost another month of Woodson as our coach.

So, I’m guessing, and hoping, that we’ll be playing in Dayton.
all depends on who the next coach will be. If they are in the tourney...won't announce until their season is over. The Bill Frieder clause.

Crown tourney...F that. We passed on NIT a few yrs back...can't see us doing that.
 
all depends on who the next coach will be. If they are in the tourney...won't announce until their season is over. The Bill Frieder clause.

Crown tourney...F that. We passed on NIT a few yrs back...can't see us doing that.
Except the Crown apparently is a conference deal and bids HAVE to be accepted. I don't think we can turn it down. Maybe the team could pull a Mike Davis and call in sick.
 
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Except the Crown apparently is a conference deal and bids HAVE to be accepted. I don't think we can turn it down. Maybe the team could pull a Mike Davis and call in sick.
What if Woodson decides not to coach? What if players decide not to play? Romeo skipped the NIT.
 
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do we still make it to Dayton?
Does it even matter?
Will any IU crowd even make the short drive?
Can anyone provide a reason to care that the season continues?

Or does everyone now just pivot to the big reveal. Start your engines, Mr Dolson. You're about to become the only face that matters.
If we don’t make the tourney, which I’m ok with, I’d also be ok turning down the NIT. Likely another embarrassing loss to some barely-over-500 team and likely at home.
 
Except the Crown apparently is a conference deal and bids HAVE to be accepted. I don't think we can turn it down. Maybe the team could pull a Mike Davis and call in sick.
Tough to play without a roster. There has to be an out for this ridiculous "tournament." The portal opens a week BEFORE the Crown, so there's no way IU would go. All they would lose is a bit of Fox money.
 
According to Cincinnati sports talk regarding the Crown, if a team is below 7 scholarship players they can opt out of Agreement Fox had in place. I do not know what falling below that threshold entails. New nil rules go into place in April. I imagine IU would like to get sone deals in place, as would players. The portal may develop rapidly. So if IU is in the crown, their season and Woody are aroumd a bit.
 
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According to Cincinnati sports talk regarding the Crown, if a team is below 7 scholarship players they can opt out of Agreement Fox had in place. I do not know what falling below that threshold entails. New nil rules go into place in April. I imagine IU would like to get sone deals in place, as would players. The portal may develop rapidly. So if IU is in the crown, their season and Woody are aroumd a bit.
so most likely scenario is much of our team will be in the portal (opens 3/24) a week before this tourney would begin (3/31). So we possibly would not have enough of a remaining team (assuming players entering the portal are no longer considered scholly players on roster). Weird times...
 
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we just need to end the season now. Why any fan would drive across the street to watch this shit is unbelievable.
IU is 19-13 and 10-10. That's not a disaster, even though you don't like it.

If we cancel the remaining game(s), it would look amateurish and, well, weird. Then, what decent players left on the roster would stick around? And what decent players in the portal would want to come to a bizarre university that cancels a season just because a couple fans said the season (19-13 and 10-10) was "shit". No one respects crybabies and quitters.

Besides, we already went through a complete rebuilding in Crean's first 3-4 years. That's no fun.
 
IU is 19-13 and 10-10. That's not a disaster, even though you don't like it.

If we cancel the remaining game(s), it would look amateurish and, well, weird. Then, what decent players left on the roster would stick around? And what decent players in the portal would want to come to a bizarre university that cancels a season just because a couple fans said the season (19-13 and 10-10) was "shit". No one respects crybabies and quitters.

Besides, we already went through a complete rebuilding in Crean's first 3-4 years. That's no fun.
'disaster' is subjective. But with the NIL spent, it's downright shitty ROI.

Can't compare to Crean rebuild. That was pre-NIL, pre portal. That was the stone age of college Bball.
Look what Pitino did at St John's....year 2 and they are at 30+ wins.

I've never been a Pitino fan but will admit, if we had hired him 10+ years ago there would likely be 2 fresh banners hanging in the Hall, and IU ball would be the place to be today. pains me to say that. but hard to deny.
 
IU is 19-13 and 10-10. That's not a disaster, even though you don't like it.

If we cancel the remaining game(s), it would look amateurish and, well, weird. Then, what decent players left on the roster would stick around? And what decent players in the portal would want to come to a bizarre university that cancels a season just because a couple fans said the season (19-13 and 10-10) was "shit". No one respects crybabies and quitters.

Besides, we already went through a complete rebuilding in Crean's first 3-4 years. That's no fun.
This is different though…..
The coach isn’t returning and as it being a deterrent to future recruits and current guys, those kids are waiting to see who is the next coach. They want this over and turn the page to the next chapter. I think this situation is entirely different due to the regime change.
 
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'disaster' is subjective. But with the NIL spent, it's downright shitty ROI.

Can't compare to Crean rebuild. That was pre-NIL, pre portal. That was the stone age of college Bball.
Look what Pitino did at St John's....year 2 and they are at 30+ wins.

I've never been a Pitino fan but will admit, if we had hired him 10+ years ago there would likely be 2 fresh banners hanging in the Hall, and IU ball would be the place to be today. pains me to say that. but hard to deny.
I can't believe money was spent on Rice and Carlyle. You can literally buy guards now, and this is what Woody comes up with?
 
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I can't believe money was spent on Rice and Carlyle. You can literally buy guards now, and this is what Woody comes up with?
this board and fanbase expected way too much from both.
Rice has potential but way too inconsistent and needs to gain (regain?) strength.
As for Carlyle...you guess as good as mine. Seems like nice kid but had a season to forget.
 
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next coach likely still coaching for at least another week. Might as well hope to make the NCAAs too.

Also added motivation that missing out entirely could mean that stupid Crown tournament. Which could be almost another month of Woodson as our coach.

So, I’m guessing, and hoping, that we’ll be playing in Dayton.
Excellent point. I support whatever provides the fastest path to ending our season.
 
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IU is 19-13 and 10-10. That's not a disaster, even though you don't like it.

If we cancel the remaining game(s), it would look amateurish and, well, weird. Then, what decent players left on the roster would stick around? And what decent players in the portal would want to come to a bizarre university that cancels a season just because a couple fans said the season (19-13 and 10-10) was "shit". No one respects crybabies and quitters.

Besides, we already went through a complete rebuilding in Crean's first 3-4 years. That's no fun.
Nobody thinks that IU decides what to do based on what people on this board or any fan forum say.

It's just weird, you have these Crown games that are at the very end of March and into April, we're getting a new coach. Would the new guy coach those games? Hardly possible, he would have only days/weeks to get here and even get to know our players. Most of our team will be in the portal by then. I'd guess we would just have to decline, for logistical reasons.
 
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'disaster' is subjective. But with the NIL spent, it's downright shitty ROI.

Can't compare to Crean rebuild. That was pre-NIL, pre portal. That was the stone age of college Bball.
Look what Pitino did at St John's....year 2 and they are at 30+ wins.

I've never been a Pitino fan but will admit, if we had hired him 10+ years ago there would likely be 2 fresh banners hanging in the Hall, and IU ball would be the place to be today. pains me to say that. but hard to deny.
NIL or not, the comparison is still valid. You're proposing we all have coaches that hire strippers. You must be a politician.

Humans are still judging other humans, and the other humans still have the right not to transfer to a weird university that cancels a game (earning both millions of dollars and phenomenal national TV exposure desired by the potential transferor and his parents to enhance all their net worth simply for them and their son to put on the jersey of the new school), especially when the weird university has a winning record of 13-10 at the time.

Quality players might not want to go to a weird school. That's what Crean ran into.
 
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