The FBI is arresting judges now.
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You're gonna forget to change IDs while arguing with yourself and let the cat out of the bag.
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You've likely committed a felony and don't know it.
Nice yabbut. Do you defend all felons with yabbuts or just your orange idol?
This doesn't say what you think it does.I will be sure to log out of my hookyiu1990 account when I make dumb posts
I'm guessing your stupid ass has never known anyone convicted felon. They aren't bad people because they have a felony conviction.
I'm guessing you've done more feloniius, disgusting shit than my weed possessing uncle.
I will be sure to log out of my hookyiu1990 account when I make dumb posts
You have no clue about me so how about laying off the baseless attacks.
And Trump has likely done more disgusting shit than anyone you know but still idiots voted him into office
What is the basis for saying it’s “too much”. To the extent the U.S. has more criminals it makes sense we would need more prison space.
We can debate the reasons for having more criminals and possible solutions. But surely the solution is not leaving criminals on the street.
In the case of this judge. I think disbarment and some kind of diversion is probably warranted but broadly speaking violent criminals should go to jail.
President did not send anyone to prison. The guy who was a Salvadoran citizen living in the US was sent back home and was jailed by the El Salvador.
So we are not paying them for him?
So his claims of fear of returning were well based? If not, what crime has El Salvador convicted him of?
I am sure it is just an unfortunate coincidence that the people being deported are going directly to prison without trial. I wonder if Trump met with Bukele at the White House to discuss adopting an El Salvadoran baby??
Trump’s deportations may face challenge as prison punishment without a trial
Trump's deportations may face challenge as prison punishment without a trial
Under U.S. law, noncitizens may be detained and deported, but they can't be punished and imprisoned without a trial.
www.latimes.com
Takeaways from Trump’s move to send Venezuelan migrants in the US to a prison in El Salvador
Takeaways from Trump's move to send Venezuelan migrants in the US to a prison in El Salvador
President Donald Trump has invoked a rarely used 1798 law that gives a president immense powers to arrest and deport noncitizens in a time of war.
apnews.com
Wonder where Palm would draw the line
Trump says he would ‘love’ to send violent American citizens to foreign prisons
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It’s not really our business is the answer.
Bukele is authoritarian to an extent that we would never tolerate in America. But he also turned the most violent country in the world into a place that is livable. I’m not saying the ends justify means but he is tilting El Salvador towards the states and I’m not sure why we would rebuff him given all the other allies we get in bed with.
The catch is that fear for persecution is required for amnesty. If he had a legitimate threat of persecution, and jailed without a trial or charges seems like a legitimate threat, than he was eligible for amnesty. Which isn't quite what the court ruled, but is pretty close since they blocked returning him to El Salvador. So his imprisonment without a crime proves the court was correct, he had a legitimate fear.
His threat is not legitimate and it never was. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have gotten his day in court but we’re talking about a huckster.
The deportation order with the El Salvador exclusion was made almost 15 years ago -- and he specifically cited gang violence. The level of gang violence there has subsided quite a bit. As such, it seems plausible, if not likely, that a fresh hearing would rescind that exclusion. Especially given that he was apprehended while consorting with MS-13 guys. As I saw somebody say recently, Salvadoran gangs are almost certainly more active in the US than they are in El Salvador these days.
That said, however a court would come down on that, he is 100% entitled to make this appeal.
In 2019, an immigration judge granted him withholding of removal status due to the danger he faced from gang violence if he returned to El Salvador.
It just SEEMS like it's been 15 years since 2019.
13 of those 15 years were 2020.In 2019, an immigration judge granted him withholding of removal status due to the danger he faced from gang violence if he returned to El Salvador.
It just SEEMS like it's been 15 years since 2019.
I was referring to the original one.In 2019, an immigration judge granted him withholding of removal status due to the danger he faced from gang violence if he returned to El Salvador.
It just SEEMS like it's been 15 years since 2019.
He originally came here as a teenager in 2011, and indeed cited gang violence at the time. But it wasn't until 2019 that a judge affirmed it to be true.
Are judges also not corrupt? I want to see if it moves from actual suspected illegality and tampering to broad-based politically motivated targeting. If it isn’t the latter, should we be concerned?
I’m sure there is a fine line and it may have been crossed, but helping people circumvent laws bc you don’t believe in them doesn’t seem right either, no matter what robe you sport.
Yes, that's the main reason this story stuck out to me to begin with. Usually, when you hear about a judge getting arrested, it will be at the end of a long corruption investigation headed by some sort of special task force. It's a big deal. For interfering in the heat of the moment in an enforcement action like this, I think crazed is correct that what you'd most expect is for the feds to get with the judge's people, and say, hey, we think this was a crime, we are going to pursue it, let's schedule a time for her to come down and get processed. It's simply a matter of trying to avoid the appearance of overkill in a political context.
If the affidavit linked above accurately describes what happened, then the prosecution itself is probably justified, and accusations of political targeting can sort of be brushed aside. But making a show of it, of Patel apparently publicizing her "perp walk," that might be political targeting even if the charge itself is justified. That's why you tread lightly on these things. Not to let the judge get away with it, but just to make sure the appearance of propriety is maintained.
We sent him to his home country I don't know what crimes he committed there. I don't know what crimes anyone that is in El Salvadoran prison committed.
We sent him to the country of his birth, against the orders of an immigration judge who had ruled that his life would be in danger if he was sent there.
What crimes did he commit there, before fleeing gang violence against his family at age 16? None.
For the majority of the >230 sent there recently, it would appear to be the crime of having tattoos. ~5% had criminal records in the USA.
Let's round up the tattooed people. And the autistic people. And the political protesters. And the scientists. Trump is all for a good ideological / ethnic cleansing. You must be proud.
Less than 5 percent isn’t helping you. It should be zero. Tolerance for those circumventing proper entry should be zero criminals
Our nonconfined criminal docket is disgusting
Is this helping the situation? Seems like we should be going the other way, no? Get people through faster would be better, I'd imagine.
I don’t think that’s the way. First we needed to not let ten million cross. Now with a docket that large there needs to be a system to screen without judges. And maybe there is but I find it hard to believe with that backlog.
If you’re from country X you don’t get to claim asylum …. Whatever.
Like soc sec disability. You have to make it a few rounds before you get to see a judge. Weeds people out
One single person committing a crime after crossing is intolerable. One. They don’t get compared to citizens
I agree that our system sucks, but what is anybody doing to change it?
Getting rid of immigration judges doesn't seem like a move in the right direction.
Have to amend some statutes administrative procedures etc. our congress is complete dogshit. Most of these people should have never gotten in and should be able to be vetted without a judge
