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The next coach.

If the powers-that-be wanted IU to be a basketball powerhouse, then it would be. That's why it's time to face reality and move on. IU will never be what we want it to be, and what it should be, so it's time to find another school to root for.

See ya. UK likes bandwagoners and their acceptance rate is 100%. Good luck
 
Knight wanted obedience. Discipline leads to obedience. If you're looking for obedience, then it's best to find people who lack the balls to be disobedient.
He certainly wanted their respect, but he wasn't always my way or the highway if you could prove him wrong and did respect players opinions when they were correct. Remember when Mike Lewis went head to head with him in that sideline rant. He knew Lewis was right, and there were no consequences.
 
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My worry is with Glass retiring, there won't be anyone to fire Miller once he misses the tourney yet again. We'll be stuck with him by default for another year. Unless the new AD comes in and is determined to make his/her mark right away.
Glass wouldn't fire him and neither would the new AD. I think that he'll do well enough this year that we wouldn't want him fire but even if he doesn't do as well as I think he will NOT be fired. IU would owe 100% of his remaining contract at over 3.5 million a year. No university would fire him and IU won't either. It will make the next coach cost whatever his salary is PLUS 3.5 million effectively. Those are serious handcuffs on firing him and hiring a new coach and they're not going to do it. Maybe after next year if the rest of this year and all of next year suck. Again I don't think it will but then the buyout goes down to 50% I think so if I'm wrong and next year sucks they might pull that trigger. Won't happen before that.
 
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Hardly just a mid major coach.

Sure, just point to the Power Five school he had consistent success and/or dominated?

Was it Iowa, where in eight seasons he compiled a 61-67 conference record and never won a conference title?

Was it UCLA where he was fired halfway through his 6th season for obviously consistently worse basketball? Where he also never won a conference title?
 
Sure, just point to the Power Five school he had consistent success and/or dominated?

Was it Iowa, where in eight seasons he compiled a 61-67 conference record and never won a conference title?

Was it UCLA where he was fired halfway through his 6th season for obviously consistently worse basketball? Where he also never won a conference title?
UCLA go check out his record there.
 
Glass wouldn't fire him and neither would the new AD. I think that he'll do well enough this year that we wouldn't want him fire but even if he doesn't do as well as I think he will NOT be fired. IU would owe 100% of his remaining contract at over 3.5 million a year. No university would fire him and IU won't either. It will make the next coach cost whatever his salary is PLUS 3.5 million effectively. Those are serious handcuffs on firing him and hiring a new coach and they're not going to do it. Maybe after next year if the rest of this year and all of next year suck. Again I don't think it will but then the buyout goes down to 50% I think so if I'm wrong and next year sucks they might pull that trigger. Won't happen before that.
Not sure this is accurate. Most contracts have a duty to mitigate whereby he has to actively seek employment and what’s owed is offset by future earnings. This team is every bit as bad as last year and his first year. Padding the schedule makes things illusory. If he doesn’t turn things around he should be canned at the end of the year. Break the bank on beard or some other legit coach or try a new guy at $2 mil not $3.5 with an $800k recruiting budget. Miller is bad math. Assembly hall will be half empty next year if we miss the tourney again. There aren’t five 5 stars on their way to get anyone excited. Next year will be more of the same with an added new excuse “we’re young.”
 
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Sure, just point to the Power Five school he had consistent success and/or dominated?

Was it Iowa, where in eight seasons he compiled a 61-67 conference record and never won a conference title?

Was it UCLA where he was fired halfway through his 6th season for obviously consistently worse basketball? Where he also never won a conference title?
3 Sweet Sixteens in 5 years at UCLA...…….When will the midget get us there.
 
3 Sweet Sixteens in 5 years at UCLA...…….When will the midget get us there.

You are so small. I’m off the Archie bandwagon. I’m not on the Alford bandwagon. I never have been, I never will be. How many times do you need to reply to the same post? You couldn’t think of both sentences for one post. I’ve seen Alford’s UCLA record. He was fired because his teams were getting worse. Again, show me the Power Five school where he consistently dominated. Go look up the word “dominate” and its conjugated forms. Well, look up the word “conjugate” first, then come back with your answer.
 
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His 3rd year at UCLA, he was 6-12 in conference. You okay with that?

The "midget"? Boy, CAM has really gotten in your head. Of course, there is plenty of room in there.
About what Archies record will be this year in conference you ok with that. 6-14 or 7-13 take your pick.
 
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No. It needs to be a great coach
Of the group, I'd take Fife. He can recruit Indiana. He has had head coaching experience. Was a great defensive player; and has been an assistant for about 5 years in a top tier college program. Alford has had his chance(s) to show what he can do. The others strike me as better suited for the NBA.
 
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Better be one or these names.

1. Alford
2. Fife
3. Woodson
4. Wittman

It is time to go back to our roots.

Bruce Pearl. The Knight coaching tree is terrible. We don’t need a repeat of Chris Mullin at St. John’s or Clyde Drexler at Houston.
 
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Bruce Pearl. The IU coaching tree is terrible. We don’t need a repeat of Chris Mullin at St. John’s or Clyde Drexler at Houston.
Love Bruce pearl but fear he’s too much of a risk to get us jammed up in a scandal.
 
Of the group, I'd take Fife. He can recruit Indiana. He has had head coaching experience. Was a great defensive player; and has been an assistant for about 5 years in a top tier college program. Alford has had his chance(s) to show what he can do. The others strike me as better suited for the NBA.

“He can recruit Indiana”. You know this how? Because he played here? Because he coached IPFW?

“He has had head coaching experience”. Yes, six years at IPFW with a career .450ish win %. You could honestly argue his teams got “better” over his six seasons but that’s going from 10 wins to 18.

And yes, you’re correct he’s been an assistant to Izzo for a few years now.

All that said and Dane is one of my all-time favorite IU players. Tougher than a $2 steak.
 
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Sure, just point to the Power Five school he had consistent success and/or dominated?

Was it Iowa, where in eight seasons he compiled a 61-67 conference record and never won a conference title?

Was it UCLA where he was fired halfway through his 6th season for obviously consistently worse basketball? Where he also never won a conference title?

Yeah, but he’s from Indiana!
 
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The problem is that the administration has to subscribe to same. I doubt pearl and mcrobbie would be on the same page in that regard
Yep and why football schools like auburn, baylor, and lsu have far better teams than iu.
 
GUYS!GUYS!GUYS! You're missing the #1, and most important, reason to hire Dane Fife as the next coach, HOT WIFE! LOL! I went to high school with Blair and she was a pretty good basketball player in her own right.
 
GUYS!GUYS!GUYS! You're missing the #1, and most important, reason to hire Dane Fife as the next coach, HOT WIFE! LOL! I went to high school with Blair and she was a pretty good basketball player in her own right.
Our current coach has a hot wife and he's terrible.
 
“He can recruit Indiana”. You know this how? Because he played here? Because he coached IPFW?

“He has had head coaching experience”. Yes, six years at IPFW with a career .450ish win %. You could honestly argue his teams got “better” over his six seasons but that’s going from 10 wins to 18.

And yes, you’re correct he’s been an assistant to Izzo for a few years now.

All that said and Dane is one of my all-time favorite IU players. Tougher than a $2 steak.
Of that group, he is the one I would pick. As far as recruiting Indiana, yes, I do think he would do well, having coached at a college in Indiana, he has to know many Indiana high school coaches. Also, MSU seems do extremely well at getting players they want from Indiana. I expect he has played a role in getting them. The fact that he is a highly regarded former IU ball player would also help. He's not the "if you could hire anybody you want pick" but he's solid.
 
Archie doesn't deserve another year. Nothing has improved in three seasons. No defense, a stagnant offense, and no in game adjustments. Archie is in over his head. I don't think another 1-3 years will help. It's time to cut ties. This is of course IU loses tonight, and is below .500 in league play. Each season I have cared a little less the last 5-6 seasons.
Agreed, he seems like "the deer in the headlights" Ron White speaks of when he explains how to bag a deer. "Put headlights on a bullet and slow it down to 55 mph."
 
Get an established, winning coach who has won at the high major level. There is a reason IU’s best coach since Knight was Kelvin Sampson, who had tremendous success at Oklahoma.
 
Brad Stevens
Beard
Lavalle Jordan
Marshall
Few
Mack
Fife
Alford
Randy Wittman
Mike Woodson
Billy Donovan
Scott Skiles
Keith Smart
 
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He certainly wanted their respect, but he wasn't always my way or the highway if you could prove him wrong and did respect players opinions when they were correct. Remember when Mike Lewis went head to head with him in that sideline rant. He knew Lewis was right, and there were no consequences.
Debtslave’s comment was ignorant. I led a ship of nearly 400 Sailors and the testosterone level was plenty high. ;) The idea that leaders want obedient followers lacking balls only exists in the minds of people that have never been leaders.
 
If the powers-that-be wanted IU to be a basketball powerhouse, then it would be. That's why it's time to face reality and move on. IU will never be what we want it to be, and what it should be, so it's time to find another school to root for.
It scares me that you may be right.
 
Not sure this is accurate. Most contracts have a duty to mitigate whereby he has to actively seek employment and what’s owed is offset by future earnings. This team is every bit as bad as last year and his first year. Padding the schedule makes things illusory. If he doesn’t turn things around he should be canned at the end of the year. Break the bank on beard or some other legit coach or try a new guy at $2 mil not $3.5 with an $800k recruiting budget. Miller is bad math. Assembly hall will be half empty next year if we miss the tourney again. There aren’t five 5 stars on their way to get anyone excited. Next year will be more of the same with an added new excuse “we’re young.”
It's accurate according to everything I've read. There is no chance IU is going to fire Archie after this year and almost no chance they'd fire him after next year. I'm still feeling good about the future of IU under Archie, but it must be miserable for you guys that are sure that he's going to fail.
 
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