we can lose @ Purdue by 25-30.... And if only that 3 ptr @ OSU had rolled in.... Fire this guy Monday morning.
This is great! Thank you! Now if only..
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Won’t happen until after the BTT.
But it’s a foregone conclusion that Dolson will pull the trigger. It’s an inevitability.
It is known.
I don't get the reasoning for waiting. Do it now. Start the coaching search immediately and have your top candidates lined up by season end. Let Calbert/Jordan coach the remainder of the season. The team would still stink but fans would rally around those guys a little. Woodson has lost everyone.
Oh, Dolson would be derelict in his duties if the process was not already through a lot of the preliminary steps. The coach in his sights is presently leading his team and making his case.
We're in the Negotiating a Face Saving "I'll be retiring at the end of the season" Phase. The firing phase comes after the 2 sides can't agree on terms or Woody refuses.
After the Wisconsin loss, Dolson will meet with Whitten. He will ask for her backing. Before the Michigan game, they will agree to try and force Woodson to 'retire' affective at the end of the season with full buyout. If not, fire him at the end of the season, trying to avoid the full buyout.
Hell with face saving. Do it now. This was a coaching(?) shitshow.
Dolson has already gone to Whitten. The buyout was renegotiated when they gave him the pay bump.
Woody’s buyout is the rest of his contract regardless of when he is fired. We owe him $4.2M this season plus $8.4M for the last two years on his deal.
He will need to recognize it, and I expect he will. The man was a hell of a winner as an athlete. But that time is coming very soon. Not next year. I'm guessing he has some lingering thoughts that he might get one more crack at it, but as the team continues to lose games, he will get it and probably do the right thing.
Sorry, I wasn't very clear. That's on me. He's done. They are going to give him the opportunity to save face by announcing he will retire. If he digs in his heels, they will fire him by the end of February. This won't happen as fast as some people like, but he won't be on the sidelines next year.
I get your point. We pay it now, or we pay it later. Actually the sooner the better because then they can pay it in yearly $1M chunks as condition of the extension.
You wouldn't be talking about timing of a release at the same time you were extending him.
After two years of being “okay” and winning one tourney game, the $1M raise and additional $4.2M of buyout was premature and not needed at all. Was he going to leave? Things looked okay, but there was a lot of uncertainty going into Year Three post-TJD and needing to land some top recruits. Should have waited another year to see if there was performance that justified more money. There obviously wasn’t to say the least.
This 100%. I mean, who was going to poach him away? lmao. x._______ IU athletics
It's even more annoying with the AD recently cutting some people to help cover the revenue share. I'd guess that saved maybe $1.5-2M per year. Woody's raise gave him $4M more salary over the life of his contract and IIRC $4.2M more buyout, so we threw away $8M on a terrible coach when we really didn't need to. Oh well.
I get what you're saying. I don't know that (much of) Woody 's salary comes from the same source as the Athletic Department employees. His "Base Salary" is $550,000. The rest is from "outside marketing and promotional" sources. Still a bad look though, I agree.
I've been saying all season, IMHO, it looks like things were structured in a manner that gave him all the financial resources he thought he needed. The buyout restructuring tells me that he gets $1 mil per year if/when he fails.
Just for discussions sake, I believe the base salary and outside marketing and promotional sources are both coming from the athletic dept, it's just an internal classification thing that impacts how benefits, insurance, and other obligations are structured. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is the case. But yea, the buyout restructuring helps the annual cash flow as IU has to navigate the $22M rev share cost starting this year.
Honestly I'm just irritated and screaming into the void -- that's what message boards are for? Woody's raise technically wasn't big amount in the scheme of things like Allen's buyout, the FB staff raises (though they should have a positive ROI), etc.
With all the changes in college sports and the drama with our bball coach that I'm guessing is highly political, being the AD has to be pretty difficult. Thank goodness FB is doing well.
Why the "end of February?" Seems like you either make the change, or you wait it out until the end of season. What's the point of waiting another month and then making a move?
You think that's bad. See how much they paid Tom Allen to go away.
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