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The 65 Billion we sent to Ukraine

Do you know any politicians who have talked about this, D or R? It would be a great conversation to have.

Since the money was already sent, let's count that as part of our military expenditures and take $65 billion out of defense costs and do this.
 
Should have been spent on Mental hospitals for the Homeless! If we had hospitals that could help the mentally ill and homeless, maybe the crime rate would drop in the big Cities.
start a go fund me page, I think we could raise the money to get you some help
 
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Can't even remember the last mass-shooter with a diagnosed mental condition. Maybe Virginia Tech? Drawing a complete blank on homeless mass shooters.
 
This thread is not about mass- shooter’s or President Trump. It’s about all the homeless people the country has! Including Veterans.
The Dems are taking care of them in their cities . Letting them use overpasses and streets to live on and under
 
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Should have been spent on Mental hospitals for the Homeless! If we had hospitals that could help the mentally ill and homeless, maybe the crime rate would drop in the big Cities.
A lot of money for a staged war.
 
This thread is not about mass- shooter’s or President Trump. It’s about all the homeless people the country has! Including Veterans.
My bad. Homelessness is a real problem, I agree. Not sure there's any good solution.
 
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Should have been spent on Mental hospitals for the Homeless! If we had hospitals that could help the mentally ill and homeless, maybe the crime rate would drop in the big Cities.

Reinstitutionalization is necessary, but has nothing to do with funding Ukraine’s defenses. Plenty of other places to cut fat.
 
we can and need to do something about the mentally ill problem, but that has nothing to do with Ukraine, so why even conflate the 2, other than to troll.

ending carried interest, taxing high speed trades, going back to auditing a reasonable percent of high income earners, should make a huge dent in the problem.

Pubs and Wall St Dems would rather have the mentally ill problem though, than tax rich people, hedge fund managers, and hi speed trading. (and high speed trading should be taxed out of existence anyway, since it's just stealing from everyone else who doesn't have that capability).
 
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we can and need to do something about the mentally ill problem, but that has nothing to do with Ukraine, so why even conflate the 2, other than to troll.

ending carried interest, taxing high speed trades, going back to auditing a reasonable percent of high income earners, should make a huge dent in the problem.

Pubs and Wall St Dems would rather have the mentally ill problem though, than tax rich people, hedge fund managers, and hi speed trading. (and high speed trading should be taxed out of existence anyway, since it's just stealing from everyone else who doesn't have that capability).
The 65 billion of tax payer money has every thing to do with the homeless. That money is gone and Ukraine will end up in Russian control! The 65 billion should have been spent here! Maybe in Hazard Kentucky.
 
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The 65 billion of tax payer money has every thing to do with the homeless. That money is gone and Ukraine will end up in Russian control! The 65 billion should have been spent here! Maybe in Hazard Kentucky.
The money is never gone. They can just print more.
 
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we can and need to do something about the mentally ill problem, but that has nothing to do with Ukraine, so why even conflate the 2, other than to troll.

ending carried interest, taxing high speed trades, going back to auditing a reasonable percent of high income earners, should make a huge dent in the problem.

Pubs and Wall St Dems would rather have the mentally ill problem though, than tax rich people, hedge fund managers, and hi speed trading. (and high speed trading should be taxed out of existence anyway, since it's just stealing from everyone else who doesn't have that capability).

Without looking it up, can you explain carried interest?
 
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Reinstitutionalization is necessary, but has nothing to do with funding Ukraine’s defenses. Plenty of other places to cut fat.
I find comparisons like this to be useful to highlight relative values and what we spend on them.
 
My point when I posted this thread, was that we should take care of our own problems first, before we stick our nose in some other Countries business.
 
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My point when I posted this thread, was that we should take care of our own problems first, before we stick our nose in some other Countries business.

Are you a supporter of putting homeless and others back into state-run institutions?
 
Are you a supporter of putting homeless and others back into state-run institutions?
It's a really complicated question, but if by homeless you mean severely mentally-ill people who are homeless, my answer is yes (assuming we spend enough money to ensure they are humanely treated).

I would also like to see a medium solution, whereby we create institutions that can care for people with problems that might not be as bad as the above, and that involve parental consent, guardians, etc. signing off on it for shorter periods. But that would also require a lot of societal work on removing the very real, very damaging stigma surrounding mental illness.
 
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Some states are looking to take action on there own since the feds gutted mental institutions in the 60s/70s then killed them off in the 80s.

Prop 27 in California looks to legalize online gambling via tribal casinos. The tribes have agreed to kick in "hundreds of Millions" per year for the homelessness and mental health crisis there.


I am not sure why it wouldn't pass?
 
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It's a really complicated question, but if by homeless you mean severely mentally-ill people who are homeless, my answer is yes (assuming we spend enough money to ensure they are humanely treated).

I would also like to see a medium solution, whereby we create institutions that can care for people with problems that might not be as bad as the above, and that involve parental consent, guardians, etc. signing off on it for shorter periods. But that would also require a lot of societal work on removing the very real, very damaging stigma surrounding mental illness.

The problem is a lot of those people don't want to be in a mental hospital.... they would rather live on the streets.

Are we going to commit them against their will?
 
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