The UN condemns the Russian invasion of Ukraine today

[BradStevens]

You have called yourself a conservative of some sort multiple times, genius.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Just search for the term conservative posted by him. Be warned, you have to wade through his effusive praise for Liz Cheney as a conservative and multiple posts about his various conservative family members though.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Yep, what the United Nations says, or does, isn't of much consequence in our country with U.N. approval ratings being lower here than in most countries.

When it was formed the U.S. Senate approved of its formation by a 89-2 vote. Given a similar vote today, it probably would barely pass.

Hopes for the U.N. and world peace were high right after the end of WWll. Since then we have had the Cold War, the wars against terrorism, and on going tensions with China, Iran, and North Korea. The invasion of Ukraine by Russia finds us divided on just who to blame.

The rest of the world must look at us and wonder what we will do next. Our rivals have to be pleased.

51 nations started tge UN. Now the membership is 193. Many of the additional members are nations that can’t even govern themselves and regularly deny natural rights. .

 

[hookyIU1990]

51 nations started tge UN. Now the membership is 193. Many of the additional members are nations that can’t even govern themselves and regularly deny natural rights. .

What do you expect from an organization that has a human rights council with China, DR of Congo and S Africa as current members?

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

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Check out this short video. Macron calls out Trump's lie that Europe "loaned" the money to Ukraine, Trump listens with clownish facial expressions and gestures, and Trump then repeats the lie.

Also, Macron - - who obviously has a pair of balls - - doesn't hesitate to call Putin the aggressor. Trump, meanwhile, is afraid to call Putin a dictator.

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If Macron if flaunting'balls' they are his 'wifes'...

 

[CO. Hoosier]

What do you expect from an organization that has a human rights council with China, DR of Congo and S Africa as current members?

Nothing. I don’t expect anything from it.

That said, in some areas I think the UN has done some good work. The World Food Programme, for example. And individuals, like Kofi Annan were good people.


But by and large the UN is a scandal-ridden waste of time and money.

 

[BradStevens]

Just search for the term conservative posted by him. Be warned, you have to wade through his effusive praise for Liz Cheney as a conservative and multiple posts about his various conservative family members though.

I think you already nailed it pretty well. No reason to gild the lily.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

I think you already nailed it pretty well. No reason to gild the lily.

More like chocolate coating a terd.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

Yeah

spreading lies must be your forte.

 

[mcmurtry66]

spreading lies must be your forte.

No way can two people be that stupid in the exact same fashion

 

[Marvin the Martian]

We aren’t conceding anything. The U. N. resolution is a total waste of time. It’s a nothingburger. That’s why we should have abstained. By voting no, we give the resolution a kind of legitimacy it doesn’t have.

So if it is a total nothingburger, we didn't gain anything by voting the way we did? The argument exists that voting against Russia would harm negotiations, if no one at all cares, negotiations couldn't be harmed.

 

[IUINSB]

I just wish you losers would make up what passes for a mind...


One day, communist
Next day, Nazi
Then Pro -Russia
Then, racist
And anti-semite....

Do you realize how difficult this makes wardrobe selection?

All of the above, depending on what your idol is spewing.

 

[IUINSB]

Some of us refuse to accept the propaganda, and can think for ourselves
The control of two provinces in eastern Ukraine are in no way, shape, form or fashion vital to the national interest of the citizens of the United States.

Get used to it. The parasites in Europe are next.

Quite a bit of the Ukraine's rare earth minerals that President Trump desires are located in those two provinces.

 

[twenty02]

We aren’t conceding anything. The U. N. resolution is a total waste of time. It’s a nothingburger. That’s why we should have abstained. By voting no, we give the resolution a kind of legitimacy it doesn’t have.

Always good to be voting alongside North Korea, Belarus and Sudan. Is this part of MAGA? Do you feel great?

 

[twenty02]

You guys really make mountains out of mole hills. Zelenskyy was last elected in 2019. They’ve suspended elections in war time. Fine that’s their call. But it’s not ideal and is dictator-like.

As far as a worthless UN resolution, I couldn’t care less if voting No helps bring peace. Maybe it does maybe it doesn’t. But you guys should check the mainstream media - even they’re not fainting on their couches like you guys all are.

My guy Saagar says it best.

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Look, do I like our name in red along those other nations? No. But is this UN resolution completely worthless? Yes. Again, reinforce your fainting couch. It’s getting a lot of usage.

Then abstain from voting.

Pretty simple. Instead they put Israel in a chokehold to vote for something they don't believe.

Becoming very clear that NATO is likely dead and the post 1945 defense posture is over. I believe that the Trump admin would prefer to ally with Russia long term, or at very least become neutral with regard to Russia v Western Europe. These are things that have been pretty obvious for a long while.

Also need to understand the major underlying shift that's occurring in US foreign policy. Basically since JFK, US foreign policy has been centered around promoting democracy around the world. I think that's over. Closing USAID was just step 1, but that's only a small piece. I expect that we'll see a major retrenchment in all US power in the middle east and European sphere and all resources put into the Pacific.

Centcom and Eucom should expect major cuts. Space Force and Pacom big increases