Watched an Old IU Game Today

[FormerRevMatt]

I sometimes will watch an old IU game while exercising and today watched the IU/Maryland NCAA game from 1981.

Given IU's recent struggles, what struck me was how good of a shooting team that was. Kitchel and Wittman are a given, as is Thomas, but Tolbert was a very confident and effective mid-range shooter as well. Even Turner confidently hit some mid-range shots as well.

All they had to do was spread the floor and opponents essentially had to pick their poison. This team would've been every bit as effective today with the 3-point shot as they were back then.

Shooting is timeless.

Also, Maryland (with Albert King & Buck Williams) really pushed the pace. Very few substitutions were made by RMK. 20 year old kids don't need a lot of rest. I'm just sayin'...

 

[mcmurtry66]

I sometimes will watch an old IU game while exercising and today watched the IU/Maryland NCAA game from 1981.

Given IU's recent struggles, what struck me was how good of a shooting team that was. Kitchel and Wittman are a given, as is Thomas, but Tolbert was a very confident and effective mid-range shooter as well.

All they had to do was spread the floor and opponents essentially had to pick their poison. This team would've been every bit as effective today with the 3-point shot as they were back then.

Shooting is timeless.

Also, Maryland (with Albert King & Buck Williams) really pushed the pace. Very few substitutions were made by RMK. 20 year old kids don't need a lot of rest. I'm just sayin'...

My biggest complaint is the substitutions. 20 year old kids not needing a lot of rest is spot on.

 

[victorbear]

My biggest complaint is the substitutions. 20 year old kids not needing a lot of rest is spot on.

Millennials are weak minded individuals.

 

[wawasee]

Millennials are weak minded individuals.

As usual a silly statement. Both of my kids are strong willed tough minded people. I know several others that are the same.

 

[ufo33]

I sometimes will watch an old IU game while exercising and today watched the IU/Maryland NCAA game from 1981.

Given IU's recent struggles, what struck me was how good of a shooting team that was. Kitchel and Wittman are a given, as is Thomas, but Tolbert was a very confident and effective mid-range shooter as well. Even Turner confidently hit some mid-range shots as well.

All they had to do was spread the floor and opponents essentially had to pick their poison. This team would've been every bit as effective today with the 3-point shot as they were back then.

Shooting is timeless.

Also, Maryland (with Albert King & Buck Williams) really pushed the pace. Very few substitutions were made by RMK. 20 year old kids don't need a lot of rest. I'm just sayin'...

The 1981 Maryland Massacre!
Timeless a$$ whipping of a team that many had projected to the Final Four.
IU was on a roll!

 

[victorbear]

As usual a silly statement. Both of my kids are strong willed tough minded people. I know several others that are the same.

It's a joke, well kind of.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

I sometimes will watch an old IU game while exercising and today watched the IU/Maryland NCAA game from 1981.

Given IU's recent struggles, what struck me was how good of a shooting team that was. Kitchel and Wittman are a given, as is Thomas, but Tolbert was a very confident and effective mid-range shooter as well. Even Turner confidently hit some mid-range shots as well.

All they had to do was spread the floor and opponents essentially had to pick their poison. This team would've been every bit as effective today with the 3-point shot as they were back then.

Shooting is timeless.

Also, Maryland (with Albert King & Buck Williams) really pushed the pace. Very few substitutions were made by RMK. 20 year old kids don't need a lot of rest. I'm just sayin'...

Great game! This was while I was at IU and IU proved unbeatable that tournament. They were clicking on all cylinders at the right time of the year after struggling early in the season. They had the most losses of any NCAA champion to that point. I believe they still have the record for largest average winning margin for an NCAA championship tournament. Haven’t checked that lately, but I don’t believe any other champion rolled through the way they did. Not a close game, even the championship game.

 

[ufo33]

Great game! This was while I was at IU and IU proved unbeatable that tournament. They were clicking on all cylinders at the right time of the year after struggling early in the season. They had the most losses of any NCAA champion to that point. I believe they still have the record for largest average winning margin for an NCAA championship tournament. Haven’t checked that lately, but I don’t believe any other champion rolled through the way they did. Not a close game, even the championship game.

IU steamrolled through the 1981 NCAA Tournament.

 

[minneman]

Millennials are weak minded individuals.

Not only is this statement dumb for stereotyping a whole generation, it's extra stupid considering the college players now are not Millennials with the possible exception of seniors. The Millennial generation ended in 1996. These are now Gen Z.

The only Millennial on the team is D. Davis.

But stupid, inaccurate posts are par for the course for you.

 

[Birnk403]

IU steamrolled through the 1981 NCAA Tournament.

Playing the Mideast Regional semi final and final at Assembly Hall didn’t hurt, either.

 

[Kyser123]

The old saying was “ give Knight a week to prepare , and he’ll beat anyone “

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

IU's 81 starters were all legit 1st round NBA talent, and Isiah is a lock for NBA all time top 50. The motion offense with no shot clock is almost unfair: somebody is eventually going to get open.

 

[Kyser123]

Met all of them except IT after the championship at the mall when I was a kid. IT was already gone.

 

[IU? I'm Fine]

I sometimes will watch an old IU game while exercising and today watched the IU/Maryland NCAA game from 1981.

Given IU's recent struggles, what struck me was how good of a shooting team that was. Kitchel and Wittman are a given, as is Thomas, but Tolbert was a very confident and effective mid-range shooter as well. Even Turner confidently hit some mid-range shots as well.

All they had to do was spread the floor and opponents essentially had to pick their poison. This team would've been every bit as effective today with the 3-point shot as they were back then.

Shooting is timeless.

Also, Maryland (with Albert King & Buck Williams) really pushed the pace. Very few substitutions were made by RMK. 20 year old kids don't need a lot of rest. I'm just sayin'...

Shooting is timeless. I. Thomas was one of a kind PG.

To compare that team with any today does not compute. The NBA has stolen all of the great and good players. Teams today are left with second stringers and those that breakout.

But it is fun to go back and see the cream of the crop.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

IU's 81 starters were all legit 1st round NBA talent, and Isiah is a lock for NBA all time top 50. The motion offense with no shot clock is almost unfair: somebody is eventually going to get open.

Love the comment about the motion offense and shot clock. So true. And this team had a couple of my favorite shooters in program history. There’s another thread on here that talks about a lack of toughness with the kids on the recent squads. This 1981 team had an over abundance of hard nosed, tough-willed players. Some of the mentally strongest players in IU history.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

I sometimes will watch an old IU game while exercising and today watched the IU/Maryland NCAA game from 1981.

Given IU's recent struggles, what struck me was how good of a shooting team that was. Kitchel and Wittman are a given, as is Thomas, but Tolbert was a very confident and effective mid-range shooter as well. Even Turner confidently hit some mid-range shots as well.

All they had to do was spread the floor and opponents essentially had to pick their poison. This team would've been every bit as effective today with the 3-point shot as they were back then.

Shooting is timeless.

Also, Maryland (with Albert King & Buck Williams) really pushed the pace. Very few substitutions were made by RMK. 20 year old kids don't need a lot of rest. I'm just sayin'...

The big 10 actually tried the three-point line, as experiment, I believe the following year? And Kitchel led the league in three-point shooting, which shouldn’t surprise anyone. One the best shooters ever at IU. And one of the toughest minded players.

 

[FormerRevMatt]

The big 10 actually tried the three-point line, as experiment, I believe the following year? And Kitchel led the league in three-point shooting, which shouldn’t surprise anyone. One the best shooters ever at IU. And one of the toughest minded players.

I was reminded that Tolbert was a really emotional player. He played incredibly hard and was clearly the physical and emotional leader on that team.

Something this team is dearly missing.

 

[darkhawk returns]

Thomas would have been a one and done (instead of 2), today. How good would they have been without one of the best PG's in program history (if not the best)?

I sometimes will watch an old IU game while exercising and today watched the IU/Maryland NCAA game from 1981.

Given IU's recent struggles, what struck me was how good of a shooting team that was. Kitchel and Wittman are a given, as is Thomas, but Tolbert was a very confident and effective mid-range shooter as well. Even Turner confidently hit some mid-range shots as well.

All they had to do was spread the floor and opponents essentially had to pick their poison. This team would've been every bit as effective today with the 3-point shot as they were back then.

Shooting is timeless.

Also, Maryland (with Albert King & Buck Williams) really pushed the pace. Very few substitutions were made by RMK. 20 year old kids don't need a lot of rest. I'm just sayin'...

 

[FormerRevMatt]

Thomas would have been a one and done (instead of 2), today. How good would they have been without one of the best PG's in program history (if not the best)?

True. Zeke would have been 1 and done and Tolbert would have been long gone prior to 1981.

 

[victorbear]

True. Zeke would have been 1 and done and Tolbert would have been long gone prior to 1981.

This is a pointless argument brought forth by one of the most ignorant posters on this forum.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

I was reminded that Tolbert was a really emotional player. He played incredibly hard and was clearly the physical and emotional leader on that team.

Something this team is dearly missing.

Ray was high energy and a beast. So gifted physically.

 

[IU? I'm Fine]

This is a pointless argument brought forth by one of the most ignorant posters on this forum.

Once again Vbear tries to hijack the discussion with personal attack and stupidity.

 

[ufo33]

IU's 81 starters were all legit 1st round NBA talent, and Isiah is a lock for NBA all time top 50. The motion offense with no shot clock is almost unfair: somebody is eventually going to get open.

I wish there was still no shot clock.
I hate the shot clock in college.

 

[abraxis]

As usual a silly statement. Both of my kids are strong willed tough minded people. I know several others that are the same.

I bet they are, what with all those plastic trophies to show for it.

 

[Bippy]

IU's 81 starters were all legit 1st round NBA talent, and Isiah is a lock for NBA all time top 50. The motion offense with no shot clock is almost unfair: somebody is eventually going to get open.

Great Dane Fife quote on Part 2 of his Peegs Podcast when talking about the motion offense: "the ball finds the open man".

 

[kkott]

I sometimes will watch an old IU game while exercising and today watched the IU/Maryland NCAA game from 1981.

Given IU's recent struggles, what struck me was how good of a shooting team that was. Kitchel and Wittman are a given, as is Thomas, but Tolbert was a very confident and effective mid-range shooter as well. Even Turner confidently hit some mid-range shots as well.

All they had to do was spread the floor and opponents essentially had to pick their poison. This team would've been every bit as effective today with the 3-point shot as they were back then.

Shooting is timeless.

Also, Maryland (with Albert King & Buck Williams) really pushed the pace. Very few substitutions were made by RMK. 20 year old kids don't need a lot of rest. I'm just sayin'...

Why torture yourself during a season where we are underperforming (again!), by watching probably the best performance of one of our greatest teams? Funny enough, I played pickup ball down here in Charlotte with a guy that was a reserve on that MD team. He said in retrospect that he thought Lefty (Driesell) thought their only chance was to catch IU on an off shooting night. He said in preparation he only showed them video from 1 game, and it must have been their worst game of the year, and it was of IU missing outside shots and said for them to pack it in and try and shut down Ray and Landon inside. He said he knew they were in trouble watching IU shoot in warmups. Nobody was beating IU on that night.

 

[kkott]

I bet they are, what with all those plastic trophies to show for it.

Don't be a douche....

they have ribbons too!

 

[MrBing]

Great game! This was while I was at IU and IU proved unbeatable that tournament. They were clicking on all cylinders at the right time of the year after struggling early in the season. They had the most losses of any NCAA champion to that point. I believe they still have the record for largest average winning margin for an NCAA championship tournament. Haven’t checked that lately, but I don’t believe any other champion rolled through the way they did. Not a close game, even the championship game.

Must have been great for you old guys but I was 5 and didn't know what a Hoosier was.

 

[abraxis]

One of my favorite games, and one in my possession in VHS format, is the 1987 IU vs UNLV semi-final game pitting the only two #1 seeds left in the tourney. It features 3 players scoring 30 or more pts. Alford led IU with 33 while the Running Rebels' Freddie Banks had 38, plus Armen Gilliam's 32. IU made 63% of their 2-pt. shots, 50% of 3 pt shots (2-4) and 75% of their FT's (21-28). UNLV made 13 3-pt shots. UNLV took 82 shots (43%) to IU's 60 (62%). Of note is that IU had the only two players in this game who never sat out for a breather..Dean Garrett and Ricky Calloway each played all 40 min. with Steve Alford logging 37 min. For whatever reason, that's almost unheard of today, especially in a game of this intensity.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Why torture yourself during a season where we are underperforming (again!), by watching probably the best performance of one of our greatest teams? Funny enough, I played pickup ball down here in Charlotte with a guy that was a reserve on that MD team. He said in retrospect that he thought Lefty (Driesell) thought their only chance was to catch IU on an off shooting night. He said in preparation he only showed them video from 1 game, and it must have been their worst game of the year, and it was of IU missing outside shots and said for them to pack it in and try and shut down Ray and Landon inside. He said he knew they were in trouble watching IU shoot in warmups. Nobody was beating IU on that night.

I've never seen a team roll through the NCAA tournament like that team did. They jumped on every team early and didn't let up. The closest game was the championship game against NC who had beaten IU early in the season. The first half was close, but IU pulled away in the second and it didn't ever seem like NC had a chance to win.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

One of my favorite games, and one in my possession in VHS format, is the 1987 IU vs UNLV semi-final game pitting the only two #1 seeds left in the tourney. It features 3 players scoring 30 or more pts. Alford led IU with 33 while the Running Rebels' Freddie Banks had 38, plus Armen Gilliam's 32. IU made 63% of their 2-pt. shots, 50% of 3 pt shots (2-4) and 75% of their FT's (21-28). UNLV made 13 3-pt shots. UNLV took 82 shots (43%) to IU's 60 (62%). Of note is that IU had the only two players in this game who never sat out for a breather..Dean Garrett and Ricky Calloway each played all 40 min. with Steve Alford logging 37 min. For whatever reason, that's almost unheard of today, especially in a game of this intensity.

I have the entire 1987 tournament on VHS. I used parts of it in a presentation on leadership and discipline for one of my MS classes. Some of the students and the professor didn't like the idea that Bob Knight was a leader, but he was, as were players like Alford. Ended up with an A for the class, but I think I got less than that for that presentation. Like Bob Knight, I didn't give a sh!t.

The UNLV game was my favorite game of that tournament.

 

[Univee2]

I have the entire 1987 tournament on VHS. I used parts of it in a presentation on leadership and discipline for one of my MS classes. Some of the students and the professor didn't like the idea that Bob Knight was a leader, but he was, as were players like Alford. Ended up with an A for the class, but I think I got less than that for that presentation. Like Bob Knight, I didn't give a sh!t.

The UNLV game was my favorite game of that tournament.

Classic moment was Alford drilling a three while being fouled and then walking to the free throw line with both arms raised, flashing four fingers.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Classic moment was Alford drilling a three while being fouled and then walking to the free throw line with both arms raised, flashing four fingers.

Alford was as tough as they come as a player. I really like Marty Simmons too when both were Frosh. I kind of liked Marty a little better that year. However, Marty wasn't able to hang at IU under Knight like Alford did. That's unfortunate for Marty as he could have been another contributor to that National Championship team. IU might have been better with him.

 

[Brockway]

I sometimes will watch an old IU game while exercising and today watched the IU/Maryland NCAA game from 1981.

Is that game online? Link?

 

[abraxis]

I have the entire 1987 tournament on VHS. I used parts of it in a presentation on leadership and discipline for one of my MS classes. Some of the students and the professor didn't like the idea that Bob Knight was a leader, but he was, as were players like Alford. Ended up with an A for the class, but I think I got less than that for that presentation. Like Bob Knight, I didn't give a sh!t.

The UNLV game was my favorite game of that tournament.

It certainly does seem we’re in the era of the good times, gone. Different people now, different expectations, I do believe.

Thank you for holding strong against the doubting throng. Bob admires perseverance in fighting for what you believe in. That is, fighting until you got no further fight left to right.

People will see what kind of leader “The General” was when his body lies in State, within Assembly Hall, after his “Army” of admirers march has come to pass, so last the critics to kiss his ass, now upturned and within their grasps. Pray that His wind not come to pass!