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IRS website has been down most of the day... To ya know.... Make payments on tax day. Lol.

Wonder if they'll waive the interest.
I just use H&R Block, and it takes ten minutes. And to be honest, that's about 9 minutes too long. The vast majority of us could do our taxes just by importing our W-2's, verifying our address, and hitting "Finish." They still make us jump through way too many hoops.
 
I just use H&R Block, and it takes ten minutes. And to be honest, that's about 9 minutes too long. The vast majority of us could do our taxes just by importing our W-2's, verifying our address, and hitting "Finish." They still make us jump through way too many hoops.

Not so simple here... But that's not really the issue. Had no problems filing.. But I make payment due via my IRS account on the IRS website. And every time I've tried today I've gotten a system down message.

Been using it for years without problem.
 
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Idk. The women in my life always handled the taxes. Used to be by CPA mom, now my CPA wife. The two of them will probably rob me blind one day.

Probably.

I've gotta do it myself. CPA is way in my rear view and don't really use or need it. But still handle everything myself. Can't deal with having anyone else doing money related things including investment side. Wife gets a card and budget and she's good with never hearing about it

But yeah the IRS should be able to take payments on tax day. Kinda basic.
 
Idk. The women in my life always handled the taxes. Used to be by CPA mom, now my CPA wife. The two of them will probably rob me blind one day.

BTW everyone that's in the self employment world knows that the IRS is fkd beyond belief via DOGE and the chance of a complex audit is now next to zero. So cheat away, I guess. Tax revs might start looking really ugly coming later half of the year.
 
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BTW everyone that's in the self employment world knows that the IRS is fkd beyond belief via DOGE and the chance of a complex audit is now next to zero. So cheat away, I guess. Tax revs might start looking really ugly coming later half of the year.

A better solution is simplifying the tax code. Maybe this will serve as an impetus to finally do that.
 
A better solution is simplifying the tax code. Maybe this will serve as an impetus to finally do that.

That's not on the radar now.

2017 was the simplify 'reform'... Which did work for a lot of people with the large standard deduction increase. 90% now use and can skip over all the itemized stuff.

But there is still a lot of engineering in the code beyond that

However,that's not where the missing money is. That's in the small biz/self employment world. About $700b per year.
 
Probably.

I've gotta do it myself. CPA is way in my rear view and don't really use or need it. But still handle everything myself. Can't deal with having anyone else doing money related things including investment side. Wife gets a card and budget and she's good with never hearing about it

But yeah the IRS should be able to take payments on tax day. Kinda basic.
Same here. I don’t mind doing my taxes and with the current standard deduction, I don’t even need to itemize. Batch enter the random brokerage trades and it is pretty easy.
 
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Probably.

I've gotta do it myself. CPA is way in my rear view and don't really use or need it. But still handle everything myself. Can't deal with having anyone else doing money related things including investment side. Wife gets a card and budget and she's good with never hearing about it

But yeah the IRS should be able to take payments on tax day. Kinda basic.
Our cpas first name is that and middle name is fcking. That Fcking Adams is texting me. That Fcking Adams says…. That Fcking Adams needs
 
That's not on the radar now.

2017 was the simplify 'reform'... Which did work for a lot of people with the large standard deduction increase. 90% now use and can skip over all the itemized stuff.

But there is still a lot of engineering in the code beyond that

However,that's not where the missing money is. That's in the small biz/self employment world. About $700b per year.

I know. I’m saying that maybe a thinned out IRS could serve as the motivation Congress needs to finally address the elephant in the room.

It's a longshot, I know. Congress can barely pass a resolution to name a new Post Office these days...let alone address our big problems. But necessity is the mother of invention.
 
My wife does the taxes every year and files on April 14th just to specifically avoid the possibility of the system being down on tax day. This is the first year it would have potentially made a difference, so bully to her, I guess.
 
...doing my taxes and with the current standard deduction, I don’t even need to itemize.

Wouldn't it be nice if the only deduction we had was the standard deduction?

Steve Forbes was right. Just have a very simple formula for a deduction and tax all forms of income, however derived, at a single rate -- once and only once.

A side benefit of this is that eliminating the jungle of deductions and credits would make it easier for Congress to use rate adjustments to get to its revenue targets. The tax code as it is creates a game.
 
Wouldn't it be nice if the only deduction we had was the standard deduction?

Steve Forbes was right. Just have a very simple formula for a deduction and tax all forms of income, however derived, at a single rate -- once and only once.

A side benefit of this is that eliminating the jungle of deductions and credits would make it easier for Congress to use rate adjustments to get to its revenue targets. The tax code as it is creates a game.
And we could get closer to taxing all taxable income. Under that system, the you could just scan in your W-2, 1099s, etc and the IRS could run your return.
 
And we could get closer to taxing all taxable income. Under that system, the you could just scan in your W-2, 1099s, etc and the IRS could run your return.

Meh... None of that is the issue. Decent tax software easily does that already. W2s and 1099s go the IRS. If you don't report them they'll catch them via computer eventually.

Tax work, non compliance and complications come from areas that are way beyond that. Even things as basic as owning a rental property opens up a can of worms. Forget it once you get into operating a small business that's taxed at the individual level. Or a partnership.
 
Meh... None of that is the issue. Decent tax software easily does that already. W2s and 1099s go the IRS. If you don't report them they'll catch them via computer eventually.

Tax work, non compliance and complications come from areas that are way beyond that. Even things as basic as owning a rental property opens up a can of worms. Forget it once you get into operating a small business that's taxed at the individual level. Or a partnership.
Or multiple small somewhat related small businesses some with income some losses etc
 
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IRS website has been down most of the day... To ya know.... Make payments on tax day. Lol.

Wonder if they'll waive the interest.
Next year will be much better because the administration plans to cut 40% of the IRS workforce. Of course, they intend to make up for this loss of manpower by improving efficiency and adding automation. They actually have no plan for that, but I'm sure they'll come up with one and implement it before next tax season. Aren't you sure?

 
Next year will be much better because the administration plans to cut 40% of the IRS workforce. Of course, they intend to make up for this loss of manpower by improving efficiency and adding automation. They actually have no plan for that, but I'm sure they'll come up with one and implement it before next tax season. Aren't you sure?

Guarantee you will see no difference next year. . What did Twitter cut. 65 percent. I would bet my life you could cut 40 percent of the fed gov and see no difference if done properly.

Many companies too
 
Guarantee you will see no difference next year. . What did Twitter cut. 65 percent. I would bet my life you could cut 40 percent of the fed gov and see no difference if done properly.

Many companies too

Dude the fkn payment website doesn't even work on tax day. Basic shit. Been using same site for payments for at least a decade without issue, until now.
 
Dude the fkn payment website doesn't even work on tax day. Basic shit. Been using same site for payments for at least a decade without issue, until now.
That has nothing to do with cutting staff. That’s shit management. Chainsaw approach
 
Dude the fkn payment website doesn't even work on tax day. Basic shit. Been using same site for payments for at least a decade without issue, until now.
I’ll say the same thing with the nonprofits. You could cut 40 percent of the programs and staff there too for most of them. Outcomes would be no different
 
That has nothing to do with cutting staff. That’s shit management. Chainsaw approach

Tax gap $700B... Every year before this. Going to balloon even higher.

This is certainly extreme... And don't expect a drop this big but still.

 
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Dude the fkn payment website doesn't even work on tax day. Basic shit. Been using same site for payments for at least a decade without issue, until now.
Gov is inherently flawed. As is nonprofits. It’s self defeating to fix anything. To cure anything. First thing you learned in an mpa program is they never ask for less money. Remedy anything they don’t have jobs.
 
Tax gap $700B... Every year before this. Going to balloon even higher.

This is certainly extreme... And don't expect a drop this big but still.

As crazed said reform it. Upgrade tech. Less gov.
 
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