Way too Early Depth Chart and Coaching Staff

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Position (Quantity)	Starter	Bench
Quarterback (4)	Kurtis Rourke	Tayven Jackson, Tyler Cherry, Alberto Mendoza
Running Back (5)	Kaelon Black	Justice Ellison, Elijah Green, Ty Son Lawton, Khobie Martin
Wide Receivers (9)	Donovan McCulley, Elijah Sarratt, Myles Price (Slot)	EJ Williams Jr, Andison Coby, Ke'Shawn Williams, Miles Cross, Omar Cooper Jr, Charlie Becker
Tight End (6)	Zach Horton	Trey Walker, James Bomba, Brody Foley, Sam West, Brody Kosin
Offensive Line (15)	Carter Smith (LT), Tyler Stephens (LG), Mike Katic (C), Trey Wedig (RG), Nick Kidwell (RT)	Noah Bolticoff, Cooper Jones, Vinny Fiacable, Bray Lynch, Drew Evans, Austin Barrett, Adedamola Ajani, Mitch Verstagen, Evan Lawrence, Austin Leibfried
Interior Def Lineman (6)	James Carpenter, Marcus Burris Jr	J'Mari Monette, Robby Harrison, Mario Landino, Tyrique Tucker
Edge / OLB (7)	Jacob Mangum-Farrar (Stud), Mikael Kamara (DE)	Lanell Carr Jr, Venson Sneed Jr, Ta'Derius Collins, Daniel Ndukwe, Williams DePaepe
Inside Linebackers (6)	Aiden Fisher, Jailin Walker	Joshua Rudolph, Kaiden Turner, Isaiah Jones, Quentin Clark
Cornerbacks (8)	Nic Toomer (Rover), Jamier Johnson, Jamari Sharpe	JoJo Johnson, Dontrae Henderson, Josh Philostin, Christian Peterson, Cedarius Doss
Safeties (8)	Josh Sanguinetti, Bryson Bonds	Terry Jones, Shawn Asbury, Tyrik McDaniel, DJ Warnell, Amare Ferrell, Jah Jah Boyd
Special Teams (4)	Derek McCormick (K), James Evans (P), Mark Langston (LS)	Nicolas Radicic (K)

78 Total Players

Position	Name	Previous School
Head Coach	Curt Cignetti	James Madison
OC and Wide Receivers	Mike Shanahan	James Madison
Quarterbacks	Tino Sunseri	James Madison
Offensive Line	Bob Bostad	Indiana/Wisconsin
Running Backs	John Miller	James Madison
Special Teams and Tight Ends	Grant Cain	James Madison
DC and Linebackers	Bryant Haines	James Madison
Defensive Line	Pat Kuntz	James Madison
Defensive Ends	Buddah Williams	Colorado State
Cornerbacks	Rod Ojong	Charlotte
Safeties	Ola Adams	Penn State
Head Strength and Conditioning	Derek Owings	James Madison
Strength and Conditioning Staff	Nate Adams	James Madison
Strength and Conditioning Staff	Carl Miller	Wyoming
Strength and Conditioning Staff	Jared Myatt	Live Oaks High School
Strength and Conditioning Staff	Julian Whitehead	Utah State

 

[red hornet]

Jacob Mangum-Farrar's eligibility has expired.

 

[vesuvius13]

We will have to wait until Spring Practice is over to see what the coaches want to do about players on the edge and who is in the portal they want. I hope we do get a Spring Game once again as it will build interest in this team.

 

[82IU]

I thought Josh Sanguinetti was done.
82

 

[76-1]

I thought Josh Sanguinetti was done.
82

He has one more year...

 

[76-1]

Position	Starters	Backups
Quarterback (5)	Kurtis Rourke	Tayven Jackson, Brock Lowry, Alberto Mendoza, Tyler Cherry
Running Back (7)	Trent Howland	Josh Henderson, Justice Ellison, Kaelon Black, Ty Son Lawton, David Holloman, Khobie Martin
Wide Receivers (10)	Donovan McCulley, EJ Williams, Myles Price (Slot)	Andison Coby, Ke'Shawn Williams, Miles Cross, Omar Cooper Jr, Kamryn Perry, Derrick Bohler, Charlie Becker
Tight End (8)	Trey Walker	Bradley Archer, Zach Horton, James Bomba, Brody Foley, Sam West, Anthony Miller Jr, Brody Kosin
Offensive Line (17)	Trey Wedig, Carter Smith, Tyler Stephens, Nick Kidwell, Noah Bolticoff	Max Longman, Cooper Jones, Vinny Fiacable, Bray Lynch, Drew Evans, Will Larkins, Bubba Jeffries, Austin Barrett, Adedamola Ajani, Mitch Verstagen, Evan Lawrence, Austin Leibfried
Defensive Line (12)	Philip Blidi, James Carpenter, Trey Laing, Mikail Kamara	Marcus Burris Jr, Venson Sneed Jr, J'Mari Monette, Robby Harrison, Ta'Derius Collins, Mario Landino, Daniel Ndukwe, Williams DePaepe
Linebackers (10)	Lanell Carr Jr, Aiden Fisher, Jailin Walker	Joshua Rudolph, Darryl Minor Jr, Matt Hohlt, Kaiden Turner, Isaiah Jones, Orlando Greenlow, Quentin Clark
Defensive Backs (13)	Nic Toomer, Kobee Minor, Jordan Grier, Josh Sanguinetti	Jamier Johnson, Bryson Bonds, Tyrik McDaniel, JoJo Johnson, Jamari Sharpe, Amare Ferrell, Jah Jah Boyd, Dontrae Henderson, Josh Philostin
Kickers and Punters (3)	Derek McCormick (K), James Evans (P)	Nicolas Radicic (K)
Long Snapper (1)	Mark Langston

Total: 86

If CCC is really going after 5 more transfers, then we are looking at losing 6 players from the above chart before the season starts.

Starters were mere guesses. Open to suggested changes.

Holt (if he's healthy) and Rudolph will be out there with Carr at Linebacker, in my opinion...

If we get the LB from Princeton Nicholas then I think he'll end up in one of those slots...

 

[Jssanto]

How does it work to “fire” a guy who has a scholarship and did not enter the portal? Can you just say “sorry I am taking your scholarship away”?
Do you give them some type of non athlete scholarship?

 

[Jssanto]

Position	Starters	Backups
Quarterback (5)	Kurtis Rourke	Tayven Jackson, Brock Lowry, Alberto Mendoza, Tyler Cherry
Running Back (7)	Trent Howland	Josh Henderson, Justice Ellison, Kaelon Black, Ty Son Lawton, David Holloman, Khobie Martin
Wide Receivers (10)	Donovan McCulley, EJ Williams, Myles Price (Slot)	Andison Coby, Ke'Shawn Williams, Miles Cross, Omar Cooper Jr, Kamryn Perry, Derrick Bohler, Charlie Becker
Tight End (8)	Trey Walker	Bradley Archer, Zach Horton, James Bomba, Brody Foley, Sam West, Anthony Miller Jr, Brody Kosin
Offensive Line (17)	Trey Wedig, Carter Smith, Tyler Stephens, Nick Kidwell, Noah Bolticoff	Max Longman, Cooper Jones, Vinny Fiacable, Bray Lynch, Drew Evans, Will Larkins, Bubba Jeffries, Austin Barrett, Adedamola Ajani, Mitch Verstagen, Evan Lawrence, Austin Leibfried
Defensive Line (12)	Philip Blidi, James Carpenter, Trey Laing, Mikail Kamara	Marcus Burris Jr, Venson Sneed Jr, J'Mari Monette, Robby Harrison, Ta'Derius Collins, Mario Landino, Daniel Ndukwe, Williams DePaepe
Linebackers (10)	Lanell Carr Jr, Joshua Rudolph, Matt Hohlt	Aiden Fisher, Jailin Walker, Darryl Minor Jr, Kaiden Turner, Isaiah Jones, Orlando Greenlow, Quentin Clark
Defensive Backs (13)	Nic Toomer, Kobee Minor, Jordan Grier, Josh Sanguinetti	Jamier Johnson, Bryson Bonds, Tyrik McDaniel, JoJo Johnson, Jamari Sharpe, Amare Ferrell, Jah Jah Boyd, Dontrae Henderson, Josh Philostin
Kickers and Punters (3)	Derek McCormick (K), James Evans (P)	Nicolas Radicic (K)
Long Snapper (1)	Mark Langston

Total: 86

If CCC is really going after 5 more transfers, then we are looking at losing 6 players from the above chart before the season starts.

Starters were mere guesses. Open to suggested changes.

Thanks for posting. All guesses until second signing period, spring ball, etc.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

How does it work to “fire” a guy who has a scholarship and did not enter the portal? Can you just say “sorry I am taking your scholarship away”?
Do you give them some type of non athlete scholarship?

I think our bill of rights allows for players to stay at IU for free. Anyone that wanted to keep playing football though would transfer out though.

 

[76-1]

How does it work to “fire” a guy who has a scholarship and did not enter the portal? Can you just say “sorry I am taking your scholarship away”?
Do you give them some type of non athlete scholarship?

His numbers were off. We still have five to give...

Not saying that no one gets asked to leave but if they were and decided to stay their athletic scholarship just changes to an academic scholarship...

That won't be an issue until the end of Spring Ball and with the Portal it's pretty much a non-issue as the guys with obviously no path to PT move on on their own...

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

So will Ta'Derius Collins live up to his recruiting ranking this year?

I assume he was redshirted last year.

 

[JohnsyRick]

Jordan Grier back to the portal, very unlikely he will be here next fall

 

[Tegray1]

Jordan Grier back to the portal, very unlikely he will be here next fall

Trey Walker and Holht may not get scholarships.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Jordan Grier back to the portal, very unlikely he will be here next fall

Mr Indecisive. That gets us to 85.

 

[Walt542]

Thank you for posting this. I have been trying to figure it out.

 

[Walt542]

His numbers were off. We still have five to give...

Not saying that no one gets asked to leave but if they were and decided to stay their athletic scholarship just changes to an academic scholarship...

That won't be an issue until the end of Spring Ball and with the Portal it's pretty much a non-issue as the guys with obviously no path to PT move on on their own...

So how were his numbers off? Are there non scolly players listed?

 

[Tegray1]

So how were his numbers off? Are there non scolly players listed?

We don't know if LS and Kicker got scholarships. Trey Walker and Matt Holht received scholarships at the end of fall camp. We are still offering transfers as of today.

 

[76-1]

So how were his numbers off?

Must be...

I have 5 scholarships left by my count... Could be off by two but not 5...; so 3 left at minimum...

 

[kmathum]

Position	Starters	Backups
Quarterback (5)	Kurtis Rourke	Tayven Jackson, Brock Lowry, Alberto Mendoza, Tyler Cherry
Running Back (7)	Trent Howland	Josh Henderson, Justice Ellison, Kaelon Black, Ty Son Lawton, David Holloman, Khobie Martin
Wide Receivers (10)	Donovan McCulley, EJ Williams, Myles Price (Slot)	Andison Coby, Ke'Shawn Williams, Miles Cross, Omar Cooper Jr, Kamryn Perry, Derrick Bohler, Charlie Becker
Tight End (8)	Trey Walker	Bradley Archer, Zach Horton, James Bomba, Brody Foley, Sam West, Anthony Miller Jr, Brody Kosin
Offensive Line (17)	Trey Wedig, Carter Smith, Tyler Stephens, Nick Kidwell, Noah Bolticoff	Max Longman, Cooper Jones, Vinny Fiacable, Bray Lynch, Drew Evans, Will Larkins, Bubba Jeffries, Austin Barrett, Adedamola Ajani, Mitch Verstagen, Evan Lawrence, Austin Leibfried
Defensive Line (12)	Philip Blidi, James Carpenter, Trey Laing, Mikail Kamara	Marcus Burris Jr, Venson Sneed Jr, J'Mari Monette, Robby Harrison, Ta'Derius Collins, Mario Landino, Daniel Ndukwe, Williams DePaepe
Linebackers (10)	Lanell Carr Jr, Joshua Rudolph, Matt Hohlt	Aiden Fisher, Jailin Walker, Darryl Minor Jr, Kaiden Turner, Isaiah Jones, Orlando Greenlow, Quentin Clark
Defensive Backs (13)	Nic Toomer, Kobee Minor, Jamier Johnson, Josh Sanguinetti	Bryson Bonds, Tyrik McDaniel, JoJo Johnson, Jamari Sharpe, Amare Ferrell, Jah Jah Boyd, Dontrae Henderson, Josh Philostin
Kickers and Punters (3)	Derek McCormick (K), James Evans (P)	Nicolas Radicic (K)
Long Snapper (1)	Mark Langston

Total: 85

If CCC is really going after 5 more transfers, then we are looking at losing 5 players from the above chart before the season starts.

Starters were mere guesses. Open to suggested changes.

What happened to Nick James and Dexter Williams?

 

[76-1]

What happened to Nick James and Dexter Williams?

James- Pitt
Williams- Georgia Southern

 

[Tegray1]

What happened to Nick James and Dexter Williams?

Nick James to Pitt. Dexter to Georgia State.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Must be...

I have 5 scholarships left by my count... Could be off by two but not 5...; so 3 left at minimum...

Have I listed players that aren't on the team (or that are walk-ons)? The numbers of players listed in my post add up to 86 currently.

 

[Stlgator2223]

Fisher and Walker at LBs spots need 2 safties and WR who can stretch the D .Plus a DT run stuffer

 

[POTFHBTFU]

I think our bill of rights allows for players to stay at IU for free. Anyone that wanted to keep playing football though would transfer out though.

Normally they would have to medically retire for it not to count and stay in scholarship. Ncaa is making it hard to get reinstated. However, there is an exception when there is a new coach I believe for two seasons so this year they could do what you are saying.

 

[Tegray1]

Have I listed players that aren't on the team (or that are walk-ons)? The numbers of players listed in my post add up to 86 currently.

Yes. The new kicker and LS and Holht and Trey Walker

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Yes. The new kicker and LS and Holht and Trey Walker

they're all walk-ons?

 

[Tegray1]

they're all walk-ons?

Could be. Holht and Walker started that way.

 

[Bligedy]

Position (Quantity)	Starter	Bench
Quarterback (5)	Kurtis Rourke	Tavyven Jackson, Broc Lowry, Alberto Mendoza, Tyler Cherry
Running Back (7)	Trent Howland	Josh Henderson, Justice Ellison, Kaelon Black, Ty Son Lawton, David Holloman, Khobie Martin
Wide Receivers (10)	Donovan McCulley, EJ Williams, Myles Price (Slot)	Andison Coby, Ke'Shawn Williams, Miles Cross, Omar Cooper Jr, Kamryn Perry, Derrick Bohler, Charlie Becker
Tight End (8)	Zach Horton	Bradley Archer, Trey Walker, James Bomba, Brody Foley, Sam West, Anthony Miller Jr, Brody Kosin
Offensive Line (18)	Carter Smith (LT), Tyler Stephens (LG), Mike Katic (C), Nick Kidwell (RG), Trey Wedig (RT)	Noah Bolticoff, Max Longman, Cooper Jones, Vinny Fiacable, Bray Lynch, Drew Evans, Will Larkins, Bubba Jeffries, Austin Barrett, Adedamola Ajani, Mitch Verstagen, Evan Lawrence, Austin Leibfried
Defensive Line (13)	Philip Blidi (DT), James Carpenter (DT), Mikail Kamara (DE), Lanell Carr Jr (Stud)	Marcus Burris Jr, Trey Laing, Venson Sneed Jr, J'Mari Monette, Robby Harrison, Ta'Derius Collins, Mario Landino, Daniel Ndukwe, Williams DePaepe
Linebackers (9)	Joshua Rudolph, Matt Hohlt	Jailin Walker, Aiden Fisher, Darryl Minor Jr, Kaiden Turner, Isaiah Jones, Orlando Greenlow, Quentin Clark
Defensive Backs (12)	Nic Toomer (Rover), Jamier Johnson (CB), Kobee Minor (CB), Josh Sanguinetti (S), Bryson Bonds (S)	Tyrik McDaniel, JoJo Johnson, Jamari Sharpe, Amare Ferrell, Jah Jah Boyd, Dontrae Henderson, Josh Philostin
Special Teams (4)	Derek McCormick (K), James Evans (P), Mark Langston (LS)	Nicolas Radicic (K)

Total: 86
Possibly 82 if Derek McCormick, Mark Langston, Matt Hohlt and Trey Walker end up being walk-ons

CCC has stated that he is still going after 3-5 more transfers.

Starters were mere guesses. Open to suggested changes.

I think the JMU transfers will be the LBs. Burris will be in there somewhere as a starter on the DL.

I'd swap Wedig and Kidwell

 

[Hoosier Clarion]

Fisher and Walker at LBs spots need 2 safties and WR who can stretch the D .Plus a DT run stuffer

There is a DT on the roster listed at 6'2" - 333. Have never read his BIO but he has that run stuffer size. Can only hope he develops.

 

[red hornet]

As I understand it, both the LS & K are on scholarship.

 

[iueyedoc99]

Fisher and Walker at LBs spots need 2 safties and WR who can stretch the D .Plus a DT run stuffer

I think we got the burner…new transfer WR Williams from Wake announced a few days ago.

 

[Tegray1]

I think we got the burner…new transfer WR Williams from Wake announced a few days ago.

He had been committed for a few weeks.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

We already have 10 WRs. The only 1 we might add at this point that I know of is Sarratt.

 

[Tegray1]

We already have 10 WRs. The only 1 we might add at this point that I know of is Sarratt.

Yep. 11 is the number.

 

[76-1]

Have I listed players that aren't on the team (or that are walk-ons)? The numbers of players listed in my post add up to 86 currently.

All I can tell you is that at the start of the Portal exodus and prior to our incoming class I had 45 guys counted as still on the roster as "Full Scholarship" guys who actually counted towards our 85... At the time, I figured I might be off by two (as to guys who were actually brought in on Full Scholarships) but no more than that...

Starting at 45 we added 31 equaling 76 with 9 to give... Some guys have been added since then I believe... (3, I think) so we're at 6, if I'm off by two (which is probable), we're at 4, which matches Cignetti's statement that'd we'd pick up another 3 to 5 in this Portal cycle which confirms (to me at least) that my numbers are close...

Worse case using your roster above, we're at 82 (you have some walk on 1 yr awarded scholarship guys counted)... so we're at 3 to give...

If we're using yours we'd be be done in the Portal until May (I kept saying April but saw a reputable source stating the Spring Portal opened in May, I must have been looking at last years dates)..,,

I'm fairly certain Cignetti knows exactly how many he has available so I'm not concerned... I just looked at mine for entertainment purposes much like you did with yours...

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

All I can tell you is that at the start of the Portal exodus and prior to our incoming class I had 45 guys counted as still on the roster as "Full Scholarship" guys who actually counted towards our 85... At the time, I figured I might be off by two (as to guys who were actually brought in on Full Scholarships) but no more than that...

Starting at 45 we added 31 equaling 76 with 9 to give... Some guys have been added since then I believe... (3, I think) so we're at 6, if I'm off by two (which is probable), we're at 4, which matches Cignetti's statement that'd we'd pick up another 3 to 5 in this Portal cycle which confirms (to me at least) that my numbers are close...

Worse case using your roster above, we're at 82 (you have some walk on 1 yr awarded scholarship guys counted)... so we're at 3 to give...

If we're using yours we'd be be done in the Portal until May (I kept saying April but saw a reputable source stating the Spring Portal opened in May, I must have been looking at last years dates)..,,

I'm fairly certain Cignetti knows exactly how many he has available so I'm not concerned... I just looked at mine for entertainment purposes much like you did with yours...

Yea, I'm sure CCC knows more than we do as to the scholarship situation. No doubt it will be at the 85 limit.

Hard for us to know which walk-ons (if any) that got scholarships will go back to being walk-ons. Plus, I haven't seen an article mention the status of the incoming K or LS and if they would be a scholarship or walk-on.

 

[JohnsyRick]

All I can tell you is that at the start of the Portal exodus and prior to our incoming class I had 45 guys counted as still on the roster as "Full Scholarship" guys who actually counted towards our 85... At the time, I figured I might be off by two (as to guys who were actually brought in on Full Scholarships) but no more than that...

Starting at 45 we added 31 equaling 76 with 9 to give... Some guys have been added since then I believe... (3, I think) so we're at 6, if I'm off by two (which is probable), we're at 4, which matches Cignetti's statement that'd we'd pick up another 3 to 5 in this Portal cycle which confirms (to me at least) that my numbers are close...

Worse case using your roster above, we're at 82 (you have some walk on 1 yr awarded scholarship guys counted)... so we're at 3 to give...

If we're using yours we'd be be done in the Portal until May (I kept saying April but saw a reputable source stating the Spring Portal opened in May, I must have been looking at last years dates)..,,

I'm fairly certain Cignetti knows exactly how many he has available so I'm not concerned... I just looked at mine for entertainment purposes much like you did with yours...

I think the roster, as far as scholarships, is still very fluid. As it stands now, there are about 8 portal guys scheduled to visit next week

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Have a feeling ccc won't shy away from telling some current players to move on

 

[76-1]

My areas of dire need are: S and LB

Need: DE & DT

Luxury, but could win us a couple of games and be really fun to watch: WR

Sure would like to have another: G/C

 

[Tegray1]

Have a feeling ccc won't shy away from telling some current players to move on

I don't think there is any doubt about this. I bet there are guys that wanted to come back that were told no.