Orrrrrrr......and just bear with me on this stretch.....he was just a crazy guy who set up a really bad bomb and then shot himself before it went off.
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Wait. Are you telling us Trump and MAGA don’t support Ukraine?
Says he divorced that woman several years ago and she was remarried and living in FL.
What the hell?
Are they thinking he committed suicide before detonating the bomb? Why would he do that?
Why bother with a bullet when the bomb would do the job?
That doesn’t make any sense.
Did you see that thing blow up? Anyone inside that thing would have died instantly.
Maybe someone just wanted to kill the dude and this is a diversion.
Maybe it’s just negligence, stupidity.
Are those devices the best a Green Beret can do? I think it may be he simply wanted to commit suicide in as visible of a way as possible. Shooting himself, his preferred way, wouldn't make him front page.
It may not be that, I am just suggesting it cannot be discounted yet
The guy was a green beret. I’d think he would have known what kind of blast the bomb he assembled would make.
The whole thing is just very strange.
Green berets aren’t bomb builders. And unless he was an 18C - he would only have marginal explosives training.
Next you’ll tell us green berets aren’t all proficient with bow and explosive arrows.
That may be true, an ATF guy said this:
“The level of sophistication is not what we would expect from an individual with this type of military experience,” Cooper said.
What to know about Matthew Livelsberger, former Green Beret killed in Trump hotel Cybertruck explosion
Officials have identified the suspect in the Tesla Cybertruck attack outside the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, which killed the driver and injured at least seven others.
www.latimes.com
That is what I was basing it on, he may not know anything either. But there are plenty of bomb manuals online, he could have done better.
As to his politics, from that link:
On his Facebook profile, Livelsberger once criticized the withdrawal of the U.S. Armed Forced from Afghanistan in 2021. He called it the “biggest foreign-policy failure in the history of the United States.”
“Bet Bolton got a hefty chunk from the DNC and other slimy donors to put the book out,” he wrote in a comment, referring to former-U.S. National Security Advisor John Bolton and his memoir released in 2020.
When accused of being a conspiracy theorist, Livelsberger responded: “It’s not conspiracy when it’s pretty obvious guy made money from the dems.”
Most vets and active duty combat troops would say the botched pull out from Afghanistan was an unmitigated disaster. That doesn’t make us conspiracy theorists.That may be true, an ATF guy said this:
“The level of sophistication is not what we would expect from an individual with this type of military experience,” Cooper said.
What to know about Matthew Livelsberger, former Green Beret killed in Trump hotel Cybertruck explosion
Officials have identified the suspect in the Tesla Cybertruck attack outside the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, which killed the driver and injured at least seven others.
That is what I was basing it on, he may not know anything either. But there are plenty of bomb manuals online, he could have done better.
As to his politics, from that link:
On his Facebook profile, Livelsberger once criticized the withdrawal of the U.S. Armed Forced from Afghanistan in 2021. He called it the “biggest foreign-policy failure in the history of the United States.”
“Bet Bolton got a hefty chunk from the DNC and other slimy donors to put the book out,” he wrote in a comment, referring to former-U.S. National Security Advisor John Bolton and his memoir released in 2020.
When accused of being a conspiracy theorist, Livelsberger responded: “It’s not conspiracy when it’s pretty obvious guy made money from the dems.”
I don’t know why criticizing Bolton increases rhetoric chances he deliberately wanted to target a Trump icon. Trump hated Bolton. I’ve been out of the country for vacation and don’t know all the details so I don’t understand a tie there.
It isn't the pull out, the Bolton took Democratic money to write the book sure implies Bolton wrote it on behalf of Ds to me.
I understand that I just don’t see how that informs motive.
Las Vegas Cybertruck explosion investigators piece together suspect's final hours
Matthew Livelsberger -- the driver of the Tesla Cybertruck that exploded outside the Trump International Las Vegas Hotel -- died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Las Vegas Cybertruck explosion investigators piece together suspect's final hours
Matthew Livelsberger -- the driver of the Tesla Cybertruck that exploded outside the Trump International Las Vegas Hotel -- died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.abcnews.go.com
Seeing the video, the truck isn't in a place where it could inflict many casualties. Not many were near it. I think the high-profile suicide becomes more likely. If he wanted to kill others. he was way off target. If he wanted to damage the hotel, he could have found ways to get closer (and use a better explosive mixture). Dying at a Trump Hotel in a Tesla may just be a crazy person's way of showing respect to Trump and Musk. The Tesla was very much a funeral pyre for him. Not a lot else makes sense.
Master Sergeant Livelsberger seems to have been an outstanding soldier:
Looking more and more like a statement suicide. Not sure of the statement.
Looking more and more like a statement suicide. Not sure of the statement.
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What part of "online" confuses you? "Things don't make sense" is the definition.
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