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Trump Tariffs

My wife does all the grocery shopping and is an inveterate label reader. You would be shocked to know just how much of the food sold at WalMart is labeled "Product of Canada," among other places. And not just packaged stuff either, I'm talking fresh vegetables and breads and bakery items. Tack on 25% or more and tell me what kind of reaction you get from the working class family trying to make ends meet.
25 percent on prices that are already high. It’d be one thing if we tried this experiment in 2020 with 1.4 percent inflation. You have 4 years and 21 percent THEN try this it’s a recipe for disaster
 
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Inflation was bad and a major driver of why the Ds got the boot. I’m just saying we shouldn’t be celebrating a policy that will also lead to higher prices and impact the working families the most.
Well, our swamp policies have created all of this for decades. Yes I am biased because I lost a business and 15 employees had to create a totally new life, because of all of this shit (Nafta) and yes I am still pissed.
We sold our soul to Mexico.. Then CHina... Then Korean, Singapore, then and then and then.........
All of the "Living wage" people keep pushing our jobs to $.50/ hour labor countries so they can have cheap shit, and then make a big mac (alone) $7.00. And then they are perfectly fine with those shit hole countries and conditions that they force all of our production to, for their own FEELZ, take our jobs and place a 100% tariff on what little we do still produce.
AND LIB'S BITCH that us doing less tariffs will create price increases. I'd love to say that this is simply ANOTHER "unintended consequence". NOPE NOPE NOPE.... Swamp is effing us while making bank. SWAMP, NOT D, SWAMP. You can't spell Swamp without both a D and an R. It's well past time that their chickens come home to roost.
The swampies are coming, the swampies are coming. 1776 all over again because American's got weak! They work FOR US!
 
My wife does all the grocery shopping and is an inveterate label reader. You would be shocked to know just how much of the food sold at WalMart is labeled "Product of Canada," among other places. And not just packaged stuff either, I'm talking fresh vegetables and breads and bakery items. Tack on 25% or more and tell me what kind of reaction you get from the working class family trying to make ends meet.
Also, many landscape plants (strangely, including cacti and dry-loving succulents) are rooted and/or sprouted in Canada. Knockout roses were definitely developed in Canada.

And, and, and, what about all those affordable health-improving or life-saving drugs from Canada? Maybe Trump already stockpiled his.
 
And, and, and, what about all those affordable health-improving or life-saving drugs from Canada? Maybe Trump already stockpiled his.

Anymore the drugs the wife gets in "under the table" come from Turkey or some other oddball place. Not much from CA nowadays. Of course, now that she's on Medicare and Humana, it's not necessary to go outside the system very often like it was before.
 
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True. Prices rising for this or that good isn’t necessarily due to currency dilution. But the effect is similar, if isolated. And, of course, what secondary effects come from that will hinge on the magnitude of the tariff.

Either way, it’s bad public policy…even if the motivation is less about trade protectionism and more about leverage against another country for unrelated policy changes.
But, it's OK if it sounds like what he promised.
 
Inflation was bad and a major driver of why the Ds got the boot. I’m just saying we shouldn’t be celebrating a policy that will also lead to higher prices and impact the working families the most.
I assume you’re also against letting the Trump tax cuts expire?
 
We need some tariffs. We need most of the TCJA to expire. We need to raise some taxes. We need to cut a lot of spending.
That’s reasonable. I’m fine with limited tariffs, but not a fan of this 25% proposal. I don’t want the TCJA to expire unless they’re offset with at least 2X spending cuts.
 
Also, for the rest of you complaining about tariffs, I’ll assume you’re also against letting the Trump tax cuts expire and raising taxes.

Payroll taxes need to increase and SS/Medicare benefits need cut. Until someone has the balls to argue you for that, they aren't serious about deficit reduction.
 
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25 percent on prices that are already high. It’d be one thing if we tried this experiment in 2020 with 1.4 percent inflation. You have 4 years and 21 percent THEN try this it’s a recipe for disaster
YAWN.

I expect you'll soon be able to document how brilliantly Lord Trump can reduce prices (or at least claim credit for any decrease).

Remember -- one of your big reasons for supporting Trump was that he would sow chaos into the entire government system and, thus, (according to you) Congress would come to a standstill and not be able to get anythimg done.

Good luck proving your reasoning was sound, it appears Trump is not waiting for you.

[Insert stupid unfair, response here: ]
 
YAWN.

I expect you'll soon be able to document how brilliantly Lord Trump can reduce prices (or at least claim credit for any decrease).

Remember -- one of your big reasons for supporting Trump was that he would sow chaos into the entire government system and, thus, (according to you) Congress would come to a standstill and not be able to get anythimg done.

Good luck proving your reasoning was sound, it appears Trump is not waiting for you.

[Insert stupid unfair, response here: ]
No one liked your progressive policies. On every count you were wrong. Mostly because you’re incredibly stupid. But don’t let that stop you from posting on political matters
 
Do you truly believe it will yield a spike in inflation? I mean...he already did it once....

Also..the yuan is down ever since Trump was elected...you don't think China will want to fix that?...
Do you truly believe Americans will invest in building manufacturing facilities for low priced goods?

Murt would you like to tell him how your business works?
 
Anymore the drugs the wife gets in "under the table" come from Turkey or some other oddball place. Not much from CA nowadays. Of course, now that she's on Medicare and Humana, it's not necessary to go outside the system very often like it was before.
Care to share any links to how to find these "under the table" drugs? Now that I am poor white trash again, I may need a mule in the future.
 
Do you truly believe Americans will invest in building manufacturing facilities for low priced goods?

Murt would you like to tell him how your business works?
Like shit?

Lifelong Cortez is right. I’ve got multiple businesses enjoying varying degrees of failure in that manufacturing space. It only sort of works because it’s abroad and cheap af. People won’t build plants for it here. They’ll just move it to different countries. China tariff is too high try Vietnam. Try turkey. Etc
 
Payroll taxes need to increase and SS/Medicare benefits need cut. Until someone has the balls to argue you for that, they aren't serious about deficit reduction.
Just lift the income cap on SS taxes and that's fixed. Medicare/caid are tougher, but cuts shouldn't be necessary -- simply slowing the rate of increase in those payouts would help a bunch. I'd also explore allowing individuals and businesses to buy into Medicare coverage; get younger/healthier people paying more into the system than they're taking out.
 
People won’t build plants for it here. They’ll just move it to different countries. China tariff is too high try Vietnam. Try turkey. Etc

At my last job when Trump started in with his China tariffs, one of our Chinese suppliers moved some of their production to Viet Nam. For the stuff that came from there we didn't pay the enhanced Trump tariffs, but otherwise we were still doing business with our same reliable Chinese supplier.
 
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Payroll taxes need to increase and SS/Medicare benefits need cut. Until someone has the balls to argue you for that, they aren't serious about deficit reduction.
I was reading today if they froze spending until 2031 we would have a balance budget. At that point they would need to raise taxes to pay for SS/Medicare. I was surprised.
 
At my last job when Trump started in with his China tariffs, one of our Chinese suppliers moved some of their production to Viet Nam. For the stuff that came from there we didn't pay the enhanced Trump tariffs, but otherwise we were still doing business with our same reliable Chinese supplier.
When I was getting this shit cooking almost a decade ago made in America was big to us. We wanted the flag on our boxes etc. at the time we were just lawyers who had no idea what we were doing. Just arrogant. It’s funny to see the juxtaposition of same with maga today and the campaign and tariffs. What we quickly learned is no one gave a fck about made in America. No one even asked. If you had the top 20 selling points it wouldn’t have been included
 
It's absolutely insane that you think of tax increases and spending cuts as things that are "offsetting." They aren't offsetting at all. They are complimentary and compounding.
They're not complimentary at all. The larger the federal government gets, the less growth we have. If we cut the federal government in half we would have an economic boom in the country. If we raised taxes 50%, we would be in a recession or worse.
 
Just lift the income cap on SS taxes and that's fixed. Medicare/caid are tougher, but cuts shouldn't be necessary -- simply slowing the rate of increase in those payouts would help a bunch. I'd also explore allowing individuals and businesses to buy into Medicare coverage; get younger/healthier people paying more into the system than they're taking out.
I know your comments are about fixing/ going forward, but I have questions. I am only entering the leading edge of the envelope of really NEEDing to understand the SS stuff (as far as a future use point).
My question goes backwards and why no one seems to be correcting what I ASSUME. This is of course a very elementary understanding, yet probably what 90% of America also think.
The GOV said, here is a program so that you don't die totally penniless in the street with no one to compost your body.
Our program takes some of your money (time) that you have no way to opt out of, you are fully opted in, until death, with no control at all.
But because of our (Gov) benevolence , you will have some of YOUR OWN $ when you can't work to at least get your body off the street.
OK, we (gov) kinda used some (fvckin all of it) of your money that we forced you to contribute, but we can't pay it back. Would you mind dieing at home, or at least not on these streets that we also took $$ from you to build (But that really isn't the point right now).
So my question. How is this not communism, or some other (those who are more politically educated of the world than I) form of government that historically puts lipstick on me being their bitch.? Only to find out, when I am dieing on the streets that I helped pay for too.
Point is, I do know that the system, as it is right now, is insolvent. But isn't the fact that the very specific money that each person put into the system, that has been tracked specifically for them, to be paid out to them, was stolen?
Are any of the elected officials that (I know, "borrowed") stole our contributions still alive? The new court system could be activated within 45 seconds... Justice is supposed to always be served to the aggrieved, isn't it? I'll start, who ever the first charged is...... GUILTY ! !
 
What we quickly learned is no one gave a fck about made in America. No one even asked. If you had the top 20 selling points it wouldn’t have been included

We provided products to several distributors who sold to veterans groups like the VFW and the Legion and to charities that were all about 'Murca. We had to bring the stuff in here first and repackage it all so as to remove any possible hint the stuff was imported. We drew the line at using Made in USA labeling on this stuff when we shipped it out, but we were asked about doing it.
 
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Good question. I can't think of any examples. Other than to point out that in the first half of our history, tariffs didn't punish anything; they were just one of the normal ways of raising revenue.
It is forcing these countries to act right. How.many thousands of our citixens have died from fentanyl? I believe 20% of our prison population is illegals. So thus is a good move by the President elect.
 
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