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This is what politicized health care looks like

Not recommending that those kids get the vaccine is one thing. Recommending against it is entirely another. That implies that there's a net downside to the vaccine.
The former is poor advice, particularly from a person who should know better, the latter is criminal behavior.
 
Care to share? Downsides from the vax vs. downside from infection?
What's the upside assuming no side effects? Aren't about 100% of current cases Omicron and the CEO of Pfizer has said the current vaccine does nothing against Omicron. Kids aren't effected by COVID and given how contagious Omicron is nearly all have probably had it especially if they're in school or daycare.
 
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The former is poor advice, particularly from a person who should know better, the latter is criminal behavior.
It is not! Its criminal to push this shit any further. Beyond belief is all the idiots that sold out to this shit while you were being lied too. Heres a gawd damned excerpt from the Osha website. You Need to STFU!

www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqs
Are adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine recordable on the OSHA recordkeeping log?


DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers' vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904's recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination at least through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.

Yes, thats correct they are not recording vaccine deaths, heart attacks, blood clots, injuries and other adverse effects. Your government leading you down the path again. There are lawsuits surfacing already regarding this irresponsible action. WAKE UP!!!
 
Care to share? Downsides from the vax vs. downside from infection?
The data is out there. As I said, it's subjective.

However, at this time, with the virus situation as it is, I think the risk of a serious Covid infection is extremely low and, since there are - and possibly unknown - downsides from the vaccine, I would pass.

I don't have young children, but I wouldn't want my grandchildren to get the vaccine now. They've gone 2 years (for the 3 year old) and 7 months without even getting the virus, despite other children in their daycare being infected. I'm sure they have natural immunity by now.

Why would anyone risk their children with a vaccine not approved for under-5 year olds, given those factors?
 
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...the CEO of Pfizer has said the current vaccine does nothing against Omicron.
damn, just stop with the outright misinformation

He said that two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, if it's been a long time since you got the second dose (say, a year) and your antibodies have waned, provides little protection against omicron infection.

But a booster makes all the difference. A third dose of the current Pfizre vaccine is providing quite good protection against deaths and hospitalizations due to omicron.
 
damn, just stop with the outright misinformation

He said that two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, if it's been a long time since you got the second dose (say, a year) and your antibodies have waned, provides little protection against omicron infection.

But a booster makes all the difference. A third dose of the current Pfizre vaccine is providing quite good protection against deaths and hospitalizations due to omicron.
What deaths due to Omicron? Are you talking about the 500 lb diabetic chain smoker who just happened to test positive at her death? My god you're dumb. Omicron is like the common cold.
 
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What deaths due to Omicron? Are you talking about the 500 lb diabetic chain smoker who just happened to test positive at her death? My god you're dumb. Omicron is like the common cold.
It's verbatim what the CEO said. You misrepresented what he said, dumbass. I corrected you. He said it prevents deaths & hospitalizations. if it's stupid, take it up with him. Maybe he's talking about the thousands of death since omicron took over.

But that's what he said, you dipshit.... or wait... your name, dumb hoosier.
 
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It's verbatim what the CEO said. You misrepresented what he said, dumbass. I corrected you. He said it prevents deaths & hospitalizations. if it's stupid, take it up with him. Maybe he's talking about the thousands of death since omicron took over.

But that's what he said, you dipshit.... or wait... your name, dumb hoosier.
Prevents deaths...Thats Bullshit. The vaccine itself has caused deaths and all kinds of complications. AND its not being recorded. How convenient!
 
Prevents deaths...Thats Bullshit. The vaccine itself has caused deaths and all kinds of complications. AND its not being recorded. How convenient!


Listen and read this slowly. I am making no statements about the vaccines in this thread.

I am correcting what somebody FALSELY CLAIMED that the CEO of Pfizer said about the Pfizer vaccine.

Got it? Or are you DANC-level dumb?
 
It makes you sprout unicorn horns! Wow... that's DANC-level dumb. It's hard to get there...

Listen and read this slowly. I am making no statements about the vaccines in this thread. I am correcting what somebody FALSELY CLAIMED that the CEO of Pfizer said about the Pfizer vaccine? Got it?
If you didn't read the post above from the osha website I cant help you. Also, none of the covid vaccine commercials that the government spent billions of taxpayer dollars on had side effects disclaimers. Lawsuit city is coming soon. Its such an in your face F*ck You by the government it stinks of the government.
 
He's right. COVID is over. And most kids have probably already had it. You'd have to be insane to vaccinate a child.

Insane is right...But But But the government said its ok so it must be ok, duh.

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Focus on what the Pfizer CEO really said vs. what you CLAIMED that he said. They are night and day different. That's all. You can do it!

“Although two doses of the vaccine may still offer protection against severe disease caused by the Omicron strain, it’s clear from these preliminary data that protection is improved with a third dose of our vaccine,” said Albert Bourla, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Pfizer. “Ensuring as many people as possible are fully vaccinated with the first two dose series and a booster remains the best course of action to prevent the spread of COVID-19.”

 
Focus on what the Pfizer CEO really said vs. what you CLAIMED that he said. They are night and day different. That's all. You can do it!

“Although two doses of the vaccine may still offer protection against severe disease caused by the Omicron strain, it’s clear from these preliminary data that protection is improved with a third dose of our vaccine,” said Albert Bourla, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Pfizer. “Ensuring as many people as possible are fully vaccinated with the first two dose series and a booster remains the best course of action to prevent the spread of COVID-19.”

Instead of Covid why didn't we just have a Big Pharma bailout. They didnt have to hide it through a virus and vax. Three doses hell yea! Where do I sign up for that. Hold my immune system!
 
What deaths due to Omicron? Are you talking about the 500 lb diabetic chain smoker who just happened to test positive at her death? My god you're dumb. Omicron is like the common cold.
What? At its height a month or so ago we were getting several thousand deaths per day from Omicron. There aren’t that many 500 lb. people. And since when can the common cold land you in the hospital, let alone kill you?

 
Instead of Covid why didn't we just have a Big Pharma bailout. They didnt have to hide it through a virus and vax. Three doses hell yea! Where do I sign up for that. Hold my immune system!
Wait what?

For that to be an actual choice would mean that covid was a 'choice' that was controlled.

That's some deep state science fiction.

What's more likely, a strain of SARS emerged that swept over the world or the government's of the world got together with pharmaceutical companies and planned the whole thing?

That's got to the most idiotic theory of all theories. If someone made a movie with that as the plot it would be a comedy from how dumb the premise is.
 
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Wait what?

For that to be an actual choice would mean that covid was a 'choice' that was controlled.

That's some deep state science fiction.

What's more likely, a strain of SARS emerged that swept over the world or the government's of the world got together with pharmaceutical companies and planned the whole thing?

That's got to the most idiotic theory of all theories. If someone made a movie with that as the plot it would be a comedy from how dumb the premise is.
Well this is great. You got your mind all pantie twisted tonight. Well that's good coz when dems talk and say shit then do the opposite it used to happen to me a few years back. Now I hear it and know we're phucked which is true.

4 f*cking 25 for gas in Indy today.

Sotu all I heard was how much Joe cares about the American people and gas jumps 60 cents in one f*cking week.

You know the black dudes that work for me just figured out after years of listening to dems that they are getting f*cked and quit voting for them when Trump finally did something for black people with jobs instead of welfare.

When are you dipwads gonna get it. We all told ya this would happen but no Trumps a whatever. The msm raked ya over the coals.

Yea covid the .05 percent killer of the planet. The vax, the powerful solution. Wtf.

What's this thread about? Vaccinating kids coz the government says so and a guy disagrees. F*ck this administration. You a think they had chain linked fences when Joe took office coz of the 6th??? Hahaha. It was because they f*cked up not ushering Hilary in and now had to undo the good Trump did. So they stuck the only thing they could manipulate due to deteriorating health, corruption up to his neck that they can hang over him, and a dumbass running mate. The middle class is doomed at this pace. Rumors of China going to war exist. Rumors that putin won't stop at Ukraine. Meanwhile shit goes down the drain here while we stand by and do nothing??? This is not where I grew up.

The vaccine??? I walked across the parking lot the other day and thought thank God I never fell for that shit. Look at how many did. Kids don't need this one. It's bogus, unproven, and propaganda.
 
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Wait what?

For that to be an actual choice would mean that covid was a 'choice' that was controlled.

That's some deep state science fiction.

What's more likely, a strain of SARS emerged that swept over the world or the government's of the world got together with pharmaceutical companies and planned the whole thing?

That's got to the most idiotic theory of all theories. If someone made a movie with that as the plot it would be a comedy from how dumb the premise is.
Here's a theory. A wet cracker, is just filler for soup, Tommy.
That's about all I could understand from your point here.
 
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Well this is great. You got your mind all pantie twisted tonight. Well that's good coz when dems talk and say shit then do the opposite it used to happen to me a few years back. Now I hear it and know we're phucked which is true.

4 f*cking 25 for gas in Indy today.

Sotu all I heard was how much Joe cares about the American people and gas jumps 60 cents in one f*cking week.

You know the black dudes that work for me just figured out after years of listening to dems that they are getting f*cked and quit voting for them when Trump finally did something for black people with jobs instead of welfare.

When are you dipwads gonna get it. We all told ya this would happen but no Trumps a whatever. The msm raked ya over the coals.

Yea covid the .05 percent killer of the planet. The vax, the powerful solution. Wtf.

What's this thread about? Vaccinating kids coz the government says so and a guy disagrees. F*ck this administration. You a think they had chain linked fences when Joe took office coz of the 6th??? Hahaha. It was because they f*cked up not ushering Hilary in and now had to undo the good Trump did. So they stuck the only thing they could manipulate due to deteriorating health, corruption up to his neck that they can hang over him, and a dumbass running mate. The middle class is doomed at this pace. Rumors of China going to war exist. Rumors that putin won't stop at Ukraine. Meanwhile shit goes down the drain here while we stand by and do nothing??? This is not where I grew up.

The vaccine??? I walked across the parking lot the other day and thought thank God I never fell for that shit. Look at how many did. Kids don't need this one. It's bogus, unproven, and propaganda.
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Well this is great. You got your mind all pantie twisted tonight. Well that's good coz when dems talk and say shit then do the opposite it used to happen to me a few years back. Now I hear it and know we're phucked which is true.

4 f*cking 25 for gas in Indy today.

Sotu all I heard was how much Joe cares about the American people and gas jumps 60 cents in one f*cking week.

You know the black dudes that work for me just figured out after years of listening to dems that they are getting f*cked and quit voting for them when Trump finally did something for black people with jobs instead of welfare.

When are you dipwads gonna get it. We all told ya this would happen but no Trumps a whatever. The msm raked ya over the coals.

Yea covid the .05 percent killer of the planet. The vax, the powerful solution. Wtf.

What's this thread about? Vaccinating kids coz the government says so and a guy disagrees. F*ck this administration. You a think they had chain linked fences when Joe took office coz of the 6th??? Hahaha. It was because they f*cked up not ushering Hilary in and now had to undo the good Trump did. So they stuck the only thing they could manipulate due to deteriorating health, corruption up to his neck that they can hang over him, and a dumbass running mate. The middle class is doomed at this pace. Rumors of China going to war exist. Rumors that putin won't stop at Ukraine. Meanwhile shit goes down the drain here while we stand by and do nothing??? This is not where I grew up.

The vaccine??? I walked across the parking lot the other day and thought thank God I never fell for that shit. Look at how many did. Kids don't need this one. It's bogus, unproven, and propaganda.
Nice meltdown.

I enjoyed you playing all the hits even though it had nothing to do with your original conspiracy post that covid was orchestrated by 'the deep state's simply to make big pharma rich.

Again nice job talking gas prices, racial relations and black unemployment then back for some anti vaccine rant along with some Covid denial.

Why didn't you talk about immigration? CRT? Wokism? Single Sex Marriages?

Lastly do you really not know why gas prices skyrocketed last week?
 
Well this is great. You got your mind all pantie twisted tonight. Well that's good coz when dems talk and say shit then do the opposite it used to happen to me a few years back. Now I hear it and know we're phucked which is true.

4 f*cking 25 for gas in Indy today.

Sotu all I heard was how much Joe cares about the American people and gas jumps 60 cents in one f*cking week.

You know the black dudes that work for me just figured out after years of listening to dems that they are getting f*cked and quit voting for them when Trump finally did something for black people with jobs instead of welfare.

When are you dipwads gonna get it. We all told ya this would happen but no Trumps a whatever. The msm raked ya over the coals.

Yea covid the .05 percent killer of the planet. The vax, the powerful solution. Wtf.

What's this thread about? Vaccinating kids coz the government says so and a guy disagrees. F*ck this administration. You a think they had chain linked fences when Joe took office coz of the 6th??? Hahaha. It was because they f*cked up not ushering Hilary in and now had to undo the good Trump did. So they stuck the only thing they could manipulate due to deteriorating health, corruption up to his neck that they can hang over him, and a dumbass running mate. The middle class is doomed at this pace. Rumors of China going to war exist. Rumors that putin won't stop at Ukraine. Meanwhile shit goes down the drain here while we stand by and do nothing??? This is not where I grew up.

The vaccine??? I walked across the parking lot the other day and thought thank God I never fell for that shit. Look at how many did. Kids don't need this one. It's bogus, unproven, and propaganda.
You took your crazy pill this morning, didn’t you?
 
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Nice meltdown.

I enjoyed you playing all the hits even though it had nothing to do with your original conspiracy post that covid was orchestrated by 'the deep state's simply to make big pharma rich.

Again nice job talking gas prices, racial relations and black unemployment then back for some anti vaccine rant along with some Covid denial.

Why didn't you talk about immigration? CRT? Wokism? Single Sex Marriages?

Lastly do you really not know why gas prices skyrocketed last week?
Another dem defender. Your either lost or depend on government assistance. You defend this and you are not worth talking too. And as far as gas prices go it's because we are not energy independent anymore plain and simple. Don't try and spin it.
 
Another dem defender. Your either lost or depend on government assistance. You defend this and you are not worth talking too. And as far as gas prices go it's because we are not energy independent anymore plain and simple. Don't try and spin it.
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Well this is great. You got your mind all pantie twisted tonight. Well that's good coz when dems talk and say shit then do the opposite it used to happen to me a few years back. Now I hear it and know we're phucked which is true.

4 f*cking 25 for gas in Indy today.

Sotu all I heard was how much Joe cares about the American people and gas jumps 60 cents in one f*cking week.

You know the black dudes that work for me just figured out after years of listening to dems that they are getting f*cked and quit voting for them when Trump finally did something for black people with jobs instead of welfare.

When are you dipwads gonna get it. We all told ya this would happen but no Trumps a whatever. The msm raked ya over the coals.

Yea covid the .05 percent killer of the planet. The vax, the powerful solution. Wtf.

What's this thread about? Vaccinating kids coz the government says so and a guy disagrees. F*ck this administration. You a think they had chain linked fences when Joe took office coz of the 6th??? Hahaha. It was because they f*cked up not ushering Hilary in and now had to undo the good Trump did. So they stuck the only thing they could manipulate due to deteriorating health, corruption up to his neck that they can hang over him, and a dumbass running mate. The middle class is doomed at this pace. Rumors of China going to war exist. Rumors that putin won't stop at Ukraine. Meanwhile shit goes down the drain here while we stand by and do nothing??? This is not where I grew up.

The vaccine??? I walked across the parking lot the other day and thought thank God I never fell for that shit. Look at how many did. Kids don't need this one. It's bogus, unproven, and propaganda.
We finally get to the root of your problem. “This is not where I grew up.” That’s true. And that’s what so many Trumoers are angry about. They don’t like the world changing. It will continue to do so, no matter how much you scream and cry about it. And power will continue to shift away from those who always used to be in control 50 years ago. Better get used to it.
 
We finally get to the root of your problem. “This is not where I grew up.” That’s true. And that’s what so many Trumoers are angry about. They don’t like the world changing. It will continue to do so, no matter how much you scream and cry about it. And power will continue to shift away from those who always used to be in control 50 years ago. Better get used to it.
If this entire thing doesn't read like Mein Kampft. I don't know what does.

These our our teachers people !! ! Snuff out the candle we lit. We will do better!
 
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Another dem defender. Your either lost or depend on government assistance. You defend this and you are not worth talking too. And as far as gas prices go it's because we are not energy independent anymore plain and simple. Don't try and spin it.
Being 'energy independent' doesn't mean what you think it does.

I believe you are talking about simple us production vs us consumption.

As far as gas independence, it has to be refined and we've never been able to do that on the scale needed here so, again as far as the price of gas, we've never been 'energy independent'.

What happened with oil was the fracking boom in the 00's. We started producing a sizeable amount more and it caught up to our consumption rates in 2019. The gap started closing under Obama.

Here's a pretty graph of consumption gaps over the years.

Per your definition, we're still basically energy independent.

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We finally get to the root of your problem. “This is not where I grew up.” That’s true. And that’s what so many Trumoers are angry about. They don’t like the world changing. It will continue to do so, no matter how much you scream and cry about it. And power will continue to shift away from those who always used to be in control 50 years ago. Better get used to it.
Who was in control zeke? And better get used to what, being told HOW to think and not to think for myself?

I know you have a problem with this...too bad

 
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